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The Collapse of Public Pension Funds Is No Longer a Distant Prospect
Bloomberg | April 18, 2018 | Aaaron Brown

Posted on 04/18/2018 5:52:35 AM PDT by reaganaut1

No excerpt allowed from Bloomberg, story here


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: publicpensions
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Brown's point is that in New Jersey and other states, pension funds could be down to zero assets in 5-10 years. Actuarial solvency can be ignored for a long time, but this cannot. Around the country, Democratic politicians would rather demonize Trump than deal with their fiscal problems.
1 posted on 04/18/2018 5:52:35 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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Same thing happened to Soviet Union pensioners after the inevitable collapse of their country. Funny how that works out.


2 posted on 04/18/2018 5:54:54 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: reaganaut1

These pensions should be a 401k style belonging to the individual.


3 posted on 04/18/2018 5:55:31 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: reaganaut1

That day has arrived here in Illinois. But absolutely no politician dares say it out loud.

L


4 posted on 04/18/2018 5:57:16 AM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: txrefugee

This will not be pretty when it hits critical mass.


5 posted on 04/18/2018 5:57:21 AM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm using my wife's account.)
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To: reaganaut1

The worst fear I have is that the property owners of the state will have to foot the bill that the corrupt politicians have incurred.

That could start a real revolution, and it’s scary.


6 posted on 04/18/2018 5:58:16 AM PDT by budj (combat vet, 2nd of 3 generations)
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I am actually tickled about the prospect of California’s bloated pensions going bust, because it’s the only surefire way to rid this state of the RAT Party. I just hope I’n still here to see it happen.


7 posted on 04/18/2018 5:58:32 AM PDT by vette6387
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"The voters in these states have refused for decades to pay the full costs of the services they were already enjoying

Well that settles it then, and all this time I thought it was from the Fraudulent Contracts the Unions negotiated with the politicians they were bribing.
8 posted on 04/18/2018 6:00:42 AM PDT by eyeamok (Tolerance: The virtue of having a belief in Nothing!)
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Its a self correcting issue... few are acknowledging in 5 years statistically
huge number of boomers will be at room temperature

Cemeteries are filled with people who thought they were irreplaceable...


9 posted on 04/18/2018 6:01:09 AM PDT by Article10 (Roger That)
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Here in Kentucky, Bevin is dealing with it, starting with teachers. He is getting a lot of grief and to a lot of people I know he as become the devil incarnate.

In fact, the situation here is a microcosm of why I’ve said, for decades, that we are in this ride all the way to the bottom for the simple reason that any politician that actually tries to make the hard decisions will be tarred and feathered or, at the very least, a one termer.

That is why I lay the blame for our fiscal situation squarely at the feet of the voters.

And when we hit bottom it’s gonna hurt. A lot. It will be epic when the most powerful and interdependent civilization (i.e. it’s not just the US) ever to grace this planet collapses.


10 posted on 04/18/2018 6:01:09 AM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm using my wife's account.)
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I think inside that 2000+ page, $1.3 trillion omnibus bill that nobody read or understood before voting for it or signing it was a provision to form a committee to see what can be done about the pension issue.

In other words, do what the politicians do best - form a ‘Blue Ribbon’ panel (so they can deflect the blame away from the Congress/states) to recommend the Fed print another several trillion and bail out the states and the unions.

Accountability is only for the little people.


11 posted on 04/18/2018 6:02:39 AM PDT by Paulie (America without Christ is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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You make a good point. The buck stops with the electorate.


12 posted on 04/18/2018 6:06:15 AM PDT by Paulie (America without Christ is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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CalPERS is on death watch.


13 posted on 04/18/2018 6:09:33 AM PDT by ptsal ( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
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I think that is why our government is basically anti-home-schooling. They can’t control what they think. It’s why Obama would not give that German home schooling family political asylum. It would send the message that our FedGov supports home schooling. That message is simply unacceptable to the planners, so there was no way he could give them asylum.


14 posted on 04/18/2018 6:10:27 AM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm using my wife's account.)
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To: txrefugee

Same thing happened to Soviet Union pensioners after the inevitable collapse of their country. Funny how that works out.


I like genius (Mr. “Make the Banks Pay”) in the article’s picture. Typical Union mindset. They think $$ grows on trees and its just a matter of getting the right people to pay for his retirement. I hope he ends up as one of the RV nomads, working in some Amazon.com Warehouse, in his dotage.


15 posted on 04/18/2018 6:23:03 AM PDT by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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To: eyeamok

I think your analysis is more correct...”Fraudulent contracts....”


16 posted on 04/18/2018 6:29:56 AM PDT by PsyCon
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To: reaganaut1

More quantitative easing... govt devaluation if the dollar... print a new currency... govt demand we (Racist) citizens have only cashless (voter registration) society.


17 posted on 04/18/2018 6:32:52 AM PDT by Jumper
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They’re already depleted for the most part, now they’re just living hand to mouth and robbing peter to pay pauline.


18 posted on 04/18/2018 6:34:32 AM PDT by Fhios (Mr. Magoo, where are you?)
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It is wise to remember that politics is the art of the possible.

It is possible to trounce Trump

It is not possible to alter the pension problem in a meaningful way

Demonizing Trump is a visible excuse for the impossibility of action on the pensions


19 posted on 04/18/2018 6:40:01 AM PDT by bert (RE)
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To: All

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20 posted on 04/18/2018 6:43:47 AM PDT by Liz ((Our side has 8 trillion bullets;the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.))
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