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MARCH 17: US training militants for false flag chemical attack as basis for airstrikes
RT / Youtube ^ | Mar 17, 2018 | RT

Posted on 04/16/2018 8:30:00 AM PDT by WisconsinRep

Posted on Drudge Report

US training Syria militants for false flag chemical attack as basis for airstrikes – Russian MoD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmYCgK2zHCI


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Russia; Syria
KEYWORDS: assad; chemicalattack; falseflag; russiantroll; syria
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To: Hawthorn
In fact, lots of us don’t it.

It's such an all encompassing term, I can't say with certainty that I don't don't it even if just on occasion. I know I don't start my day wondering if I can get away with a don't it but if I should don't it and it offends, which they do sometimes, I apologize. If cast in terms like 'Don't it for God and Country' I'm all in.

21 posted on 04/16/2018 9:32:29 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Apparently I voted demoncrat for 40 years. They all wore 'R' jerseys! 'R'atpublicans!)
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To: WisconsinRep

Not even worth a click without proof.


22 posted on 04/16/2018 9:35:00 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: BlackbirdSST

Russia is sticking by their story.

RT - April 16, 2018

Moscow has ‘irrefutable’ evidence chem attack in Syria’s Douma was staged – Russia’s envoy to OPCW
https://www.rt.com/news/424280-russia-evidence-chemical-attack-staged/


23 posted on 04/16/2018 9:35:32 AM PDT by WisconsinRep
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To: WisconsinRep

Its getting to the point where I don’t believe anyone.

That is a sad commentary on events, isn’t it?


24 posted on 04/16/2018 9:37:35 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Vermont Lt
That is one of the goals of the Left...to make people doubt everything. Because...

When nothing can be trusted...ANYTHING can be trusted.

25 posted on 04/16/2018 9:40:52 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: Vermont Lt

You shouldn’t believe anyone, you should ask for proof.


26 posted on 04/16/2018 9:41:53 AM PDT by WisconsinRep
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To: WisconsinRep

good lord, man, RT is a russian propaganda outfit, pure and simple ... so you’re basically helping the russians by posting their propaganda here ...


27 posted on 04/16/2018 9:43:53 AM PDT by catnipman ( Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: WisconsinRep

You believe things from the Middle East while you have seen all the crimes of the Clinton Foundation. You are lied to in a grand scale.


28 posted on 04/16/2018 9:44:04 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: catnipman
I posted this from the Drudge Report.

I guess Drudge Report is helping the Russians too.


29 posted on 04/16/2018 9:46:51 AM PDT by WisconsinRep
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To: Robert DeLong

“And you view Russia Today as an honest news outlet?”

Apparently he does. He just became a puppet of Vlad.


30 posted on 04/16/2018 9:54:34 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Robert DeLong

And you view Russia Today as an honest news outlet?
**************
One way to find out— let’s have the open evidentiary hearing before an impartial tribunal that we never had before we attacked. The Russians can bring their evidence, and we can bring ours. What are we afraid of? That Trump might be wrong about who our real enemies are?


31 posted on 04/16/2018 10:01:00 AM PDT by Socon-Econ
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To: rlmorel

The entire process for going to war should take a lot more proof. It would be nice to see a process where the data could be examined. Since there is no national interest at play, we had no reason to bomb that quickly.

My personal bugaboo is that I can think of NO logical reason for Al Assad to gas these people. There was nothing to gain, and lots to lose.

I am not taking his side. Nor the Russian side. But I cannot see an upside for Assasd or the Russians from these bombings.


32 posted on 04/16/2018 10:06:35 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: bmwcyle
Russia Today vs. the American and British MSM is the modern equivalent of Pravda and Izvestia of the USSR vs. Der Stürmer and Völkischer Beobachter of Nazi Germany. In the 2010s as in the 1930s, both competing media services represent the propaganda of authoritarian, collectivist political power. Many paleo-conservatives and libertarians have accepted the Russian narrative without skepticism, while neo-conservatives and leftists have swallowed the MSM narrative as gospel truth. The truth is out there, but it hidden in the fog of war and propaganda.
33 posted on 04/16/2018 10:14:31 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Vermont Lt

Your mistake is in thinking that Syria or Russia act rationally.

Gen. Mattis stated he saw conclusive evidence that Syria used chemical weapons and Russia assisted.

I trust Mattis.


34 posted on 04/16/2018 10:14:38 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Reagan conservative: All 3 Pillars)
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To: Vermont Lt
p17
35 posted on 04/16/2018 10:16:15 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Hawthorn

LOL!

I still have yet to find that elusive post edit button here on FR

I can’t that either


36 posted on 04/16/2018 10:17:51 AM PDT by z3n
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To: Robert DeLong; WisconsinRep
And you view Russia Today as an honest news outlet?

He signed up here on FR only five months ago and while some of his older posts seem conservative he has been posting a lot this kind of garbage, from mostly foreign propaganda sites, since we struck Syria.

Given his handle I asked him if he was Paul Ryan or another of the Democrat Wisconsin Representatives in the US House or if he was one of the members of the Wisconsin House but all he did was try to deflect the question.

I have surmised he, in all likelihood, is a paid plant or has planted himself here to flood FR with this crud to sow as much anti Trump dissension as possible. We only have a few months before the elections and this stuff is part of the Dems MO to suppress Trump's voter base.

37 posted on 04/16/2018 10:28:04 AM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: Wallace T.

There is no television or radio news left. It is all controlled and lies weaved with half truth.


38 posted on 04/16/2018 10:35:19 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Vermont Lt

I agree completely, but I do realize I am not privy to the whole dataset they look at.

I mean, let’s face it. Giving the minimum we know, they know the date this happened. There are probably satellites up the ying yang doing imaging of Syria 24x7. We know the level of surveillance possible with satellites...drones...you name it.

I will be the first to say that I have no idea who to back in many areas of the Middle East, and as a result, I don’t feel we should be “backing” anyone unless it is completely clear. We did the right thing, AFAIC, in Iraq. We could have marched in there and taken the oil, the country, whatever we wanted, but we didn’t. We tried to do the right thing and got shat upon for it.

The only thing involved here is chemical weapons that makes it different. (I for one, am of the belief that these weapons and possibly equipment to manufacture were taken by Saddam Hussein in Iraq to Assad.)

If not for the use of these weapons, I wouldn’t like doing it, but I think taking a hands-off approach and watching these people killing each other off (a la Iran-Iraq war) is an option we would consider...it is a civil war.

As for an upside, isn’t that area a small holdout in a largely Syrian government held area? I would just starve them out, but...perhaps that isn’t an option for them. I don’t have to go far to imagine Assad needing to rid himself of a thorn in his side. (without rooting for that scumbag who was responsible for thousands of American deaths)


39 posted on 04/16/2018 10:47:39 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: bmwcyle
I put some stock in OAN, though I haven't looked at their Syrian bombing coverage. Many paleo-conservative and libertarian websites, such as InfoWars and Lew Rockwell, are too uncritical of the RT-type narrative. I understand Alex Jones was channeling Glenn Beck, crying and whining on his broadcast. OTOH, Fox News (except Laura Ingraham and Tucker Carlson) and many semi-conservative talkers like Hugh Hewett are buying the MSM/Deep State line.
40 posted on 04/16/2018 11:49:09 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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