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Syria 'chemical attack': Russia and US in fierce row
BBC News ^ | 4/9/2018 | BBC

Posted on 04/09/2018 4:22:14 PM PDT by Nextrush

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To: GoldenState_Rose

She’s a real Christian? She wants to bomb Syrian Christians at the behest of head-chopping Jaish al Islam.


41 posted on 04/09/2018 6:10:20 PM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: cradle of freedom

I agree with your take on this Syria chemical attack, totally on target, imho.


42 posted on 04/09/2018 6:13:08 PM PDT by Ambrosia (Southern Born/Bred..NC. Lived in: NC, PA, NY, WV, NM, SC, FL)
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To: MeganC

If you are concerned, you should ask Putin. He is the one wanting war.

Even under Trump, Russian media has worse things to say about USA than they do about ISIS terrorists. You should also listen to Putin’s speeches. English transcripts are available online. He goes on and on about the Soviet collapse, what a disaster for the world it was, how arrogant the West is. This is in 2018 by the way.

Very little time is spent attacking “threats” to world security like: Islamic terrorism or North Korea. (Who is an ally of Russia.)

Putin has cemented the most anti-Semitic coalition/axis sinxe the end of WWII. Quite a feat!

Iran-Syria-Turkey-Russia.


43 posted on 04/09/2018 6:14:43 PM PDT by GoldenState_Rose
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To: Trumpisourlastchance

Yes she is. It is perfectly fine to have policy disagreements. She didn’t even vote for Trump in the primaries.

But some people here are also blaming her for bringing down the whole southern Confederacy?

I would caution against applying such noxious rhetoric against a daughter of Christ. Especially one who has uplifted the level of U.N. dialogue and accountability the way she has.

Ambassador Haley is the mouthpiece God chose to declare Jerusalem as Israel’s capital. Such a special moment in world history. It took a lot of hutzpah and bravery on the part of the Trump admin to do that. And it is the decision thst believe it or not, will really put the region on the path to peace and ground the world order.

If you look at most European world maps before modern era: Jerusalem was always the center. :)


44 posted on 04/09/2018 6:23:00 PM PDT by GoldenState_Rose
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To: GoldenState_Rose

Let Europe deal with it.


45 posted on 04/09/2018 6:27:25 PM PDT by cradle of freedom
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To: cradle of freedom
Let Europe deal with it.

If there is anything the Russians understand, it is: America is the leader of Western Civilization. (Western Civ is who they believe they are at war against, not radical Islam. Syria is just another front.)

We may not be perfect, but Europe is rudderless without the U.S...as recent history shows. The West needs strong leadership and we have been blessed with Trump.

46 posted on 04/09/2018 6:34:30 PM PDT by GoldenState_Rose
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To: GoldenState_Rose

We may not be perfect, but Europe is rudderless without the U.S...as recent history shows. The West needs strong leadership and we have been blessed with Trump.

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If Present-day Europe is “Western Civilization”, then they can prove their mettle by defending themselves. Collectively they easily have the resources. We are NOT the world’s (or even our own hemisphere’s) policeman.


47 posted on 04/09/2018 6:52:53 PM PDT by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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“Western Civ is who [the Russians] believe they are at war against,”

I think that this is an overstatement that misses the point. The Russians view the Western Establishment as their enemy, the Soros crowd, the people who are telling Russia how it should be governed, that it must allow gay rights, that there must be unlimited immigration, that national cultures do not matter. I do not think Russia views the Visegrad countries (Poland, Slovakia, Hungary) as its true enemies. And what is this Western Civilization you speak of? If you spend any time in the UK, Scandinavia, Germany, the Low Countries, France... you would be amazed at how secular they are and how hostile to Christianity they are. They have abandoned Western Civiliazation and it is what they have allowed in its place that the remenants of Western Civilization must be opposed to, as must Russia.

48 posted on 04/09/2018 6:58:46 PM PDT by Stingray51
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I understand, but that would leave a vacuum and you are sorely misguided if you think Russia won’t want fill it. They are already trying. It of course wants to be the new “policeman.”

(Which would be awful especially if you grasp what a Russian concept of “police” means even in its most basic sense.)

Or that China won’t fill the economic vacuum — which is why it’s great a trade war has started.

We should not fight pointless wars, but the world is a very dangerous place when USA takes a backseat. Someone is always willing to replace us out front. And its usually someone bad.

North Korea de-nuclearization talks? Fat chance in a world without Trump.


49 posted on 04/09/2018 7:03:28 PM PDT by GoldenState_Rose
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To: Nextrush

Nikki Haley: best Ambassador to the U.N. we’ve ever had! The DIA, the FBI, the State Department and the CIA should follow her example and ignore the complaints from Russians discussing Russia, Syria, Iran and North Korea here.


50 posted on 04/09/2018 7:09:04 PM PDT by familyop
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To: Stingray51

The E.U. is by design and practice “Soviet Union lite.” The org was put together by atheist Marxist-Lenin sympathizing folks West of the Berlin Wall.

There is a “real Europe” and each country recovers its soul one “Brexit” at a time. Not an overnight process by any means.

Ironically it’s Soviet nostalgic Russia acting the way it is that is helping the West recover some of its moral/spiritual backbone and unity again.

Sent you more thoughts via private message.


51 posted on 04/09/2018 7:37:52 PM PDT by GoldenState_Rose
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To: Nextrush

52 posted on 04/09/2018 7:39:18 PM PDT by McGruff (Protect our border not Syria's.)
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To: GoldenState_Rose

I agree with all of that except that “Real Europe” will never return absent a return of Christianity. That is unlikely to happen with the Catholic Church in Europe in such a pitiful state. European movements about sovereignty and nationalism are all well and good but they will not amount to much in a godless vacuum. Of course, nature disfavors vacuums and what grows in post-Christian secular environment but the certainty and anti-secularism of Islam.


53 posted on 04/09/2018 7:53:44 PM PDT by Stingray51
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Brexit would not have happened if it weren’t for the quiet resurgence and hunger for faith and Christian tradition merged with national tradition — much of which you will see on physical display in the upcoming Royal Wedding.

Royal Weddings and African expat parishioners have literally saved the Church of England.


54 posted on 04/09/2018 8:31:56 PM PDT by GoldenState_Rose
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We’ve been played by sinister forces with regards to Syria, Libya and probably Iraq as well. Since everything we do in that region is wrong-headed, it’s probably better to do nothing and let the chips fall where they may, why waste our treasure on a dysfunctional region that hates the west and in particular hates America?

Assad has no logical reason to launch chemical attacks every time he makes gains in the civil war. So who does have a logical reason to stage them? Whoever is losing.

Putin gets blamed for everything by globalists because they don’t like his independent frame of mind. That doesn’t excuse some of his actions, but if it comes to a choice between Putin and globalism, I’d rather take my chances with Putin, since globalism has the destruction of western civilization as its primary objective. I don’t think Putin wants a lot more than to make Russia great again, that does not necessarily have to be through destroying anyone else.

Our media and political elites need to be confronted about this seedy tactic of pushing make believe news stories as though they were fully researched fact — they are nothing more than speculation and any real journalist would want to find out what really happened as opposed to what we are being told might have happened.


55 posted on 04/09/2018 8:44:14 PM PDT by Peter ODonnell (The president is a good man -- that's why they are out to get him -- where have we seen this before?)
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To: GoldenState_Rose

Fire is from God ultimately because God is sometimes described as fire.

The Russian Orthodox Easter Mass last Saturday night that Putin attended includes fire brought from Jerusalem to be part of the service.


56 posted on 04/09/2018 11:17:24 PM PDT by Nextrush (Freedom is everybody's business: Remember Pastor Niemoller)
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To: Nextrush

All this, just to disprove collusion?/s


57 posted on 04/10/2018 4:31:11 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Nextrush

Spirit of the antichrist at work in the Bolshevik Pharisees indeed.

Under Putin, Lenin’s body still lies in open wait at mausoleum in center of Red Square.

And only a few weeks ago did he say:
“Communism is like Christianity and Lenin a Saint”

https://www.christiantoday.com/article/putin-says-communism-is-like-christianity-and-lenin-is-like-a-saint/123646.htm


58 posted on 04/10/2018 4:42:48 AM PDT by GoldenState_Rose
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To: Eleutheria5

Watch out. I sense the warfare overseas will provide cover for some actions involving a shut down of the special prosecutor and cleaning of the house at the DOJ.


59 posted on 04/10/2018 4:59:37 AM PDT by Nextrush (Freedom is everybody's business: Remember Pastor Niemoller)
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To: GoldenState_Rose

The Communists were the main opposition party in the recent presidential election.

Putin ran as an independent.


60 posted on 04/10/2018 5:01:19 AM PDT by Nextrush (Freedom is everybody's business: Remember Pastor Niemoller)
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