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Hawkins: Parkland Gun Control Activists Driving Americans Toward 2nd Amendment
Breitbart ^ | 3-28-2018 | AWR HAWKINS

Posted on 03/29/2018 3:39:49 AM PDT by servo1969

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To: maddog55

History Channel had an interesting series on last night called “The Men Who Made America.”

One of the segments was about Davy Crockett moving to Texas and the beginning of Texans rebelling against Mexican rule.

Presidente Santa Anna responded by sending troops to confiscate Texan’s weapons.

Remember the Alamo!

Hmmm...years later the Clinton/Reno government did the same thing at Waco.


21 posted on 03/29/2018 5:05:30 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: equaviator; servo1969; All

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How do they figure that they can succeed at getting illegal aliens to give up their illegal firearms?
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Govt can’t keep ‘contraband’ out of PRISONS for F* sake, what are they going to do w/ some piping, nails and time from the local Home Depot or Mr. Garage w/ a shop full of equipment and a few blocks of aluminum and steel?

What, there’s not enough info on YouTube alone to how to fabricate, smith, load, etc. that makes nearly any ‘law’ useless??

They must think otherwise ‘law-abiding’ citizens AREN’T arming themselves in these gun-grabbing enclaves, if they feel it necessary?? (Better ask forgiveness...) R-I-G-H-T.


22 posted on 03/29/2018 5:12:48 AM PDT by i_robot73 (One could not count the number of *solutions*, if only govt followed\enforced the Constitution.)
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To: servo1969

23 posted on 03/29/2018 5:13:05 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>https://i.imgur.com/zXSEP5Z.gif)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

That’s spokesPERSON, you sexist jerk!

;^)


24 posted on 03/29/2018 5:42:57 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: grobdriver

I joined the NRA 2 weeks ago, for the first time.

The Hitler Youth kids need a serious wuppin. Just saying.


25 posted on 03/29/2018 5:43:45 AM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Trump has implemented Supply Side Economics!!!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

This is what an America-hating, snowflake slut looks like. If she wants to be a Cuban communist, ICE needs to make sure she gets a ticket back to her beloved Cuba. The same place her refugee parents escaped from communism back in 1968. It’s a good thing she shaved her head. She needs to get a little more sunlight and oxygen to her brain. When America want a little Cuban sexual deviant to “change the world”, we’ll let her know.


26 posted on 03/29/2018 6:08:50 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (#NotARussianBot)
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To: servo1969

NRA contributions TRIPLED!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/nra-donations-tripled-after-parkland-florida-shooting/ar-BBKPitI


27 posted on 03/29/2018 6:22:57 AM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: N. Theknow

From the Texas Declaration of Independence from Mexico...

“It has demanded us to deliver up our arms, which are essential to our defence, the rightful property of freemen, and formidable only to tyrannical governments.”

British General GAGE in Boston did the same thing.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1995/05/31/when-the-redcoats-confiscated-guns/e38d0810-af85-4949-8d93-3da746601e65/?utm_term=.b82cbec0768e


28 posted on 03/29/2018 6:43:45 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Road Warrior ‘04

I want to know how much their membership increased


29 posted on 03/29/2018 7:29:40 AM PDT by moovova
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To: equaviator

In all fairness, the great majority of illegal aliens still want firearms for the same reason citizens do, to protect themselves from violent criminals. On a similar note, non-violent ex-con former felons can sometimes petition for rights restoration in court, and the number one thing they want back is the right to have guns.

So the lesson from this is that a lot of people understand the vital importance of the 2nd Amendment, and if given the option would be more than happy to embrace it.


30 posted on 03/29/2018 8:01:40 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Liberals have become moralistic, dogmatic, sententious, self-righteous, pinch-faced prudes.)
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There isn't going to be any confiscation of guns or repeal of the 2nd Amendment to come out of all this hyperbolic rhetoric and marching by the progressive Left and their "kids".

The Left always does this. They overreact and go over the top on every issue they touch. Sane people start tuning the gun-grabbers out.

Not only is the actual process of repealing the 2nd Amendment and confiscation guns very complicated and involved, but for practical matters, neither will ever happen.

Just as Obama was awarded the best salesmen of guns during his two terms, the Hogg kid and his cohorts will accomplish the same thing. The rest of the country moves away from them and towards guns and the 2nd Amendment.

These people do not understand "real" Americans.

31 posted on 03/29/2018 8:03:46 AM PDT by HotHunt
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To: guardian_of_liberty

I signed up me an my wife last week.
Three year membership.


32 posted on 03/29/2018 8:39:18 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Come and take it.


33 posted on 03/29/2018 8:40:01 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: servo1969
Title corrected for accuracy:

Parkland Gun Control Brownshirts, Fascists and Communists Driving Americans Toward the 2nd Ammendment.

34 posted on 03/29/2018 10:25:52 AM PDT by Jmouse007 (Lord God Almighty, deliver us from this evil in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, amen.)
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To: HotHunt

That’s the point, let the left rant and rave about guns and it always backfires on them. Our immediate goal is to maintain the House and Senate.


35 posted on 03/29/2018 10:32:27 AM PDT by kenmcg (tHE WHOLE)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

NO ILLEGAL FIREARMS FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS!


36 posted on 03/29/2018 12:24:53 PM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: servo1969

From the periodical NRA mail, it appears that the NRA appreciates donations as small as $10, although a twenty would seem to be easy enough for most people. The NRA also sometimes sends an offer for a discounted fee for another year’s membership for members (e.g., $19.95 for another year). Currently, for new members, the NRA is offering freebies including a nice mini-duffel bag (looks like a good travel bag), a magazine subscription and a few other goodies.


37 posted on 03/29/2018 1:54:46 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: equaviator

Well, yes and no.

There have been several court decisions dating back more than a century that outline the rights of illegal aliens. They have freedom of speech and religion, and if arrested, a right to a Miranda warning. The Fifth Amendment, as well as the Fourteenth Amendment protects everyone from deprivation of life, liberty or property without due process of law.

U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 1982 that non-citizen children must get a free K-12 education. However, illegal aliens can’t vote in state and national elections. While defendants in criminal proceedings have a Sixth Amendment right to a government-appointed attorney if they are poor, that right doesn’t extend to immigration court, where the violations are considered civil and not criminal.

To summarize: The courts say that illegal aliens are covered by the 1st Amendment, (ignore the 3rd-quartering of soldiers), the 4th, 5th, and part of the 6th, the 7th and 8th. And importantly, the 14th.

Yet they have *never* said that the 2nd Amendment applies to them. But this may change, like many of the others, because of the 14th Amendment.

In McDonald v. City of Chicago, justice Clarence Thomas wrote one of the most amazing concurrent opinions ever, not relying on the 2nd Amendment itself, but on the extremely powerful “Privileges or Immunities Clause” of the 14th Amendment to back the 2nd Amendment. His opinion was brilliant, very carefully documented, and utterly bulletproof.

And this raises the point: why should otherwise law abiding illegal aliens get all these other rights, but not the right to bear arms?

Which goes back to my original post, that the vast majority of illegal aliens are *not* violent criminals, and the reason they want guns is like everyone else, to protect themselves *against* violent criminals.

But if they are not violent criminals or felons, and have all the other “natural rights endowed by the Creator”, as far as the courts are concerned, why shouldn’t they have armed self defense?

As this stands, unless keeping them disarmed has a really good argument, as with criminal felons, it is just another form of gun control. So is it necessary?


38 posted on 03/29/2018 6:48:45 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Liberals have become moralistic, dogmatic, sententious, self-righteous, pinch-faced prudes.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
"if they are not violent criminals or felons, and have all the other “natural rights endowed by the Creator”, as far as the courts are concerned, why shouldn’t they have armed self defense?"

They currently don't have those rights as illegal aliens in the United States and if/when the SCOTUS comes down on it they should be looking at aspects of technical correctness according to the Constitution and the rule of law rather than political correctness. As a conservative, I'm against changing and/or adding laws to accommodate illegal aliens. For one thing, how do we know what violent crimes they have or haven't committed in the countries they come from?
39 posted on 03/30/2018 10:36:27 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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40 posted on 03/30/2018 12:44:29 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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