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Houston officer kills unarmed man walking with trousers down
BBC News ^ | 28th March 2018 | BBC News

Posted on 03/28/2018 2:26:40 PM PDT by Ennis85

A US police officer shot dead an unarmed man walking in traffic with his trousers down, and his family says it looks like "premeditated murder".

Police dashcam video shows Danny Ray Thomas, 34, walking towards the officer on a road in Houston, Texas, last Thursday before a gunshot rings out.

Deputy Cameron Brewer repeatedly shouts "get down on the ground" before firing. Both the officer and victim are black.

Mr Thomas' family say he suffered from depression after his children died.

His sister, Kita Thomas-Smith, attended a Houston City Council meeting on Tuesday where she tearfully urged politicians do to something about "police brutality".

Mayor Sylvester Turner told her: "I certainly feel your pain. We are certainly sorry for any life that is taken."

Outside city hall, Ms Thomas-Smith told the Houston Chronicle of the dashcam video. "It feels like premeditated murder.

"He was clearly walking, not running, toward the deputy not trying to hurt or harm him."

Deputy Brewer, who had a Taser with him, has been placed on administrative leave as police investigate the shooting.

Houston Police Department said in a statement last week that Mr Thomas was found "walking in the middle of the intersection" of a busy road in the city.

Deputy Brewer noticed him with "his pants around his ankles, talking to himself and hitting vehicles as they passed by".

"Thomas then struck a white vehicle, and the driver exited and engaged in a physical altercation with the suspect," Houston police said.

The Harris County Sheriff's deputy saw the fracas and stopped his car to intervene.

"Fearing for his safety, the deputy discharged his duty weapon, striking Thomas once in the chest," said Houston police, which is leading the investigation.

In a different video taken by a bystander and published by the Chronicle last week,

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: death; houston; police; shooting
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To: ChuteTheMall
"I didn’t know Danny Thomas was black."

Well, he was Lebanese.

21 posted on 03/28/2018 2:42:23 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Ennis85

Let’s see if this shooting passes my personal litmus test.

Say one of our soldiers, serving in a war zone (Iraq lets say), finds an incoherent unarmed Iraqi, pants around the ankles, middle of an intersection, messing with cars going by. By our current ROE, can he shoot him?

Why oh why, are the current police ROE less than those of our men and women serving in theatres of war? Police officers deal with American citizens, military deals with potential enemy combatants. Shouldn’t our police officers be held to a tighter ROE than our military, especially considering they are dealing with American citizens?


22 posted on 03/28/2018 2:45:31 PM PDT by walkingdead (It's easy, you just don't lead 'em as much....)
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To: Ennis85

Suicide by cop.


23 posted on 03/28/2018 2:46:27 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

I think the police training is poor. This didnt happen in the 70s. But then you didnt have all out assassins murdering random police like we see today.


24 posted on 03/28/2018 2:46:50 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (What profits a man if he gains the world yet loses his soul?)
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To: sargon
And therefore, he deserved to be shot dead—unarmed and making NO threatening moves?

So you figure anybody ought to be free to disregard what the
cops say? That's retarded. Obey the cops, don't get shot.

It's not that hard.

25 posted on 03/28/2018 2:47:25 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Secret Agent Man
What the hell was his family doing for him?

Should they have kept him chained up in the basement?

26 posted on 03/28/2018 2:48:25 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Ennis85

Why was the officer walking with his pants down?


27 posted on 03/28/2018 2:48:34 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (robert mueller is an unguided missile)
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To: Pravious; All

So he deserves to be summarily shot dead? Used to be a country I still remember, when the cop would have gone up, swiped him upside the head, and said: “What the hell is wrong with you?!”

Had a case at a store near us, where some woman preparing food samples lost it for reasons what will forever remain unknown. She waved this little paring knife around. Cops came in and shot her stone-cold dead. She never actually hurt anyone.


28 posted on 03/28/2018 2:49:34 PM PDT by tjd1454 (L))
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To: Ennis85

Breaking News
Riots at Six


29 posted on 03/28/2018 2:54:12 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: Ennis85

I also gotta wonder why he didn’t use the taser first.

It’s certainly not premeditated murder but it’s possible manslaughter. It’s obvious the officer was in fear of his life and, that alone, falls back upon who’s doing the hiring and training of the police in Houston. Whoever is doing the job is doing it poorly.


30 posted on 03/28/2018 2:55:24 PM PDT by Skywise
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To: WayneS
Is open carry even legal in Texas?

Yes, but in a shoulder or belt holster.

31 posted on 03/28/2018 2:55:24 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: sargon

You mean like this guy?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Daniel_Shaver

It’s a shame that when I was an irresponsible teen doing stupid shit I didn’t have to be afraid of the cops, now as a responsible clean cut adult they scare hell out of me.


32 posted on 03/28/2018 2:56:19 PM PDT by Manuel OKelley
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To: PGR88
The cop should not expect a rational response from a clearly irrational person walking through traffic with his pants down.

And shooting him was a rational response to that?

33 posted on 03/28/2018 2:57:21 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Ennis85

hand up, don’t’ shoot
pants down, don’t shoot

Wait, what


34 posted on 03/28/2018 2:57:28 PM PDT by Godzilla ( I just love the smell of COVFEFE in the morning . . . . .)
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To: sargon

Hear hear - and yet there are some on this forum who take the view that cops can do no wrong.


35 posted on 03/28/2018 2:59:01 PM PDT by tjd1454 (L))
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To: humblegunner

I think of pants down as a friendly gesture. Am I old fashioned?


36 posted on 03/28/2018 3:02:53 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine ("Married with children.")
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To: humblegunner
So you figure anybody ought to be free to disregard what the cops say?

It used to be that the use of deadly force required that the life and safety of the officer or of bystanders be at risk. Now you're saying ignoring a cop is grounds for deadly force? What's next? Execution for dirty looks?

37 posted on 03/28/2018 3:03:48 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Pravious

He was also clearly disobeying repeated commands to lay down on the ground.


If he had merely stood still or even walked away from the cop, there would have been no reason to shoot. Walking towards the cop is clearly aggressive. Still, the cop should have used the taser first.


38 posted on 03/28/2018 3:04:09 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Ennis85

He must have been a heck of a shot, walking with his pants down and still hits his target.


39 posted on 03/28/2018 3:04:43 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (President Trump divides Americans . . . from anti-Americans.)
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To: Ennis85

He was beating Cadillacs and Subarus and he won’t stop....


40 posted on 03/28/2018 3:04:58 PM PDT by VietVet876
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