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Rescission of Budget Items (1974 Statute)
Congressional_Budget_and_Impoundment_Control_Act_of_1974 ^ | 1974 | Congress

Posted on 03/24/2018 5:47:01 PM PDT by research99

Checking the Congressional Budget Act of 1974 (Public Law 93–344, 88 Stat. 297, 2 U.S.C. §§ 601–688) online:

Part B, Section 1011-1012 and related (identified elsewhere as Title X) within the Act (also known as the Impoundment Control Act of 1974), specifies that the President may request that Congress rescind appropriated funds.

The timeline for approval by both the house and senate is 45 days.


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KEYWORDS: budget; congress; omnibus; trump
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From a discussion started in another thread, there is a statutory authorization for a specific "rescission" of items approved in the Omnibus ("budget") bill.

Could this be a mechanism, for reversing some of the outrageous pork-barrel authorizations in last weeks' bill? Would a simple majority in Congress be able to pass a revision that would eliminate the worst of that spending?

Could we see a "Paul Ryan Act" within the next 45 days?

1 posted on 03/24/2018 5:47:02 PM PDT by research99
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To: research99

Or, more appropriately, a “Rand Paul Act of 2018”?


2 posted on 03/24/2018 5:48:38 PM PDT by research99
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To: research99
The President can request Congress to withdraw any of the appropriated funds.

But more importantly Congress is reneging on its promises. The President can call one or both houses of Congress into session and keep them in session until they give him the funds he wants for the wall. See Article 2, Section 3. That is in his power.

Drastic? Yes. But if he means it voters will respect it.

3 posted on 03/24/2018 5:54:46 PM PDT by Rapscallion (The tragedy of politics is that it can make good people hate each other.)
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To: research99

bump


4 posted on 03/24/2018 5:59:57 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: research99

Does this rule apply since the Omnibus Bill isn’t a Budget Bill.


5 posted on 03/24/2018 6:00:02 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: research99
MORE 4D CHESS! WHOO-HOO!


6 posted on 03/24/2018 6:06:03 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (If the illegal immigration issue were Social Security, it'd be privatized by now.)
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To: mass55th
Good question.

This topic arose from a discussion on a similar thread, where a knowledgeable poster responded to a question about process with a reference to the 1974 act.

Hopefully another poster (better informed than I) can provide a differentiation between "definitions" of omnibus vs. budget legislation.

7 posted on 03/24/2018 6:06:05 PM PDT by research99
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I could, but I and others have done so in other threads. There is no difference in the end between the omnibus (actually consolidated appropriations) and passing 12 appropriations bills separately.


8 posted on 03/24/2018 6:41:14 PM PDT by IndispensableDestiny
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To: IndispensableDestiny

Could you provide links, to those threads?


9 posted on 03/24/2018 6:48:02 PM PDT by research99
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To: mass55th

The omnibus bill covers only one third of what an actual Budget bill covers. We have not had a budget since April 29,2009


10 posted on 03/24/2018 6:59:13 PM PDT by hoosiermama (When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice.DJT)
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> The omnibus bill covers only one third of what an actual Budget bill covers. We have not had a budget since April 29,2009

I’ve seen discussed elsewhere the whole issue that an omnibus bill IS NOT a Constitutionally mandated budget appropriation, and therefore the rules that pertain to budget appropriations/authorizations (such as, the President must spend according to Congress’ appropriations) do not apply to the omnibus. As evidence, they cite that Obunga regularly violated his continuing resolution spending bills. I have no idea if the notion has merit.


11 posted on 03/24/2018 7:23:33 PM PDT by XEHRpa
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To: hoosiermama

It is supposedly somehow related to this,

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/text-letter-president-speaker-house-representatives-president-senate-21/

which some are saying is the President using emergency powers to redirect the spending of the omnibus. Again, I am not savvy enough to know if this is so.


12 posted on 03/24/2018 7:50:46 PM PDT by XEHRpa
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To: hoosiermama

I’ve also heard just the opposite of what I said in the prior post, so it will take a better understanding to make sense of it.


13 posted on 03/24/2018 7:52:53 PM PDT by XEHRpa
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I'm not up to speed on all of this, but as poster "LibertyOh" contributed on a similar thread:

"The 1974 act and subsequent amendments are codified in 2 USC Sections 601 through 688. I haven’t gone through in detail but it appears 683 and 684 provide the process for the President to request rescission by a “special message” and at least section 688 governs the expedited process for consideration in each house and committee. Debate and amendment rules appear quite strict. Appears everything is a majority vote. No threat of filibuster appears available."

So there appears to be an available mechanism for a selected retraction of spending items in the bill, but that presumes there will be actual political action to introduce "rescission" legislation.

More realistically, I hope it at the least leads to further discussion by political media.

14 posted on 03/24/2018 8:26:50 PM PDT by research99
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
Thanks research99.

15 posted on 03/25/2018 12:16:07 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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Rescission isn’t a new idea.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-weigant/rescission-could-be-a-bri_b_6188776.html


16 posted on 03/25/2018 8:41:47 AM PDT by research99
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To: Jim Robinson

Looks like budget rescission may now be in play.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3644662/posts


17 posted on 04/03/2018 4:56:52 PM PDT by research99
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McConnell says he isn’t opposed to a discussion

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3646452/posts


18 posted on 04/10/2018 1:32:57 PM PDT by research99
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Could this be a mechanism, for reversing some of the outrageous pork-barrel authorizations in last weeks' bill? Would a simple majority in Congress be able to pass a revision that would eliminate the worst of that spending?

A simple majority is all that is needed. But you would never get 50 votes in the Senate.

19 posted on 04/10/2018 1:37:53 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: research99

So far, “rescission” is an idea that hasn’t gone away.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3648272/posts


20 posted on 04/17/2018 3:19:34 PM PDT by research99
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