Are People Born Transgender?

townhall.com ^ | Mar 20, 2018 | Michael Brown

[beelzepug]

You’re in fast company. The Nuge had that! :o)

[Yaelle]

To understand epigenetics, the first step is to check out the pony embryos transferred to a horse’s uterus. Egg and sperm comes from ponies. The uterine environment, the blood, the fluids, come from a horse surrogate parent. The ponies are born bigger, and stay bigger.

Why does this happen? Simply, Lamarck was as correct as Darwin and died without getting full scientific credit. Genes determine many things about the organism, but genes can be swayed and influenced, mutated, if you want, by the environment. There are specific prenatal windows of time for the development of mammals. Gender, sex organs, neurological connections thereof, might be determined in a few days, even. The bath of amniotic fluid, the exchange of blood and fluid from the uterus owner (bio mother or not), will all play a part in how sexual function and identity are formed.

Epigenetics is strongest in the earliest life of a mammal. Thus before it is born. So while “transgender” is not written in that new person’s genetic code, it is evident that something went wrong in the exact prenatal environment for the week that the neurology of gender is solidified.

Something maybe some of you don’t know: in the early weeks of prenatal development, both genders have the same equipment. It sticks out like a penis. At a specific moment, this early sexual nub turns into either one of the two known genitalia. So just knowing that, you can imagine how something wrong “in the fluids” could really mess up that baby’s development.

So, yes, they can be “born with it’ but it wasn’t from the genes making up the embryo. And the genes who made up the original embryo, as you see, are not in stone.

[nobamanomore]

I’m an old farm kid who grew up with a dad that was very involved in breeding good horses, cattle, and dogs. From memory, if you are born with a trait that makes it impossible to have offspring, the trait would disappear rather quickly. The short answer then, is that if you were ‘born queer or transgendered’ there would be less of them every year, and in short order they would no longer exist.

[Varda]

That 1990’s “gay gene” story was an exercise in the power of propaganda. It changed the way the nation viewed homosexuality.

The actual study in Science was found to be flawed and was never replicated. This is how science works. If it had been replicated the “gay gene” people would have had a case in reality. They didn’t need reality, they had the MSM and an ignorant public in their back pocket.

BTW - these brain studies are useless. Human brains can be altered by behavior and environment. It’s not a static organ.

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[Chickensoup]

A childhood friend of the spouse, a male, had an appendectomy at age twelve or so, and ovaries were found and removed at that time. The family always wondered what would have happened if they had not been removed.

[Varda]

What you’re describing is a hermaphrodite which is the physical condition of having both male and female sex organs.
Transgenderism is people who have a different physical sex than what they want to think of themselves.

[Yaelle]

No, I’m not describing intersex, but I did confuse the issue adding the bit about the tight timeline for the formation of the genitalia. I said it poorly but I brought that part up only to prove that there are tiny windows for bio development. And if something isn’t right in the environment, how easy would it be for something to go wrong? Another reason to bring up the genitalia development is to show how all babies until that week are the same in gender but it has clearly been determined to have them divide into the two familiar genders. Since the brain is obviously part of gender identity, my guess is that some disconnect happens at that same time when the genders diverge physically.

[blueplum]

transsexual genes?

well, we probably have genes to become apes or fish. Doesn’t mean they are active or have any influence on the rest of the genes that make us human and male or female.

[Jim Noble]

Listen, this is all very, very simple: Aristotle or Descartes? They can't both be right about the nature of things.

Either things have an essence, independent of the will of the human observer, or they don't.

[ExSES]

Let's see..., pedophiles, necrophiliacs, animal mutilators, (you name it)... Never their fault, they are merely pawns of genetic anomalies! A new pursuit of under-compensated attorneys?

[RegulatorCountry]

Thank you for getting early prenatal sexual development and differentiation correct, I can’t tell you the number of times people, even here, have insisted that we’re all “female” prior to development of male sexual organs. Not true, prior to sexual differentiation there is a genital “bud” that protrudes as you note. Chromosomes direct development of that bud as well as internal Muellerian or Wolfian Ducts, which progress or regress in sexual development along with the external bud.

[txnativegop]

I have never heard of either of those movies, but, then, I am not a movie person. :)

[BuffaloJack]

NO.
But guys do have the deck stacked against them.
-— female birth control hormones in the water supply
-— soy products mimicking female hormones
-— ibuprofen suppressing the production of testosterone
-— female diversity indoctrination (if you are male)

[Varda]

None of that has been demonstrated scientifcally. Could sex confusion happen because of a physical process. Well maybe. There are no studies that show that it does.

Epigenetics is the temporary changes in expression in DNA caused by the environment of the gene.
As the article says, twin studies don’t show a connection. I’d guess twins would show higher expression rates if it had to do with that. (They do in other epigenetic studies).

[Robert357]

You are wrong when you say, “..God decided your sex at conception. XX or XY. No changing that. PERIOD!...”

Sorry, more than just XX and XY

The six biological karyotype sexes that do not result in death to the fetus are:

X – Roughly 1 in 2,000 to 1 in 5,000 people (Turner’s )
XX – Most common form of female
XXY – Roughly 1 in 500 to 1 in 1,000 people (Klinefelter)
XY – Most common form of male
XYY – Roughly 1 out of 1,000 people
XXXY – Roughly 1 in 18,000 to 1 in 50,000 births

Still that does seem like more than “two” And amazingly they are all God's work! God must enjoy a little variation.

But this article isn't about that, it is about transgender and homosexuality (aka “Gay) which I also think is the wrong way of looking at things.

To me transgender, means a man who wants to live life as a woman or a woman that wants to live life as a man. Let's look at Bruce Jenner for a moment. Jenner, by what ever first name you want to call “it” (as Jenner has been surgically and sexually altered from it's former natural state) is one side of the spectrum of an example of a transgender person. I can not imagine Jenner wanting to be with homosexual men or considering itself to be a homosexual man. Jenner is trying to become as much of a woman as she can be. It doesn't want to live life a man who like sex with other men. It has had its masculine genitalia removed.

Will Jenner every become a “woman?” Not really, but it has absolutely stopped being a man, whose body was designed by God. Jenner now has a body created by human surgeons to look like a woman's body and has been injected with hormones to further simulate a woman's body. Will Jenner ever become a woman? No. Will Jenner be able to provide the illusion of being a woman? Yes.

The article is about transgenders and about if one is born with genes (not chromosomes) that make one gay. It is a nonsense concept.

Is it possible that some people are genetically predisposed to become alcoholic, to develop breast cancer, or heart attacks? Yes. Can some people be genetically predisposed to learning disabilities or mental health problems or Alzheimer disease? Absolutely.

While I am not familiar with the studies on certain genes “contributing” to a predisposition to being homosexual or gay, it should not be ruled out.

[Yaelle]

Oooh, you know your sh*t; I knew I liked you.

Undoubtedly something these unborn are bathing in or comes in through the cord is causing these gender misfires.

I’ve seen these kids; from the first second they can “prefer” or play, they choose the same stuff the opposite gender chooses. Kids from crunchy granola lefty parents and kids from religious conservative parents. Gender dysphoria must begin extremely early in life. I suspect prenatally but one can’t yet rule out something in babyhood.

[\/\/ayne]

in the old days, if a person was a little odd, they would TRY TO FIT IN instead of parading their differences around...

Right as in old time literature they would sometimes include some mild amusement in a subplot with a strong woman and a weak man, sometimes calling him a "milquetoast." But we could see how it was just unique personalities fitting together and still living a normal life.

[fwdude]

I think some of these “scientists” are born idiots.

[RegulatorCountry]

At one point in my life I had a very good friend, she had so-called streaked ovaries. She was a boy in every way outside of her sexual organs. Very painful menstruation. Six feet tall, very strong, think of the blonde in armor on Game Of Thrones and you’d come close to what she looked like.

So, I know it is possible for people to be between sexes, and sometimes that expresses as seeming male without having male genitalia, or seeming female without having female genitalia. However, this is really pretty rare, I don’t even think 1% of births could be considered as such, contrary to popular belief. Most so-called intersex individuals are rather asexual with their outward appearance, actions and personalities not seeming particularly of one sex or the other.

What is being pushed now, this gender fluid thing, is a huge lie designed to confuse children and teens, healthy normal males and females, precisely when they’re most vulnerable, to make them think that just that passing phase or that momentary curiosity actually has permanent consequences. It’s cynical manipulation with two primary end goals. One, to break down moral standards in this country and in the west in general. And two, to eliminate as much reproduction as possible. That’s the why of what we’re seeing in the world today with all the confusion. It’s sown intentionally to eventually destroy our society, literally.