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MSNBC’s Velshi Patronizes Steel Worker: ‘You Don’t Want Your Son Being a Steel Worker I Assume’
Freebeacon.com ^ | Cameron Cawthorne

Posted on 03/13/2018 4:14:28 AM PDT by servo1969

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To: jdsteel
Depression era Republican plank.

It was a plank in the 1924 GOP platform. 1924 was NOT the Depression. Did you to school?

41 posted on 03/13/2018 6:27:45 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: jdsteel; central_va

He used to call me a “Free Traitor” all the time until I told him that, considering the source, I believed it was a badge of honor. He hasn’t called me that since.


42 posted on 03/13/2018 6:32:51 AM PDT by Eric Pode of Croydon (I'm an unreconstructed Free Trader and I do not give a damn.)
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To: servo1969

Steel fabrication in Tulsa was my out of the backwoods where the Chicken Men had a stranglehold on the local economy and paid nothing but starvation wages so no one could escape their grasp.


43 posted on 03/13/2018 6:33:07 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Re-open the insane asylums, stop drugging the kids.)
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To: central_va; Steely Tom
Bonehead are you saying there are more steel production facilities in the USA than in the 1950's?

The point is there has not been a reduction in American steel production in over thirty years. None, zero, zip. Whether that steel is made in ten factories, or in fifty, is of no importance.

Hey, get a real argument instead of loser failed economic policy of industrial destruction

How about rolling back fedgov regulation of industry back to what it was in the '50s? Can we agree on that?

44 posted on 03/13/2018 6:39:29 AM PDT by Eric Pode of Croydon (I'm an unreconstructed Free Trader and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
You are telling me that the USA has the same number of steel factories as in 1970?

I'm not telling you that, and I challenge you to point out where I said that.

You said "The factories in the USA closed down completely!" in your post #16, and I pointed out that that was an incorrect statement, and cited evidence to back up my assertion.

In response to which, you implied that I was on drugs, and accused me of being a "bonehead" and "stupid."

I did grow up in Dinwiddie County, but that doesn't mean I'm "stupid."

And no one I knew in Dinwiddie County was "stupid," either.

Although I certainly didn't know everyone there.

45 posted on 03/13/2018 6:42:57 AM PDT by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrat's John Dean])
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To: Steely Tom

Tom. SOME( a lot ) of steel mills closed down completely and were shipped over seas. That doesn’t mean ALL US steel factories were shipped over seas. Confusing automation with off shoring is a common ‘mistake’ globalists make. Automated or not, the USA produces a little more than half the steel it used to make in the 1970’s with 2/3’s the population.


46 posted on 03/13/2018 6:47:33 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: servo1969

I don’t know how patronizing that is. Every parent wants their children to do better than they did. My dad spent a career on the Ford assembly line and there is no way he would have wanted the same for my sister and me.


47 posted on 03/13/2018 6:52:07 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: servo1969

A Democrat shows his true colors and gets smacked down. There it is on display, the Democrats hate the little people and think they are stupid if they think for themselves.
Keep digging that hole deeper, Democrats. Double down on arrogance, that’s your winning strategy.


48 posted on 03/13/2018 6:55:12 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: central_va
the USA produces a little more than half the steel it used to make in the 1970’s with 2/3’s the population

A lot of that steel we made in the 60s and 70s was exported. Now we are the world's sixteenth largest steel exporter.

Is that because eeeevil globalists have been sabotaging our steel industry? Only in the fevered brains of conspiracy theorists.

What actually happened are two things. First, the rest of the world got smart and got productive. Second, our country decided to tax and regulate our industries to within an inch of bankruptcy.

We can fix the second, but as to the first, we pretty much have to suck it up if we want to sell competitively priced products.

49 posted on 03/13/2018 6:56:28 AM PDT by Eric Pode of Croydon (I'm an unreconstructed Free Trader and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Steely Tom

Nucor Steel has the highest steelworker wages and they are non-union.


50 posted on 03/13/2018 6:57:42 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon
At a minimum I would say highly automated state of the art steel mills in the USA can/should supply the USA's needs totally. That is step one.

I think the world is begging for high quality US steel products. So exports would be the next hurdle. Having the extra capacity is a matter of national security also.

51 posted on 03/13/2018 7:08:36 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: central_va

The Democrats have no monopoly on that.Just look around Free Republic...

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As a retired factory worker, I’ve noticed over the years.

By no means all, not even a majority, look down their noses at people like me. When I want to hear an elitist head explode, I describe myself as a retired union worker.

Never, in my lifetime voted for a democrat.


52 posted on 03/13/2018 7:12:49 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (The Lord hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.)
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To: central_va

Oh, ok. A PRE-Depression era Republican platform. That makes it SO much more relevant!!!

You know darn well who Conservative Gato is. No one else would come up with that ridiculous reference and use your “Free Traitor” line. Then you disappeared for a,while. What happened; were you on probation for multiple user accounts???


53 posted on 03/13/2018 7:24:05 AM PDT by jdsteel (Americans are Dreamers too!!!)
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To: servo1969
"You saw this trend in the 80s. You saw the imported steel was hurting the industry".

There's an industry I definitely wouldn't want my son working in, and there's a parallel here: We see another trend where modern technology is hurting the Fake News Industry because the people decided to transition on their own.

So to quote Velshi, "At some point doesn't it make more sense to start to transition" (away from fake news)?

54 posted on 03/13/2018 7:25:51 AM PDT by Heart of Georgia (truth will trump their lies)
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To: jdsteel

I have no idea what you are talking about, Conservative Gato. Is he a Freeper form way back?


55 posted on 03/13/2018 7:28:04 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: servo1969

“Well it was either that or journalism, and we wanted to be proud of him.”


56 posted on 03/13/2018 7:34:21 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Graybeard58
By no means all, not even a majority, look down their noses at people like me. When I want to hear an elitist head explode, I describe myself as a retired union worker.

Never, in my lifetime voted for a democrat.

I did work in a heavily unionized manufacturing plant in upstate New York; the guy I worked with every day was the shop steward. He was totally committed to the union, but he was very smart and a hard worker. He helped me in many ways, never hassled me about "picking up a screwdriver" or anything like that, and impressed me greatly.

Unfortunately (and I'm sorry to say this) the plant closed and is gone; the company was acquired in 2015 by a conglomerate.

57 posted on 03/13/2018 7:47:55 AM PDT by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrat's John Dean])
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To: servo1969

Maybe the man’s son decided that being a steelworker as preferable to being a journalist.


58 posted on 03/13/2018 9:29:36 AM PDT by oldtech
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To: oldtech

I was teaching my kids to be journalist but they refused to tell lies and act stupid


59 posted on 03/13/2018 9:31:58 AM PDT by morphing libertarian (Build Kate's Wall)
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To: Steely Tom

Electric furnace recycling of scrap steel still needs pig iron to thin the non-iron component and make up for shortfall of scrap. Republic in Lorain, Ohio appears to be resurrected by the Trump tariff move; and, with ERP Iron Ore, will restart Pig production.


60 posted on 03/13/2018 10:49:59 AM PDT by Ozark Tom
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