Posted on 03/12/2018 8:15:25 AM PDT by Liberty7732
I highly recommend that the Army, Navy, and Air Force put portable nuclear generators, water purification, and seawater desalinization units on their bases in the event that California attemps to cordon them off and put them under siege.
I would agree except that all of our major Pacific ports except Seattle are in California. I doubt we’d ever allow those to secede...
Excellent context for flipping the issue.
Of course, we know what they would oppose all those because there is no consistency to progressive policy. Just power.
Arrest Jerry “Moonbeam” Brown.
I don’t think California will be able to put anything up for siege. They fight with ballots. The military fights with bullets.
Whatever else happens as a result of this case, Sam Houston State University needs to fire Benjamin E. Parks from his job as an assistant professor of history. It is clear that he either knows next to nothing about the Constitution of the United States, or he is twisting the knowledge he has to support a political agenda of his own.
Except for the most extreme states' rights supporters, no one has ever advocated for states' rights on issues/concerns over which the federal government has been expressly empowered to make law. Article I, Section 7, of the Constitution empowers congress to establish laws regarding naturalization (e.g. immigration from foreign countries). Thus, the 10th Amendment does not apply, and individual states are not empowered to create their own laws regarding immigration/naturalization. Immigration/naturalization is not a legitimate states' rights issue.
There is no hypocrisy on the part of Mr. Sessions regarding his position on enforcement of federal immigration laws.
The premise here is foolishness.
Why armed conflict? Let them secede, then build the Wall to keep those Californians who don't come to the United States within a year on their side of the Wall.
The Ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach would come to a grinding halt if California wasn't part of the U.S.
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Either we are a nation of laws or we are not.
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You leave one VERY important adjective out: LEGAL (made pursuant the Constitution).
Secession is *still* a very valid path, regardless of what Keebler Magoo may state (incorrectly):
“That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”
But, you are correct, the gun will re-settle that debate, if need be.
If we were a Nation of Laws, Sessions is ~1yr 2mo. late to the tongue-lashing (and, he could have started in D.C., not CA).
You’d probably have a major secession movement even within California, as much of the state’s interior would almost certainly prefer to remain part of the U.S.
Federal troops were sent to Alabama and Mississippi to enforce integration. Why should California be treated differently?
All political power comes out of the barrel of the gun.
“They don’t even own guns.”
My FRiend, a lot of them do.
Myself and a few other FReepers can attest to this.
Keep your powder dry.
Over the years, I’ve had a lot of Liberals tell me that the parties mysteriously “switched places” in the 20th century and all of the bad old things that Democrats did (e.g. Jim Crow) are now the Republicans fault, and all of the good things that Republicans did (e.g. freeing the slaves) should now be credited to the Democrats.
But look at the nullification and secession talk that we see today. The Democrats of 2018 are still the same as the Democrats of 1832 and the original nullification crisis. They like to keep people on the plantation, and they like to pat themselves on the back for taking such “moral” positions.
I imagine Portland, Seattle, and even Vancouver would love the additional business.
I’m fine with that. Wall out the Democrats/illegals and only keep Americans in the United States of America.
I can’t really say anything more. I’m a defender of the Southern states right to secede, based on the Constitutional interpretation of the time in their eyes. Now, I believe that the post war Texas v White case (1869) settles the issue.
I certainly hope so. Does the Federal Govt have the authority to place the state under Martial Law?
I’m actually a big States Rights guy. But what I really want is consistency.
The Constitution does not talk about abortion, or homosexuality. And it definitely says that the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
If a state can make abortion illegal, make homosexuality illegal, and make full-auto machine guns legal, then we can begin a conversation about California and how it feels about federal government oversight. But they can’t have it both ways. They cannot hamstring my state why having their state go totally rogue.
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