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Two Miramar SWAT officers suspended for heading to Parkland massacre
Sun Sentinel ^ | 07-Mar-2018 | Linda Trischitta

Posted on 03/08/2018 6:42:25 AM PST by ptsal

When a gunman started shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, two Miramar SWAT team members did what comes naturally: They went to help.

Now they’ve been suspended for it.

The officers did not have permission to respond to the shooting at Parkland on Feb. 14, when 17 people were killed.

And that created an officer safety issue and left them unaccountable for their actions, according to their police department.

But their union reacted differently.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: cya; flschoolshooting; parkland; police; response
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**snip** “While it may have been a violation of policy to not notify their supervisors that they were going there, their intentions were brave and heroic, I think,” Broward County PBA President Jeff Marano said Wednesday.

The SWAT officers who responded were Detective Jeffrey Gilbert and Detective Carl Schlosser. One of them told supervisors he was in the Coral Springs area when the gunfire happened; it’s not known where the other drove from, police spokeswoman Tania Rues said.

“They were both close by [the high school],” Rues said.

A third SWAT member, Officer Kevin Gonzalez, was accused of being linked to several social media posts that put the city and police in a negative light, and was suspended for violating the department’s social media policy and the code of conduct, Rues said.

She said she “could not comment further on where he may have posted information about the mass shooting or what was written.”

1 posted on 03/08/2018 6:42:26 AM PST by ptsal
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To: ptsal

“officers did not have permission to respond”

Things work so much better when gov is involved. That’s why we should depend on them for cradle to grave support.


2 posted on 03/08/2018 6:46:28 AM PST by fruser1
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To: ptsal

You can NOT make this stuff up. Pathetic!


3 posted on 03/08/2018 6:46:55 AM PST by House Atreides (BOYCOTT the NFL, its products and players 100% - PERMANENTLY)
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To: fruser1
That’s why we should depend on them for cradle to grave support.

As an old rap Rush used to play when commenting on socialism, "Womb to the tomb"!

4 posted on 03/08/2018 6:49:02 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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Lessons learned from the Aurora, Colo. movie theater shooting and the Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport shooting “clearly demonstrate that a controlled, organized response is what is most effective,” Rues said.


YEAH.

Like Sheriff Israel’s “controlled response”


5 posted on 03/08/2018 6:51:02 AM PST by MarvinStinson
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To: fruser1

What’s that old saw about waiting for permission and asking for forgiveness? Maybe it’s a commando thing.


6 posted on 03/08/2018 6:51:14 AM PST by VietVet876
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To: ptsal

SHAME ON THOSE AR 15’S
FOR WHAT HAPPENED AT THE PARKSIDE SCHOOL

BLAME GUNS
NOT
PREVIOUS GOVERNMENT POLICIES FAILURES THEY
MUST BE HIDDEN

The inability to counter this perverted (they call progressive) agenda created by the democratic party ( in name only) has its goose stepping adherents in the media left make it up as guns and the NRA garbage through their swill mills. When it should be contested by GOP state and federal legislators who should be demanding investigative hearings exposing policy failures

DON’T MENTION THIS
Besides examining the conduct and arrangements of the Broward county sheriff’s dept performance failures. A dramatic reduction in disciplinary incidents at Parkside were reported after the selection of Obama’s Chicago friend as school superintendent occurred which was publicly acclaimed.And that school district was receiving large grant money from Obama’s Attorney General because of those results. That many critics claimed encouraged criminal activity. Which should require Trump Administration US Attorney General beside find out why when the FBI knew that Cruz should not be able to purchase weapons did. And review these grant programs instituted by the previous Obama administration.

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7 posted on 03/08/2018 6:53:40 AM PST by mosesdapoet (Mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslin another gem posted in the wilderness)
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To: ptsal

Wow, aren’t government priorities messed up. The logic behind this decision is really warped!


8 posted on 03/08/2018 6:53:54 AM PST by Retvet (Retvet)
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I’ve worked a lot with federal, state and local police officers and one thing I’ve been told consistently is that most departments REQUIRE their officers to carry while off duty, the purpose being to respond as officers should in an unexpected situation. How is this different? If an off-duty officer sees someone getting mugged, he/she is obligated to respond, but not permitted to respond in the case of children being executed?

I realize chiefs are appointed and not elected, but if I were the mayor of Miramar, I’d call the chief in and say, “Suspended? Really? Just how did you get your head that far up your ass? Give the officers an official reminder of department policy, tear it up so it doesn’t go into their files and remind them to call it in next time.”


9 posted on 03/08/2018 6:54:18 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: MarvinStinson

Irony: cops who responded get punished.

Nothing happens to cops who sat around and did nothing.

Now you understand why cops take a report and go home.

If they try to stop a crime, their brass will give them no support, pandering politicians will denounce them, race hustlers will demand they be prosecuted and the DA will indict them.

Not worth it. Don’t rock the boat and don’t call attention to yourself.

As the Miramar cops have so painfully learned.


10 posted on 03/08/2018 6:56:19 AM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Forever))
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To: ptsal

Parkland bump for later....


11 posted on 03/08/2018 6:57:18 AM PST by indthkr
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Make a note you slapped their hands, leave out why and move on...


12 posted on 03/08/2018 6:57:40 AM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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“I realize chiefs are appointed and not elected, but if I were the mayor of Miramar, I’d call the chief in and say, “Suspended? Really? Just how did you get your head that far up your ass? Give the officers an official reminder of department policy, tear it up so it doesn’t go into their files and remind them to call it in next time.”

Very well put.


13 posted on 03/08/2018 6:59:46 AM PST by MplsSteve
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To: ptsal

This is probably 100% correct, imo.
You have to stay in your assigned area.

Had there been an emergency call in their own duty area, they would have been unable to respond.

You can’t just leave your assigned area like that.


14 posted on 03/08/2018 7:02:24 AM PST by ltc8k6
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To: goldstategop

A friend of mine was a cop, for awhile.

He always tried to help people when he could. His superiors didn’t see it that way. They looked at every interaction with the public as a way to write tickets. Bring in revenue, it’s what they want. Don’t write a ticket to the minorities, they won’t pay and it will be a hassle. Ticket whitey for anything. They pay because they have other things to do.

He described it a mostly a revenue producing department.


15 posted on 03/08/2018 7:03:55 AM PST by shelterguy
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Every new fact supports my impression that this was a much anticipated event. Everything was in place to political advantage of event. What has been seen as incompitance, including the ‘hold in place’ order, was really part of the plan to let the shooting take place. The only thing they didn’t know was what day it would happen. But they knew the probability was very high it would happen. The dems see their only real way to meaningful gun “control” is through school shootings. The larger the casualty count the better.


16 posted on 03/08/2018 7:07:10 AM PST by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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To: ptsal

Feel free to call the Miramar PD (non emergency):

(954) 602-4000

Chief Dexter M. Williams

Let them know how you feel about suspending the brave officers from SWAT.


17 posted on 03/08/2018 7:08:59 AM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (SEDITION! Obama DOJ colluded to try overthrow the President!)
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To: Retvet

This is just fodder to prop up their failure of the initial officers who cowered behind their vehicles while 17 people were being murdered just inside the building.


18 posted on 03/08/2018 7:09:16 AM PST by Delta 21 (Build The Wall !! Jail The Cankle !!)
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To: shelterguy

In most hives the problem isn’t the worker bees it’s the drones and the queen...


19 posted on 03/08/2018 7:09:43 AM PST by null and void (The difference between the democrats and the GOPe is the GOPe has a smaller fire under the frog pot.)
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To: ltc8k6

HAd they been needed in the SWAT response to the school, they would have already been there.


20 posted on 03/08/2018 7:10:52 AM PST by Delta 21 (Build The Wall !! Jail The Cankle !!)
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