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The Insanity Of The Left And Its New Spokesman (David Hogg)
Market-Ticker ^ | Feb 26, 2018 | Karl Denninger

Posted on 02/26/2018 6:30:35 AM PST by Wolfie

The Insanity Of The Left And Its New Spokesman

From The Hill:

Stoneman Douglas student David Hogg on deputy who did not enter school during shooting: "Who wants to go down the barrel of an AR-15, even with a glock? And I know that's what these police officers are supposed to do, but they're people too."

So, media-annointed Mr. Spokesman, who "magically" got a checkmark on Twitter too all of a sudden, has decided that it's perfectly-acceptable to virtue signal when people fail to do the job they're hired to do.

Does anyone want to stare down the barrel of a firearm? Of course not. However, we hire some people to do exactly that, and we give them both guns and body armor to make it a somewhat more-reasonable fight if they are called upon to do so.

Let me point out that nobody is drafted into a copshop. People have been drafted to go to war. Today we don't, but David Hogg didn't live in a world where that could reasonably happen whereas I did; when I turned 18 the memory of people being drafted to go fight in Vietnam was still there and I still registered as required on my birthday. Did I like the idea of being conscripted? No, but if I had been I would have fought.

However, just like police officers, today many voluntarily join the military. Indeed, some of Hogg's classmates have joined the military on a deferred basis even though too young to enlist. We call them JROTC, and some are in Hogg's class. Those people all know that when they go through ROTC after becoming of age to get the benefits thereof they will be required to serve. All persons who wear the uniform of the armed forces may be called to fight, and that fight might get personal at some point in their military career, with them being shot at and needing to return fire in an attempt to avoid dying.

If you take upon yourself a job that has a known and agreed-upon risk of having to stare down a person who is using a firearm in an aggressive manner and who might seek to shoot you then you have voluntarily taken that up in exchange for money. If you fail to perform and other people die then in the military you can and will be charged under the UCMJ for cowardice before the enemy.

We absolutely must demand the same standard of cops; not only do they get a far more-cushy deal while employed they get a hell of a lot better deal in retirement than most military members do as well!

Indeed, why hasn't the media turned one of those ROTC kids into a spokesman? Oh wait - they tried to "flip" one and tamper with his questions and statement, and he told them (CNN) to **** off. Good for him. Notice how that story is being given the wall treatment and the media is lying about what they did?

Never mind that those who claim that you "can't" stop a bad guy with a rifle if all you have is a pistol are full of crap. You do remember the shooting at the ball field, right? Politicians gunned down by a guy with an SKS (rifle), taken out by cops with.... pistols. Oh, and that shooter was outdoors where he had tactical advantage that disappears and in fact becomes negative inside, with one of the most-profound differences being that if you fire a rifle indoors without hearing protection you're not going to hear anything for hours including the cop who now can close distance to you without you hearing him coming.

Mr. Hogg, **** off. You are making apologies for, it appears, not just one but four cowards. Further, you are making said apologies while said coward is using the power of his former office to evade mere questions from the media using armed thugs patrolling his house -- in fact there are many more armed officers protecting him from mere speech than your county could be bothered to put in your school despite a very-specific threat by Cruz to shoot it up.

The cowards of Broward must not only be forced from office they must be criminally charged.

Specifically, it appears that one or more of them is guilty of violating a felony Florida Statute, specifically 838.022, which declares that it is a felony to conceal, cover up, destroy, mutilate or alter any official record or document. Said corruption and felony may extend to members of the Palm Beach Sheriff's office as well.

These members of the so-called "Sheriffs office" would appear to have deliberately covered up that Cruz appears to have committed felonies that had been reported to them and were intentionally ignored, thereby concealing same.

It certainly appears they had a legal duty to refer said events for prosecution and did not do so intentionally.

Then, faced with the need to do their job and interdict said shooter they instead cowered outside.

There is no need for a Sheriff's Office nor any of the expenditures of taxpayer money for same if they're not going to do the damned jobs when the flag goes up.

Oh by the way Mr. Hogg, even the leftist media are starting to turn on the Sheriff. You're next, and I'm not the only one that's after you. Public opinion is a funny thing, and if you think those who have twisted facts and outright lied are going to quietly slither away into the night... you're wrong.


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KEYWORDS: broward; crusher; david; hogg; wesley
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1 posted on 02/26/2018 6:30:36 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie

2 posted on 02/26/2018 6:32:00 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines (Their side circles the wagons. Our side revs up the bus.)
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To: Wolfie

This is the left’s new little twerp.


3 posted on 02/26/2018 6:34:09 AM PST by Kevin in California
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To: Wolfie

How do “liberal elites” at MSNBC feel about a gunmen breaking into their studios, shooting up the place and walking out WHILE THEIR ARMED GUARDS COWER IN THE CLOSETS?

Elites need to think this insanity through before they back it.


4 posted on 02/26/2018 6:34:56 AM PST by GOPJ (The 'dead vote' is a byproduct of fraud that "votes the people who don't show up".)
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To: Kevin in California

Left’s little twink is more like it.


5 posted on 02/26/2018 6:35:40 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines (Their side circles the wagons. Our side revs up the bus.)
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That little limp d (otherwise known as the publicity hogg) looks like he landed at Area 51.



6 posted on 02/26/2018 6:35:47 AM PST by Vision Thing (You see the depths of our hearts, and You love us the same...)
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To: Wolfie

Who wants to look down the BARREL OF A GLOCK, even with an AR-15?


7 posted on 02/26/2018 6:36:37 AM PST by oldplayer
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To: Wolfie

It’s undoubtedly true that this kid was ready to go before the shooting started.

It’s almost unimaginable - almost - that forces within the Deep State sent Cruz in there - but it is beyond a doubt that the Children’s Crusade was arranged well in advance, with the script written and this kid picked out.


8 posted on 02/26/2018 6:37:45 AM PST by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like?)
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To: Wolfie

Leftist use victims to push their anti-gun talking points.

Then when people counter it they say you are attacking children that were victims.


9 posted on 02/26/2018 6:37:49 AM PST by Enlightened1
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To: Vision Thing

I can almost guarantee you CNN has cut this little punk a nice little check to be their new anti-gun mouthpiece.


10 posted on 02/26/2018 6:38:07 AM PST by Kevin in California
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To: Wolfie
""Who wants to go down the barrel of an AR-15, even with a glock? And I know that's what these police officers are supposed to do, but they're people too."

What an idiotic statement; we're not talking duels or meeting on Main Street at High Noon - sneak up on the MF an cap him from concealment!

11 posted on 02/26/2018 6:40:50 AM PST by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D. - What Would Jack Bauer Do?)
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To: Kevin in California

I’ll bet he’s some kind of kin to “Boss Hogg”.


12 posted on 02/26/2018 6:41:00 AM PST by EnglishOnly (Fight all out to win OR get out now. .)
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To: Wolfie

The little poofter looks like a space alien.


13 posted on 02/26/2018 6:42:04 AM PST by TTFlyer
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To: Wolfie

David Camera Hogg


14 posted on 02/26/2018 6:42:15 AM PST by Phillyred
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To: Wolfie

That dead coach stared down that barrel with nothing!!!!


15 posted on 02/26/2018 6:42:53 AM PST by ontap
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To: Wolfie
Interesting how Mr. Hogg wants to hold everyone accountable except the Sheriff and the Deputy on duty that day...
16 posted on 02/26/2018 6:43:18 AM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Kevin in California

He really needs his ass kicked in the worst way


17 posted on 02/26/2018 6:44:10 AM PST by 38special (For real, y'all.)
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To: Kevin in California

Let the little s*** run his mouth. The pro-gun rights backlash is already building.


18 posted on 02/26/2018 6:45:47 AM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

He really likes the attention. Listening to the wisdom of this 17 year old is ridiculous. The more facts that come out about the shooting and aftermath the more his crusade should be shamed into oblivion. He reminds me of the Olympic skater who made me not interested in the Olympics.


19 posted on 02/26/2018 6:46:27 AM PST by outinyellowdogcountry
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To: Wolfie
An LATimes article posted the day after the Parkland massacre features student, David Hogg's video. The article was posted Feb 15, 2018 | 2:46 PM.

Note: Hogg applies his own time stamps to LATimes embedded video segments which he states were filmed while he and one or more female students were sheltering in place allegedly in a school closet during the Parkland Valentines Day massacre.

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The LATimes posts David Hogg's nearly 4 minute long video which begins with David claiming it is 2:52 p.m. He states he "heard" one gun shot. He DOES NOT state that he saw the shooter.

@ 3:13 p.m. Hogg updates with details...provided by whom?...Hogg actually IDs the shooter as a senior named Nik Cruz who was neutralized [INCLUDING EMBEDDED PHOTO OF CRUZ] - adding the caveat that his information has not been confirmed...again, confirmed by whom? How did he have that photo of Cruz to include in the video recorded while sheltering-in-place during an active shooter situation???

Also, the day after the shooting, in a Feb.15 2018 NYT report, the shooting arrest record is posted with the following details...

On Wednesday Feb.14,2018 at approx. 2:23 PM, multiple 911 calls were received..."

Hogg claims it is 2:52 PM when he is in closet.

The NYT published police report also states:

Approximately one hour later, a subject fitting the description of the shooter was contacted at the 1400 block of Windham Lakes Blvd. South, Coral Springs by CS units and identified as Nikolas Cruz W/M DOB: 9/24/98"

So, according to the NYT published police report, 911 calls began at 2:23PM, Hogg begins his report at 2:52PM. The NYT published police report states approximately one hour after the 911 calls began, @ approx. 3:23PM the Coral Springs police locate and identify Cruz. Yet, somehow at 3:13PM – ten minutes before the Coral Springs Police locate and identify Cruz, Hogg pronounced unconfirmed reports of a neutralized shooter with the identity of Nikolas Cruz.

How is it possible that Hogg knew the police had neutralized Cruz, by name, before the time recorded in the police report?

Also note the two additional clips of Hogg's video tape he has one or two females making gun control statements while sheltering in place during the massacre...that is some remarkably instantaneous community organizing!

One of the female students in Hogg's video is identified as Isabelle Robinson as seen in the LATimes published video clip. A rough transcript of her statement follows:

">"Um, we're on lockdown because there was an active shooting. We thought it was a fire drill and went outside and then people starting running because there were shots. I didn't hear them personally and then I started running. I really don't think there is anything you could say but there shouldn't have to be because if you looked around this closet and saw everyone just hiding together, you would know that this shouldn't be happening anymore and that it doesn't deserve to happen to anyone and that no amount of money should make it more easily accessible to get guns. Um, and that's that."
continued from above:

Another voice on a dark screen at 0:22 continues with "spontaneous" anti-gun editorializing - captioned (Student)

"I personally have rallied for, you know, gun rights and less control -- not necessarily less control, but this experience has definitely changed my viewpoints. I wanted to be a junior NRA member, I wanted to learn how to hunt, I was always fascinated by guns as a young girl, but this experience was so traumatizing to the point where now I can't even fathom the idea of a gun in my house. I did have plans for my 18th birthday to go to Nexus Gun Range and learn how to shoot, but at this point, I don't even want to be behind a gun. I don't want to be the person behind a bullet, because I don't want to be the person to point a bullet at someone, and to have the bullet pointed at me, my school, my classmates, my teachers, my mentors -- it's just, it's definitely eye-opening to the fact that we need more gun control in our country, because for this to happen, and for people to be so neutralized to it...I even texted my sisters, "Shooting at my school, I am safe." They both responded with, "OMG, LOL, you're funny." Now that's a problem in society, and it's a bigger problem in America, and it needs to be fixed, and I believe the most definite way to fix it is by changing our laws when it comes to gun ownership."

Yet another posting of Hogg’s video to YouTube, culled from WMSD-TV via Storyful ....starts with Hogg asking Isabelle

“So, what’s your message?”
before Isabelle begins at the 0:51 second mark with
“I really don’t think...”

*see partial transcript below of the LATimes video for remaining text.

Notice this culled video has an intro question prompting for Isabelle’s message while the LATimes video of the same clip of Isabelle doesn’t include Hogg’s prompt. The LATimes clip instead has Hogg editorializing with his update about shooter being neutralized, a shooter who he hasn’t seen but can identify WITH Cruz’s photo despite Hogg’s caveat “unconfirmed”.

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Note: David Hogg’s father is retired FBI. His mother, Rebecca Boldrick is outspoken about her anti-Trump views ...comments in this Heavy.com link state that Boldrick’s pinterest page states both she and her husband were FBI and now are teachers.

Online suggestions that Boldrick is a CNN VIP are likely not true. These rumors are based on photos of Hogg seated behind the CNN news desk on a “VIP tour”. Turns out the VIP tour is available to anyone http://tours.cnn.com/# as seen in this screen cap

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ROUGH PARTIAL TRANSCRIPT:

  • http://www.latimes.com/visuals/video/95939817-132.html 03:48

    David Hogg

    Student at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School

    (whisper) "So, right now we're in school with an active shooter. It's not a drill and it's currently, it's 2:52. I heard gun, heard one gunshot. We thought it was a drill initially, and it's not. (unclear) hopefully....??

    Clearly at this point in the video, it is edited with a break - improved, less grainy visual.

    (continued)

    "At around 2:30 we heard a gunshot in my AP ? science class and we initially thought it was a drill and we heard multiple, we heard more gun shots. And that was when we realized this was not a drill.

    fades and then continues

    This was life or death. So, it's now 3:13 and we've heard supposedly it's a senior, not confirmed at all. The senior is believed to be Nik Cruz (and shows photo) - this has not been confirmed. This is the latest information that we have, though. We still believe that the person has been neutralized but we're still currently on lock-down.

    Camera focuses on another student, Isabelle Robinson

    Student at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School

    "Um, we're on lock-down because there was an active shooting. We thought it was a fire drill and went outside and then people starting running because there were shots. I didn't hear them personally and then I started running. I really don't think there is anything you could say but there shouldn't have to be because if you looked around this closet and saw everyone just hiding together, you would know that this shouldn't be happening anymore and that it doesn't deserve to happen to anyone and that no amount of money should make it more easily accessible to get guns. Um, and that's that.

    Break in video - end of partial transcript


20 posted on 02/26/2018 6:48:52 AM PST by wtd
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