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Deputy who didn’t stop Florida shooting thinks he ‘did a good job’
NY Post ^ | February 22, 2018 | 10:57pm | David K. Li

Posted on 02/22/2018 8:25:56 PM PST by conservative98

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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

The deputy at the school should have been notified. This kid should have been high up on his list of people to keep tabs on. So I have no problem with that. That’s where it ends though. It’s not his place to do an evaluation work-up on that kid. Once the kid has left his school, his hands on work should be done, other than kicking him off campus if he was fortunate to spot him on campus. I can’t believe that he would be able to prevent that kid from coming on campus, and that’s why it was so vitally important for some entity other than this guy to make a referral.

Still, it baffles me with all the contact with this kid and his family, the terrible threats that had been made, the tips that had been called in, WHY WASN’T THIS KID REFERRED TO THE JUVENILE CHILDREN’S SERVICES DIVISION, AND FORCED INTO PSYCH EVALUATION?

Any kid that comes into contact with the police is subject to this sort of thing, if there are clear warning signs.

As a kid I ran away from home at one point. My parents were having some fierce verbal exchanges that pushed me to my wits end, and I took action. I went to my aunt’s home 120 miles away on the bus.

Our home was referred to counseling on the very first incident.

Once in counseling, this kid could have been evaluated for more serious problems, and with calls coming in saying he was going to kill people, you don’t ignore that sort of thing.

To try to lay this off on the deputy on campus, as the Sheriff seems to have tried to do, boggles the mind.

Once the kid is out of his school, what is the deputy on campus supposed to do, to prevent more trouble?

The sheriff’s department seems to have dropped the ball. Th FBI dropped the ball.


381 posted on 02/24/2018 3:52:54 PM PST by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: GOPJ

But hey, “only the police should have guns”...

I will NEVER be unarmed.


382 posted on 02/24/2018 4:06:34 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Liz; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Grampa Dave; GOPJ; RitaOK; bitt; bkopto

RE Broward:

Break them.


383 posted on 02/24/2018 4:16:50 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: DoughtyOne
"How far was that room from a cover spot?"

The distance between the attacker and the nearest wall was close enough, and a pistol would have been an advantage. That's beside the point, though. Children were being killed. Police training should be enough to stop someone like Cruz.


384 posted on 02/24/2018 4:32:29 PM PST by familyop (President Trump said that we're all important, so let's do something!)
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To: familyop

Thank you for the additional comment.

D1


385 posted on 02/24/2018 4:52:34 PM PST by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: DoughtyOne

Sorry, I got lost in the site and see that it was an older thread.


386 posted on 02/24/2018 5:36:29 PM PST by familyop (President Trump said that we're all important, so let's do something!)
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To: DoughtyOne

Didn’t see it, even.


387 posted on 02/24/2018 5:36:59 PM PST by familyop (President Trump said that we're all important, so let's do something!)
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To: DoughtyOne

The first hot tip predicting Cruz’s massacre was received while he was still attending MSD- 2016. The SRO was assigned to that tip and the following tip. He never filed a report (or the BSO is claiming that he did not.)

Cruz was NOT arrested or expelled numerous times because of the “Stop the School Pipeline to Prison” 2013 plan that created a sanctuary for thousands of Broward criminal juvenile delinquents who relish wreaking havoc throughout Ft. Lauderdale’s schools.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3633095/posts

Cruz is a severely disturbed maniac that grew up as a very warped kid that grew from an adopted toddler that probably grew from an egg distilling in a womb in Russia, assuming that’s where Nikolai and his birth mother originated.

Children named ‘MaDrankk Stolichnaya’ face a lifetime of difficulties. And he looks and acts like a textbook case of (FAS) displaying with multiple Secondary symptoms. Meds are generally ineffective and make them worse. Intensive early therapy prior to adolescence yields moderate functionality.

Unfortunately, the Broward schools mainstream nearly everyone different and collect all the additional federal and state special education funding for their own coffers. Cruz likely had inadequate help and school services so he grew to become a completely angry irrational deranged misfit. His education was an epic fail for the past decade exasperated by both of his parents’ deaths. He was doomed.

****Russia Russia Russia*****


388 posted on 02/24/2018 6:02:59 PM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: familyop

No problem...


389 posted on 02/24/2018 6:18:02 PM PST by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: familyop

“:^)


390 posted on 02/24/2018 6:18:29 PM PST by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

I just don’t understand why a deputy on sight is tasked with evaluating the guy. Clearly they know the kid was a problem or he wouldn’t have been referred to the deputy on site.

It just makes no sense at all, as far as evaluation goes. If they were notifying him (giving him a heads up) so he’d be able to know something about the problematic kid, fine, but he’s not the person who should be doing a psych evaluation.

This is so lame > IMO.

Whoever referred the kid to the deputy, should have been referring him to someone for a psych interviews and evaluations for other special programs.

He doesn’t seem to have been a candidate for general population at a normal school.

He probably belonged in a special ed program with very close supervision and almost constant re-evaluations to see if he was progressing to a ignition point.

If he was, he should have been put in some sort of lock down.


391 posted on 02/24/2018 6:25:34 PM PST by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: DoughtyOne

Many people had contact with Nik. at school and through BSO. His last year at MSD, he had 25 disciplinary write-ups in the first semester before they finally expelled him. The SRO was not conducting a pych. eval. He was supposed to be assessing the risk from Cruz and writing a report.

He was likely involved with dealing with him already. Cruz was bringing knives to school and selling them from his lunchbox. (Arrest him!)

His ex-gf told the school he wouldn’t quit stalking her. Lopez said, ‘He would hit her. He would threaten her. He would threaten her family and friends for talking to other guys.’ (Arrest him!)

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5413309/Nikolas-Cruz-abused-ex-sold-knives-lunch-box.html#ixzz585FM6oWK

Cruz was a candidate for reform school and did not belong in the general population.
DCF had assessed him, but he was never Baker Acted -which is easy to do in FL and should have happened at his home based on his behavior.


392 posted on 02/24/2018 11:36:55 PM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: China Clipper
I was wrong. Turns out that the "monitor" identified the shooter's garments as he watched him get out of an Uber ride and enter the school...all before the shooting.

It also looks like law enforcement were under orders not to arrest or interfere with the under 21 crowd due to the manipulation of statistics to qualify for federal/state funding.

If further investigation reveals that this was a national big bucks Obama rewards program to eliminate ethnic/blacks/immigrants criminal behavior statistics, I'm gonna puke.

The families of the 17 victims need to assemble an OJ-like "Dream Team" and tear the system a new a$$hole. I'd donate to that effort.

393 posted on 02/25/2018 4:10:07 AM PST by Scooter100
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To: DoughtyOne

Here’s a news clip regarding what was happening to the special education students in Broward:

The school district’s special-ed department has been under heightened scrutiny after an independent consultant’s report in late May (2015) found 110 areas of weakness.

The report showed the special-ed student-to-teacher ratio was much higher in Broward than neighboring counties, millions of dollars went unspent that could have funded specialists and technicians, teacher training was inadequate and special-needs children had longer bus rides than other students.

Some parents have expressed frustration in the past few years about the way the department operates. Members of the district’s ESE Advisory Council have been critical...
A disproportionate share of complaints to the state are from Broward County, the report by Tallahassee-based Evergreen Solutions showed.

There’s about 32,000 spec-ed students in Broward county.


394 posted on 02/25/2018 5:04:45 AM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Those infractions are school rule infractions. If teachers caught the kid, they school administration would be taking care of it.

This deputy likely isn’t involved in a lot of things that take place at the school.

As for a write-up, who in the Sam Hell would task this guy at the high school in a more limited capacity, to do what the department itself would be tasked with?

It has now surfaced the police had been called to this kid’s home around 60 times.

I’ve got a pretty good idea why this Sheriff is looking for others to blame.


395 posted on 02/26/2018 2:51:51 PM PST by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
Thanks. That's quite revealing.

Here's a post by RC one with a link to the Sheriff addressing an Islamic group.

At about 3:30 he touches on things they are doing. Evidently they weren't doing enough of it, considering your post here.

396 posted on 02/26/2018 2:57:51 PM PST by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: DoughtyOne

Understand in post #394, the topic is Special Education for students with learning differences. They have not been doing a good job and the students are not progressing as best they could.

Cruz was one of those. He had so many issues he belonged in a contained school where they specialize on helping with his issues.


397 posted on 02/26/2018 3:08:19 PM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

I agree with your thought those kids weren’t getting what they should be.

Look, I’m not exonerating this deputy completely, but the piling on is over the top.

The police department got over 60 calls to his home. The school had dealt with many of his problems. It should have been clear to everyone that this kid needed elevated attention.

Now all of a sudden, I’m hearing it’s all the deputy’s fault, and I’m just not having it.

If the department had 60 calls on him, and if the school had enough difficulty they had to kick him out, shouldn’t it have been obvious to everyone this kid needed help?

How could the school administration drop the ball like this?

Kicking the kid out with nothing to do except sit around and stew of it, was a massive mistake. He should have been in a program. Every school teacher there would know that. Every member of the administration would.


398 posted on 02/26/2018 3:15:22 PM PST by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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