The statistical cost of providing new armed security for public schools

American Thinker ^ | 02/22/2018 | Andrew Solomon

[CAluvdubya]

I’m already on campus and getting paid. Let me CC and it won’t cost a penny more.

[imardmd1]

Yeah. These days I do not answer the door without having my firearm on me, unless it is someone I know. And even then, no one enters the house, especially a policeman, unless I do know them. On two occasions, I found it was a stranger who was trying to get in through an appeal to use my phone, or to distract me and get me outside away from the front door while the accomplice was testing the back door.

And if you step out of your domicile, an LEO has no excuse to go any farther without a search warrant, IIRC, whatever other reason he might have.

Thanks for the analysis!

[imardmd1]

Again, you are presuming something I did not say. It is time to quit that. If you need a two-word monosyllabic asnswer, I can give you one.

[imardmd1]

#1 : I re-read Post #38. Nothing dictatorial. You are wrong. I stand by it.

In your Post #38 you expresseds:

>> Get the teachers educated on responsible gun use and threat mitigation using the continuing education program. And get them armed. Now. <<

And that is not preemptive an in the present tense, active voice, and imperative mode? Ah be dawg!

That was not prefaced with "I think" or "We ought to" or "Why don't we", my FRiend. Sounds like my old Recruit School drill sergeant to me. He would have been quite irate if I hadn't considered it absolutely dictatorial.

#2 : A portion of my post you copied is a word-for-word copy of your Post #63. Perhaps you are assuming you can read my mind? Are you attributing your dictatorial thoughts to me?

Nope. just carrying your preemptive imperative direct order of #38 to a logical conclusion in which a teacher has nothing to say about it. Not my thought. Yours, very clearly and unarguably.

You might want to back off, FRiend. Not preemptive, imperative, or dictatorial. Just a strong suggestion for you to consider before you plunge ahead.

[imardmd1]

Where the heck did you get this from? I don’t see how religion enters into it. If the representative government is doing what I ask of it, and which the law expects, that is not wrong, my FRiend. It is why we have a Constitutional government to bring peace and harmony out of anarchy and war. Your interpretation puzzles me.

[imardmd1]

I’m already on campus and getting paid. Let me CC and it won’t cost a penny more.

It will if one of my grandchildren catches one of your stray bullets if/when your involvement is questionable and not related to your own personal welfare. In fact, conceivably it could cost your life if you have a gunin hand.and your role is not clear to the responders. You'd better have thought out and rehearsed this beforehand.

[KC_for_Freedom]

We will simply have to agree to disagree on this. While I like the idea of it being a requirement for the job, I can only see this in a start up charter school.

In any ongoing school there are many teachers who would be forced out of their jobs if this requirement were imposed. I suppose it could be imposed on new hires but not on the old guard. And you are right, the union would protect anyone who felt the least bit infringed —Never mind that the union is also an arm of the Democrat party and would be opposed to this blindly because they hate the idea that you or I can be armed.

Any way, I have taught, coached, led the senior class activities, and I know there are teachers who never volunteer for any extra work. But there are teachers who still have the idealistic spark that led them to be teachers in the first place. Not all would run into a burning house or confront an armed intruder, that takes something that can’t be learned. But the ones who can defend their classroom would never willingly choose to hide behind a desk without a weapon while a shooter kicked his way into the room. Recall the scene in Eastwood’s new movie, 15 17 to Paris for the scene depicting an active shooter alert on a military base. They were un prepared too.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Doe an LCP in the front pocket count?

[so_real]

Back off ... of what? You aren't making threats are you? Funny guy. You can read whatever you want into my commentary. I don't especially care. But I think most *every* one else, especially my FRiends, won't read "dictorial" into that as you do. But I can't fix you. Your glasses are rose colored. Only you can change them. As for me ... it's full steam ahead ... train those teachers and school staff members, get gun safes in those classrooms and offices, let them defend themselves and their charges during lock down, and never let the enemy know who is carrying and who is not. Protecting the children is what is most important. To most folks here, I'm preaching to the choir. But maybe not so much for you. Oh well. The next ear may be more receptive.

[imardmd1]

I’m trying to see where you say we disagree. Would you please point that out to me? I was just looking at the practicality. I see your view as being in the way things are, which is what I said in Post #83.

[itsahoot]

But as to how they interact with the budget, I do not have first hand knowledge.

I quit teaching in California 17 years ago and believe me they didn't pay for any continuing education. They did give you homosexual desensitization indoctrination for free, which was a good reason to retire.

[so_real]

A conservative teaching in California; you have my sympathy and respect. I remember when sensitivity training first came into vogue. That was when I knew the profession had begun its downward spiral.