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Lawsuits challenge Electoral College System in four U.S. States
Reuters/MSN ^ | 2-21-2018 | Nate Raymond

Posted on 02/21/2018 5:17:34 PM PST by tcrlaf

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To: Rurudyne

Stop trolling!

Cruz is by the definition of a SCOTUS that consisted entirely of founders, a natural born citizen.

He was born a citizen by the court’s definition.

Your definition is bovine excrement.


21 posted on 02/21/2018 5:57:46 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

I’m not trolling.

And the Court has been in abeyance on many things since FDR’s time.

NBC required citizen parents, especially a citizen father.


22 posted on 02/21/2018 6:00:16 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Publius

RTFM.


23 posted on 02/21/2018 6:00:50 PM PST by Mouton (The MSM is a clear and present danger to the republic.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Does Amendment XIV, Section 2 require popular vote for electors, at the risk of losing representation in Congress?

States with one representative clearly be unaffected.


24 posted on 02/21/2018 6:01:04 PM PST by scrabblehack
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To: Eddie01

He either is or he isn’t. Depends on what is is.


25 posted on 02/21/2018 6:16:54 PM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: tcrlaf

Why don’t we just skip having a National Election then, and let Nancy Pelosi pick our next President ?


26 posted on 02/21/2018 6:17:10 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: tcrlaf

Jousting at windmills.


27 posted on 02/21/2018 6:38:33 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: tcrlaf

They are working an easy work around. Several states have changed their laws to award EC votes not by who won the state but who won the poplular vote. They won’t activate until they have enough states on board....


28 posted on 02/21/2018 6:44:09 PM PST by stockpirate (TYRANNY IS THY NAME REBELLION IS OUR ANSWER. HANG THEM ALL!)
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To: tcrlaf

The MA gov who filed was GOP turned Libertarian William (”Pink”-) Floyd Weld


29 posted on 02/21/2018 6:50:08 PM PST by raccoonradio
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To: stockpirate

I understand that the constitution grants wide latitude as to how states choose electors, but I would argue that scheme violates the guarantee of a republican form of government. In effect they would be representing the will of the people of the several states and not the state which they represent. At that point the electoral college becomes a vestigial body with no function.


30 posted on 02/21/2018 7:07:49 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: tcrlaf

You said it. Any attorney thinking this case has merit should be disbarred for being incompetent to practice law.

This is embarrassingly ridiculous. Presidential elections are not one national election - you are participating in an election created by your state legislature - that they did not have to grant you. They are completely separate elections - there is no “national popular vote” - does not exist in any official capacity. The quote from David Boies is totally idiotic in the article - there is nothing in the U.S. Constitution granting a right to vote for President - yet he says that there is. The President is elected by the States.

Any sane judge would immediately toss these lawsuits on summary judgment and refer the attorneys who filed it to the bar association for review for possible sanctions.


31 posted on 02/21/2018 7:27:45 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Rurudyne

Cruz would be an interesting case since he was not actually born in the US with the other factors and having dual citizenship in Canada.

However, in general you are wrong. That is not what NBC meant at the time the term was written and it has been adjudicated several times which confirmed the same.


32 posted on 02/21/2018 7:32:20 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I would hope so, but we just had a judge claim for himself the full powers of the Presidency by ordering the President to reinstate an EXECUTIVE Order.


33 posted on 02/21/2018 7:33:10 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: tcrlaf

As a constitutional manner, the stated decide how to choose their electors. The Federal government does not get to dictate that.

Two states (Maine and Nebraska) use the district system, under which the statewide winner gets two electors and the rest are decided by Congressional district. Trump got one electoral vote from Maine.


34 posted on 02/21/2018 7:37:28 PM PST by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: tcrlaf

Article II, Section 1 states that “Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.”

IOW, states have complete authority to select their electors in any manner they choose.


35 posted on 02/21/2018 7:43:18 PM PST by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: Rurudyne

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If you’re seriously going to assert that there is a difference between citizen father and citizen mother, you can count on being laughede out of court.

You’re truly a head case.
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36 posted on 02/21/2018 9:21:17 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Publius

I like the proposal of dividing electoral votes based on congressional districts with the majority winner in each state getting the two additional votes for the senators. It would give conservatives in Illinois, New York and California a valid say in presidential elections. It also allows liberals in Texas and other GOP strongholds an equal say.


37 posted on 02/22/2018 5:35:57 AM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry (Progressivism is socialism. Venezuela is how it ends.)
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry; Publius

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What you suggest destroys the founders wall against democracy, placed in the constitution to prevent the tyranny of an agitated majority over the minority.

They saw the danger of an out of control press.
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38 posted on 02/22/2018 7:29:53 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

What I’m suggesting is what is already being done in Maine and Nebraska.


39 posted on 02/22/2018 8:45:02 AM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry (Progressivism is socialism. Venezuela is how it ends.)
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

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Its unlawful!


40 posted on 02/22/2018 11:12:01 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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