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Florida Scuttles Legislation That Could Actually Stop School Shootings
The Revolutionary Act ^ | 02/21/18

Posted on 02/21/2018 1:21:14 PM PST by Liberty7732

Emotions and empty platitudes have long been the field on which the anti-Second Amendment gun control crowd plays. And with wicked murders last week at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla., emotions are sky high — and that is usually bad for sound policy.

The emotions have brought out the predictable platitudes from the left-wing, including the insufferable John Kasich, about “common sense” gun legislation and “time to put aside our differences” and “standing up to the NRA.” Every one of those simply means: Do we what we say.

But now, the anti-gun agitators have taken the profound grief of young people and are using it as another tool for their agenda. The Parkland teens did not organize their protests on their own around the state and nation and their rally in Tallahassee as legislators were meeting. In fact, we now know that the same organizations behind the Women’s March are the ones organizing and funding these marches.

There is nothing grass roots there, just exploitative deep pockets from the left. Sheriff David Clarke sees on Twitter the destabilizing hand of George Soros in them, which would fit with the Women’s March.

And the media is broadcasting the times and dates of the marches like they are public service announcements, without an ounce of scrutiny.

All of this political fallout from the evil murders at the high school came during the Florida Legislature’s annual nine-week session.

And so, bowing to the emotions, platitudes and timing, some of the most fearless defenders of gun rights and reasoned thinking on the issue have pulled the only legislation that might actually have an impact on saving lives.

Senate Judiciary Chairman Greg Steube, a Sarasota Republican, has withdrawn legislation his committee was set to vote on that would have lifted the gun-free zones on schools and allowed school districts, with local discretion, to designate a concealed weapons permit holder to carry a gun on campus. Steube has worked tirelessly to allow similar gun laws on Florida colleges and in schools in previous years to help young people defend themselves from wicked rampagers. Generally, those did not make it out of committee.

This year was different with Steube chairing the committee and having apparent support for this legislation.

But the bill’s sponsor, Sen. Dennis Baxley, an Ocala Republican, said the timing was now wrong for holding a debate over what critics label an expansion of gun rights in Florida.

The Sarasota Herald-Tribune reported:

“I don’t think we’re ready for that discussion right now,” Baxley said. “I’m trying to solve a problem. Having a school as a gun-free zone, while well intentioned, makes it a sterile target. That would change if there was armed resistance.”

Baxley has another bill set to go Wednesday before the full Senate that would allow people to carry their concealed weapons to church, even if there was a school on the grounds. He said Monday that was still scheduled for debate.

“But whether it is brought up, is going to be up to leadership,” Baxley said.

And thus died the most reasonable, Constitutional steps that government could take to limit these shootings, once again demonstrating the axiom that liberals end up damaging the most, the very people they claim to want to help.


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1 posted on 02/21/2018 1:21:14 PM PST by Liberty7732
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To: Liberty7732
But the bill’s sponsor, Sen. Dennis Baxley, an Ocala Republican, said the timing was now wrong for holding a debate over what critics label an expansion of gun rights sanity in Florida.
2 posted on 02/21/2018 1:26:29 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: Liberty7732

It’s always fun to look at the political lunacy in history. So many of the decisions and laws can be described as “what were they thinking?!”

Historians will have a field day with the early 21st century. The jokes will write themselves for a thousand years. It’s called The Millennium Period.


3 posted on 02/21/2018 1:27:12 PM PST by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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To: Liberty7732

No it would of done nothing to stop school shootings. Guns are not the problem. Our unwillingness to deal rationally with the dangerously mentally ill is the problem.


4 posted on 02/21/2018 1:30:26 PM PST by MNJohnnie ("The political class is a bureaucracy designed to perpetuate itself" Rush Limbaugh)
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To: dirtboy

We need to stop making this arugment about guns. GUNS are not part of the problem.

Not having a rational legal system for dealing with the dangerously mental ill is the problem.


5 posted on 02/21/2018 1:31:57 PM PST by MNJohnnie ("The political class is a bureaucracy designed to perpetuate itself" Rush Limbaugh)
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To: MNJohnnie

Of course you are correct. Guns are not the problem. They are the solution.


6 posted on 02/21/2018 1:37:43 PM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: MNJohnnie

We had mentally ill for the entire nations history.

We had semi-automatic rifles for a hundred and ten years.

We have only had this jump up in rampage shootings since the media started making the perpetrators famous, in order to push the media’s Progressive anti-Second Amendment agenda.

The media has blood on its hands.

https://www.ammoland.com/2018/02/copycat-effect-the-media-has-blood-on-its-hands-in-florida-mass-murder/


7 posted on 02/21/2018 1:37:45 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Liberty7732

I’m watching the listening session with affected families from Douglas Stoneman in the WH.

Its deeply moved me because of the heartbreak these families have gone through. No parent should ever have to bury their child.

I disagree with the views of the children. But I understand where they’re coming from and I know about loss.

You have to watch it.


8 posted on 02/21/2018 1:37:57 PM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Forever))
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To: Liberty7732

As soon as the session was in they should have passed this. Should be operating under the premises never wait for a crisis to happen to mess up your legislation.


9 posted on 02/21/2018 1:38:24 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: MNJohnnie
We need to stop making this arugment about guns. GUNS are not part of the problem.

When I was in High School, in New Jersey, half the cars and trucks in our parking lot had guns in them during hunting season. Nobody ever got shot.

Guns aren't the problem.

Drugging kids in schools and turning them into violent, angry, zombies might be a good place to start looking for a reason.

10 posted on 02/21/2018 1:41:22 PM PST by pgkdan (The Silent Majority STILL Stands With TRUMP!)
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To: ealgeone

I’m not thinking about the politics.

I’m thinking about human feelings and on some level, it gets to us.

We can have all the laws we want but its ultimately a matter of right and wrong.

No law on earth can give us a conscience.


11 posted on 02/21/2018 1:42:52 PM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Forever))
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To: MNJohnnie

This is from a previous post that I
believe bears repeating.

There were 582 drug overdose deaths
in Broward county in 2016. Me thinks
these misdirected adolescents are
barking up the wrong tree.
Why aren’t these liberal miscreants
screaming and hollering to try and
stop a far more serious threat that
is killing our children?

Until the “mentally ill” issue
is addressed, every one of the
gun laws one may come up with
won’t make a bit of difference.


12 posted on 02/21/2018 1:45:12 PM PST by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: dirtboy

NOTHING will stop school shootings! Crazy is as Crazy does!


13 posted on 02/21/2018 1:47:33 PM PST by Renegade
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To: Lean-Right

Like I said, there are various solutions.

But its not on my mind now as I watch this extraordinary from the WH.


14 posted on 02/21/2018 1:48:36 PM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Forever))
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To: Liberty7732

Where does the Constitution say “the right to bear arms, EXCEPT in church and schools”.


15 posted on 02/21/2018 1:51:35 PM PST by Terry Mross (Liver spots And blood thinners..)
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To: Renegade
NOTHING will stop school shootings! Crazy is as Crazy does!

However, an armed presence at the school could significantly deter the carnage and act as a deterrent. As things stand now, a shooter can casually go from classroom to classroom for over ten minutes without fear of an armed response. That has to be shortened to less than a minute by having two armed teachers on every wing and floor.

16 posted on 02/21/2018 1:52:54 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: Terry Mross

God, what do you want me to say?

No words can restore what you have lost.

Our nation’s heart is with the families who have lost their loved ones at Stoneman Douglas.

Sometimes, its not a political issue. Not today when I’m hearing these people.


17 posted on 02/21/2018 1:55:08 PM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Forever))
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To: Liberty7732

Maybe they’re afraid a teacher or administrator would go berserk and start blasting away at kids.


18 posted on 02/21/2018 1:55:38 PM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: Liberty7732
Politicians bask in the horrendous fear that the threat of school shootings instills in the serfs who criminally commit their offspring to the government propaganda asylums...It is all a matter of control...

They are waging their war on the 2nd Amendment by promoting these horrific shootings to sway the serfs' opinion...

What is even more sickening is that the demoncrats & rinos don't give a second thought to Planned Parenthood's murderous operations within the Nation's high school systems or to the 6-to-10 black people that are murdered every weekend in Chicago...

Stalin was the master of "fear" and his demoncrat political descendants have learned the lesson well...

19 posted on 02/21/2018 1:57:12 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: dirtboy

Spot on. Armed well-trained teachers and staff, plus hardened access is the way to stop these shootings.


20 posted on 02/21/2018 1:59:44 PM PST by tschatski
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