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What’s the greatest risk to China’s economy? Look no further than its growing...
SCMP ^ | 16 February, 2018 | Peter Guy

Posted on 02/16/2018 8:37:56 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster

What’s the greatest risk to China’s economy? Look no further than its growing corporate and household debt

China has been one of the leading generators of debt since 2009, contributing to the latest worries over global inflation that have roiled markets

PUBLISHED : Friday, 16 February, 2018, 6:01pm

UPDATED : Friday, 16 February, 2018, 6:13pm

Few investors study history. And the ones that do, dismiss the lessons as being irrelevant for the current market. Predicting China’s upcoming economic collapse is a popular contrarian viewpoint, but it is not so easy to generate a convenient scenario if you look at data that is driving global inflation fears.

Credit is like a “ghost in the machine” for banks. It moves through their balance sheets and, ultimately, the markets without senior managers and traders knowing about the cumulative risk, lack of diversification and liquidity problems until it is too late. Much of the new technology being employed by globally and systemically important financial institutions since the global financial crisis along with new rules by BASEL is supposed to better capture and quantify risks.

But China represents a complex case of politically controlled banks whose concept of risk control is vastly different from their western counterparts. Examining the source of credit growth points to its possible future risks.

(Excerpt) Read more at scmp.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; debt; economy

1 posted on 02/16/2018 8:37:56 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; Jeff Head; Tainan; hedgetrimmer; Unam Sanctam; taxesareforever; Avenger; ...

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2 posted on 02/16/2018 8:38:29 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (dead parakeet + lost fishing gear = freep all day)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

From every 10 billion debt we make I hear China is generating like 100 billions itself

China is acting like a nation willingly pushing itself to insolvancy and packing up as much material goodies before it gets out and screws investors

We told these private companies they would nationalize and shut after a “crisis” scam, but they thought they were smarter


3 posted on 02/16/2018 8:41:00 AM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucifiedc)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Also: China’s Further Vulnerabilities.

Link: https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/02/chinas_further_vulnerabilities.html


4 posted on 02/16/2018 8:41:22 AM PST by CharlesMartelsGhost
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I am torn. I’d love the commies to get their comeuppance and stall their supposed challenge for global supremacy. However, the Chinese’s economy collapsing would be practically apocalyptic for the global economy, at least for a while.


5 posted on 02/16/2018 8:42:24 AM PST by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

From the South China Morning Press, and you believe what they say?


6 posted on 02/16/2018 8:45:43 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: TigerLikesRooster

What??? A Socialist government relying upon currency to run its economy?


7 posted on 02/16/2018 8:48:26 AM PST by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

How can debt really exist in a Communist dictatorship?
The Politburo can wipe it all away by decree. Is anyone really going to send bill collectors when they’re nuked-up?


8 posted on 02/16/2018 8:49:04 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: TigerLikesRooster

debt and printed money, created by central banks, is the death of the middle class everywhere


9 posted on 02/16/2018 8:50:14 AM PST by PGR88
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To: TigerLikesRooster

If the Deep Global State goes down, I expect massive global default on debt.

And I think it will ultimately be a good thing.


10 posted on 02/16/2018 8:51:28 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (The revolution will not be televised (at least, not by CNN).)
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To: Robert DeLong
They are not completely off-base in this case. I think they are downplaying the magnitude of Chinese debts, though. Other analysis says that their debt problem is more serious. So what part of this article do you not believe? Are we supposed to believe that it is the completely opposite and conclude that their economy is roaring with little debt?
11 posted on 02/16/2018 8:51:40 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (dead parakeet + lost fishing gear = freep all day)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

One very important issue that is not touched on in this article is China’s rapidly aging population. She is creating more debt burden for her future population which will be smaller. I have said repeatedly on FR that managing China’s decline will be much harder than managing her ascent...


12 posted on 02/16/2018 8:57:46 AM PST by fatez (Ya, well, you know, that's just your opinion man...)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I think their economy is not in nearly as peachy shape as they want us to believe.


13 posted on 02/16/2018 8:58:56 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

SCMP is based in Hong Kong and probably one the most creditble media outlets in the world. They do actual journalism.


14 posted on 02/16/2018 8:59:32 AM PST by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: fatez
Right. Their population is aging fast.

As for managing China's descent, it will lead to the breakup of the country. The prosperous region would refuse to carry the burden of propping up economically backward region when they themselves are struggling. Some regions would fare OK while other parts of China could be hit with severe economic problems.

15 posted on 02/16/2018 9:06:42 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (dead parakeet + lost fishing gear = freep all day)
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To: Vigilanteman

The SCMP is based in Hong Kong, but the ownership is for China.

Just be aware of that. Unlike American journalists please do not confuse journalists from other countries. They are very much for the own countries.


16 posted on 02/16/2018 9:17:53 AM PST by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: cba123
What you say is true, but Hong Kong and the SCMP is allowed a degree of independence and practices actual journalism. The Straight Times (Singapore) may be one of the few in Asia which does it better.

You are not going to find a media outlet in Asia which cheerleads for the enemy the way America's mainstream news outlets do. Even the Asahi group, the most leftwing of Japan mainstream outlets doesn't go that far. For that matter, neither does the Akahata, official organ of the Japan Communist Party.

17 posted on 02/16/2018 9:28:10 AM PST by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

How in the world can you talk about China as some sort of shrinking violet?

China is completely dominating. Even our own American companies are sold out. That is the worst part. American companies are helping China dominate.

While “Russia” is allegedly some sort of issue.

China is growing, and growing very strongly.


18 posted on 02/16/2018 5:33:53 PM PST by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: cba123
It hasn't shrunk yet, but it will. It is a structural problem they cannot avoid.

In the meantime, they have huge cash reserve they can throw around. That will do great damage.

19 posted on 02/16/2018 6:15:46 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (dead parakeet + lost fishing gear = freep all day)
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