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US report confirms nine Abrams tanks ended up with Iranian-backed militias in Iraq
Kurdistan24 ^ | 2018/02/07 | Baxtiyar Goran

Posted on 02/07/2018 7:31:40 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster

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To: TigerLikesRooster

Its OK, everyone still got paid.


21 posted on 02/07/2018 9:23:46 PM PST by PGR88
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To: rbg81
Do they have the spare parts? And the expertise to fix them?

They managed to keep some F-14s flying, though what good they were, who knows?

22 posted on 02/07/2018 10:31:08 PM PST by doorgunner69 (Give me the liberty to take care of my own security..........)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I pray for the Kurd People every day. The only semblance of Law in the Middle East.

May Jews, Christians and every denomination protect the Kurd from extreme Islam.

Erdogan believed in Obama, he is now flat footed thinking Hillary would win.

Just another ignorant tyrant and leftist fool.


23 posted on 02/07/2018 10:31:58 PM PST by Djl3668 (Z11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honor and power: for thou hast created all things)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Obama, making our enemies great again...


24 posted on 02/07/2018 11:22:28 PM PST by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: Robert A Cook PE

They were export models and the Russians have already seen those through the Egyptians. Egypt buys Russian aircraft and American tanks. Russia has no need for another one.


25 posted on 02/08/2018 12:08:52 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Having spent ten years working on the Abrams tank I can fill you in on few fun facts. They need maintenance and the parts GD made are colossally expensive. However, the Koreans stole the entire data package and sell the same parts significantly cheaper and to anybody.

Incidentally, their are two reasons GD’s parts are so expensive. One is, no competition, so there is no incentive to make them cheaper. And, Two, the contracts are larded up with social agenda things like maintaining a diversity program. ISO-9000, the required quality standard, is also a multi-million dollar gift to consultants when Mil-9858 worked just fine.

It won’t be easy to copy the armor. But copying the electronics will be easy. It’s all old school.


26 posted on 02/08/2018 2:44:40 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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For all I know, ISO-9000 sounds like a bunch of social engineering package.
27 posted on 02/08/2018 3:42:56 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (dead parakeet + lost fishing gear = freep all day)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
They cannot maintain them without Western help - esp. the Abrams, gas turbine engine and all.
Arabs depend on American and British civ's to maintain all of their weapons systems - minus that they are just hunks of metal.
28 posted on 02/08/2018 3:45:17 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

“For all I know, ISO-9000 sounds like a bunch of social engineering package. “

The theory sounds good; say what you do, do what you say and prove it. In practice, the way it is implemented, it’s more important for upper management not to get a “finding” than it is to produce products that meet the requirement. So, the whole process gets diluted. For example, because GD never trained anybody to do anything, workers often didn’t know what document they were supposedly following. They were simply sat at a table and told by somebody what to do. That results in a “finding” which directly subtracts bonus money from high level management. Instead of dozens of say-what-you-do documents, they reduced them all to one document which essentially said nothing. As long as you were following a document, even though it was not helpful in any way, you don’t get a finding. Gradually, a good quality system was reduced to useless garbage. But bonuses as the top are GREAT! Millions of dollars are paid out yearly to consultants who come in and don’t find “findings.”

As far as management is concerned, this is much better than the old quality system that frequently stopped non-conforming product from shipping.


29 posted on 02/08/2018 4:04:13 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: doorgunner69

They managed to keep some F-14s flying, though what good they were, who knows?


Yeah. I’m thinking the computers/electronics would be the hardest things to fix. You might be able to keep the tank moving and firing for a while, but it would not be nearly as accurate.


30 posted on 02/08/2018 4:11:45 AM PST by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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To: Gen.Blather
What is the deal with “empowering employees?”
31 posted on 02/08/2018 4:13:31 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (dead parakeet + lost fishing gear = freep all day)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

“What is the deal with “empowering employees?” “

Corporations are as fashion conscious as teenage girls. They clothe themselves in the latest corporate fashions. GD got what is called a 360 degree review package. That’s where the employees get to rate the managers. The package was very expensive. They had it modified so that no employee could rate a supervisor.

As our division financially imploded I presented my boss with several well thought out proposals to turn the situation around. Finally, in disgust, he threw one in my face and yelled, “We don’t have an employee suggestion system. That’s because we don’t give a crap about what you think!” (I got a paper cut and a lesson.)


32 posted on 02/08/2018 4:18:38 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: TigerLikesRooster

“US report confirms nine Abrams tanks ended up with Iranian-backed militias in Iraq”

Aha, just as Obama planned it! Next thing you know the Iranians will have a bunch of our B 2’s with nuclear weapons.

PS. How do you lose a tank?


33 posted on 02/08/2018 4:34:32 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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“US report confirms nine Abrams tanks ended up with Iranian-backed militias in Iraq”

Aha, just as Obama planned it! Next thing you know the Iranians will have a bunch of our B 2’s with nuclear weapons.

PS. How do you lose a tank?


34 posted on 02/08/2018 4:34:32 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: vooch

“McCain is wondering why the fuss”

McCain is wondering who AM I? Where am I? What’s this warm/wet feeling in my drawers?


35 posted on 02/08/2018 4:39:45 AM PST by faucetman (Ju"st the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Gen.Blather

So much for our Korean friends.


36 posted on 02/08/2018 5:14:27 AM PST by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
US report confirms nine Abrams tanks ended up with Iranian-backed militias in Iraq.

Shouldn't be hard to find if the morons try to use them.

Should be fun to rescue the tanks, each surrounded by a few acres of koranimal body parts...

Go! A-10s...!

37 posted on 02/08/2018 8:49:59 AM PST by publius911 (Am I pissed? You have NO idea...)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
A quarterly inspector general report for the US mission in Iraq and Syria, released on Feb. 2, confirms that M1 Abrams battle tanks and other lethal equipment provided to the Iraqi government [by the treasonous muslim illegitimate U.S. president, Barack Hussein Obama, while in Washington,] have ended up with the Hashd al-Shaabi, also known as the Popular Mobilization Forces (PMF).

There. Fixed it.

38 posted on 02/08/2018 8:56:02 AM PST by publius911 (Am I pissed? You have NO idea...)
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To: ExTxMarine
Now would be a really good time to see if the A-10 can do as much damage to an American made M1 Abrams, as they do to foreign tanks!!

No way! Each of those puppies cost us $7 million.

Better to locate them, give our commandos and Special Forces AND A-10s experience in obliterating the camps or towns where they are found, and seriously depleting the supply of ugly koranimal virgins by several tens of thousands...

Volunteers for the rescue would work best.

39 posted on 02/08/2018 9:11:06 AM PST by publius911 (Am I pissed? You have NO idea...)
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