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Senate Democrats Kill Bill to Keep Government Open Past Midnight
The New York Times ^ | 19 Jan 2018 | Sheryl Gay Stolberg and Thomas Kaplan

Posted on 01/19/2018 8:01:47 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: VideoDoctor

Schumer trying to call it the Trump shutdown.

Evil man.


41 posted on 01/19/2018 9:32:12 PM PST by Blogger
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To: Blogger

Twitter is trying to push this as well. No way, this is #SchumerShutdown


42 posted on 01/19/2018 9:34:48 PM PST by Reno89519 (PRESIDENT TRUMP, KEEP YOUR PROMISES! NO AMNESTY AND BUILD THAT WALL.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Do congress and staff still get paid?


43 posted on 01/19/2018 10:07:12 PM PST by rrrod (just an old guy with a gun in his pocke)
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To: chaser64

pluz - the Feds only need to cut costs by 10% and they run positive cash flow.

It’s a common everyday activity in the productive sector of the economy. It’s nuthn’


44 posted on 01/19/2018 10:18:15 PM PST by vooch (America First Drain the Swamp)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; alloysteel; stevem; vette6387; combat_boots; Vlad The Inhaler; Salvation; ...
Democratic obstruction on behalf of illegal causing imminent shutdown of U.S. government at midnight.


45 posted on 01/19/2018 10:57:53 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

I’m overseas and rely on Armed Forces Network (AFN) and the Schumer shut down has stated on all channels. “Due to the government shutdown, AFN services are not available. Dems sticking to us in the military.


46 posted on 01/19/2018 11:27:26 PM PST by OKITRUMP77
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To: Enchante

LOL now that will trigger the snowflakes who think that money just appears out of nowhere, magically.


47 posted on 01/19/2018 11:41:13 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: All

The Slimes got the memo..

changed that headline...

Frickin Propagandists.


48 posted on 01/20/2018 2:53:35 AM PST by rbmillerjr (Reagan conservative: All 3 Pillars)
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To: alloysteel

Shumer is in a completely safe Senate seat. He is absolutely indifferent to any consequence


49 posted on 01/20/2018 4:09:28 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Vlad The Inhaler
Democrats march in lockstep together better than the NAZIs did.

Five Democrats voted for the budget bill. Five Republicans voted against it, though McConnell's "no" vote was just so he could bring it up for consideration again and not because he was against it. So it looks like neither side were in lockstep.

50 posted on 01/20/2018 4:12:21 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: impimp
Trump essentially controls spending when there is a shutdown. He will manage it well.

How?

51 posted on 01/20/2018 4:15:29 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: rrrod
Do congress and staff still get paid?

Yes.

52 posted on 01/20/2018 4:16:35 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Im really PO’d


53 posted on 01/20/2018 4:21:18 AM PST by rrrod (just an old guy with a gun in his pocke)
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To: 11th_VA

I heard Paul and Lee also voted “Nay”...some would say they voted their conscience because they knew it wouldn’t pass anyway and I say they should have voted “Yea” because it wasn’t going to pass anyway - that would have left not even a smidgen of doubt it is all on the Dems heads...


54 posted on 01/20/2018 4:22:33 AM PST by trebb (I stopped picking on the mentally ill hypocrites who pose as conservatives......;-))
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To: rrrod
Im really PO’d

Can't expect Congress and its minions to be restrained by the same laws as the rest of us, can you?

55 posted on 01/20/2018 4:28:47 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation; ExTexasRedhead; SaveFerris; LS; Jim Robinson; MayflowerMadam; ...
I know a bit about how government works. I not only worked in Washington DC, (including the Pentagon) - I was an active duty officer, pilot, and I also worked budget issues in DC and once taught a course on it.

There are several things now in play, and a few "options" now "available" to Trump. I am 100% certain he know these and will use them to his advantage.

1. The media is going to go ballistic on Trump, saying he mi-spoke that the military will "shutdown." They think they can corner him with rhetoric because the US military is the ONE Federal agency that really matter. Watch them try to mislead the public, and say that "funding doesn't stop" and the "military is not being hurt." It is being hurt, not only by the shutdown, but by the Continuing Resolutions (CRs) that the military has been force to operate under because there is no, and has been no, budget.

2. During a shutdown, Trump's options are hindered, but also multiplied in some ways. The military (and those Federal civilians deemed "essential") will work without pay. BUT - he as head of the Executive Branch will have wide latitude regarding which agencies do what - and this is his biggest ace. Watch what he does, and how he does it. Garbage agencies (EEOC, HUD, Dept of Education, EPA, etc.) should not only be not funded, they should be hurt. Those that do work and do good and have many employees and a mission loyal to the Constitution (DoD, Border Patrol, DHS) should be managed and assisted.

3. If the military is to be paid during the shutdown, that will require Congressional approval, but that was done in 2013 with a simple paragraph. I know, I saw it. Ryan and McConnell can draft one up and have a vote - and anyone who votes against it can be nailed to the wall politically.

4. Don't listen to the rabid wolves that want to punish ALL Federal employees. Not only does this not help our cause (Liberty, the Constitution, the military, bringing the guilty to justice), their salaries are budget dust compared to the grand scheme of things. Moreover, it makes us look petty and childish. Many Federal employees do good work. To the Orcs cheering their demise, cut it out and get over it.




5. You will hear the word (in the media and blogs) that certain Federal civilians are deemed "Nonessential." That isn't the word used anymore. There are two categories: "Excepted" and "Non-Excepted." They mean the same thing as essential and nonessential. But don't get caught up in this. Even in agencies, the distinction is VERY arbitrary. A very good person doing good work may be put into the wrong category. Chaos reigns during this process. It is what it is.

6. Washington DC (especially Congress) is where Drama Queens excel. ALL OF THIS IS DRAMA.

7. I don't think the main thing motivating the Democrats is simply immigration. I think they fear much else. DACA is an excuse. Harming the military (and preventing their protection) may be a real aim. So is an attempt at slowing justice.

56 posted on 01/20/2018 4:31:55 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: SkyPilot
I don't think Democrats' motivation is simply immigration. DACA is an excuse for a shutdown. Harming the military may be a real aim. So is an attempt at slowing justice as the FISA/dossier crimes unravel.

True enough but in the last analysis.......gaining more power and seats in 2018 is at the
tippity-top of the list. The sweat beads of desperation on their foreheads is quite evident.

57 posted on 01/20/2018 4:47:22 AM PST by Liz (Our side has 8 Trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: SkyPilot

The Democrats committed treason, murder, and now sedition.

Soon, thirty million Americans will come to Congress
with pitchforks and end this travesty.


58 posted on 01/20/2018 4:54:52 AM PST by Diogenesis
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To: Diogenesis

Conservatives have shown them selves to be apathetic and downright lazy when it comes to activism.

It will not happen


59 posted on 01/20/2018 4:57:07 AM PST by Thibodeaux (2018 is looking good)
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To: Liz
gaining more power and seats in 2018 is at the tippity-top of the list

True - but as I warned before on this forum, the Tax Law will hurt us regarding the 34 GOP House Republicans in states where this was punative.



I have never seen the Federal Government take such a stand as to hurt millions of Americans. If you want people on your side, don't make them spend thousands of dollars (right after the holidays no less) in order to try to avoid being screwed by the IRS. And we are rewarding Apple, Google, and Facebook at the expense of hard working Americans? This was POLITICAL MADNESS.

60 posted on 01/20/2018 5:33:06 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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