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CNN's Epic Meltdown Over Trump's 'S**thole Countries' Remark Was A Sight To Behold ^ | January 12, 2018 | Matt Vespa

Posted on 01/12/2018 6:39:50 PM PST by Kaslin

It doesn’t take much to set off the media. It really doesn’t. Last night, the entire media establishment went into full meltdown mode because the president reportedly asked why are we allowing people from ‘sh*thole countries’ to come here. This is anonymously sourced. It really hasn’t been verified, and no—Dick Durbin is not a credible source, having lied about White House meetings before. Regardless, CNN blew a gasket. Anderson Cooper cried, Chris Cuomo decided to take this lecture to the white board, and Don Lemon’s program was off the hinges.

Vulgar CNN: Trump's 'S***hole' Quote Shows He's Clearly 'Racist'

"Let me be clear tonight. The people of Haiti have been through more... withstood more -- they've fought back against more injustice than our President ever has." Anderson Cooper choked back tears as he reflected on the devastating quake nearly 8 years ago— CNN (@CNN) January 12, 2018

So for those keeping track of those who were in Trump mtg:
Durbin: Trump said "shithole" countries
Graham: publicly silent, but confirmed comments to Tim Scott
McCarthy: Silent
Goodlatte: Silent
Diaz-Balart: Skirts comments in stmt
Cotton: Does not recall
Perdue: Does not recall— Manu Raju (@mkraju) January 12, 2018

CNN’s Cooper and Jim Acosta called the remarks racist (via The Hill):

CNN anchor Anderson Cooper slammed President Trump for reportedly referring to Haiti and several African nations as "shithole countries" on Thursday, calling the remarks "racist."

In a monologue delivered on "Anderson Cooper 360," the CNN host said it was important for members of the news media to point out that Trump's remarks were not "racially charged" or offensive, but rather "racist."

"The president of the United States is tired of so many black people coming to this country. Tired of immigrants from Haiti and Africa being allowed in," Cooper said, reading comments from Trump as reported by The Washington Post.

"Tired of Haitians and Africans, the president went on to say he would like to bring more people from countries like Norway. Norway, whose population is overwhelmingly of Nordic descent. White people, in other words," Cooper said.

What is happening on CNN ??— king crissle (@crissles) January 12, 2018

Philip Mudd, a former CIA counterterrorism official, decided to blast Trump’s alleged racism by using racist dialogue to describe every demographic in America, as if that helps move the conversation forward. Former RNC Chairman Michael Steele said Trump was racist. Don Lemon was quite clear on that front last night as well (via Free Beacon):

The President of the United States is racist," Lemon said. "A lot of us already knew that."

Lemon's opening comments come on the heels of reporting that Trump asked during an Oval Office meeting Thursday why the United States is allowing people from "s—hole countries"–referencing Haiti, El Salvador, and African countries–to immigrate to America.

Lemon called the remarks "disgusting."

"But you know what? They’re not shocking, not even really surprising because this is who Donald Trump is. This is what he thinks," Lemon added.

Lemon then went into, what he classified as, past examples of Trump being a racist, and then asked "do I need to go on? I get tired of saying it."

After relaying that some at the White House felt Trump's reported remarks could help him with his base, Lemon muttered, "Jesus."

Chris Cuomo was, well, this:

In case you’re wondering how @CNN is doing:— Storm Paglia (@storm_paglia) January 12, 2018

Again, we don’t know if this was actually uttered during the immigration negotiations. Durbin says one thing, Graham confirms it, but Sens. Cotton (R-AR) and Perdue (R-GA) don’t recall the “sh*thole” comment being said. Given the news media’s track record in reporting on this White House, err on the side of caution. Yet, let’s be honest. The news media thinks Trump has been racist for a long time. Now, they can rehash it. You can tell by the grin Mr. Lemon had on his face when he opened his show. That theme carried throughout his program, an appalling snobby, and condescending display that is the reason why so many Trump supporters stick with the Donald. It also forced a lot of conservative Republicans on the fence about Trump to vote for him. They may not like him, but when you embody the insufferable self-righteousness that infests our newsrooms today, calling us bigots for merely disagreeing with the liberal point of view, yeah you bet I’ll vote for Trump (and I did).

The second part is the disingenuous parameters of this discussion. It is a fact that some countries are better than others. Sorry folks, Somalia is a failed state (there's another word for it too) and Norway is not. Katie wrote earlier today that a West African sociologist admitted that the whole continent, not just temporary protected status nations or the ones listed in Trump's executive order on immigration, is “sh*t.”

Something amazing just happened on Twitter dot com— Ben Domenech (@bdomenech) January 12, 2018

Hitting closer to home, North Korea is a communist hellhole, but South Korea is a vibrant, flourishing modern economy. It’s part of the G-20. They can compete with most European nations. It’s just better. There are countries that are just sh*tholes. It’s the way of the world. And please, if you had to choose between Norway and Haiti, you would choose the former, not this weak sauce response from Joan Walsh last night:

I’m sorry; we’ve heard that Trump has been racist for months. This is just another example of his blunt, and at times, overt political incorrectness. And I don’t trust the media to tell me what is racist and what is not anymore. They’ve actually managed to kill its meaning. Remember when saying Chicago was supposedly a dog whistle. So, let’s go to an area of agreement, leaving out the noise. 

We are a nation of immigrants. I’m an emigrant, being adopted at four months from South Korea. I became a citizen a couple years later. My father’s business—a window manufacturing empire, or at least it was in my mind—was built on the backs of Hispanic immigrants. It allowed me to go to college and graduate without any debt, something for which I am very grateful for. The same goes for my brother and sister, and all three of us were privately educated from lower school through high school. Manufacturing was very good to the Vespa clan.

I worked in my dad’s glass plant for a couple summers in the sweltering heat; the glass oven was heated at 900 degrees, so you can imagine what it was like in the middle of August. I won’t lie. It was great. And believe me, I had a hefty beer account for when fall semester began. These people work hard. After the closing bell, these workers left my dad’s factory to work another job. I think the point here is that people can come from sh*thole countries and become good citizens. That’s what The Federalist’s Ben Domenech touched upon, which is embodied in former President Calvin Coolidge’s ethos about us as a nation. At the same time, he admits that Haiti is a total sh*thole; he’s been there twice:

Calvin Coolidge on who we are.— Ben Domenech (@bdomenech) January 12, 2018

Let’s be clear about one thing here: Haiti is a shithole. I’ve been there twice. It has a cholera epidemic thanks to the United Nations and a burgeoning child sex trafficking problem thanks to the predilections of evil people. It is really a hellish place. But the whole point of the temporary status welcoming immigrants from these countries is based on them being real shitholes – places so dangerous and awful that we won’t send refugees from them back to the countries because they’ll probably die, or worse. That’s the whole point of granting this policy in the first place.

When this story broke yesterday, people immediately seized upon it as indicative of the president’s racism. That’s wrong – contra Noah Rothman, who maintained without any basis whatsoever that Trump was referring to the entire African continent as opposed to those nations covered by TPS, I’m sure Trump knows the difference between Somalia and Egypt and would not refer to them in the same way. Fresh from his Asia tour late last year, he has no such insults to direct toward those countries. But for those eager to tag him as a white supremacist – as an opinion editor of the Washington Post did yesterday – this was an easy opportunity to do so.

The problem emerges when you actually deal with the question at hand. Witness this back and forth on CNN, where Joan Walsh was caught flat footed when Rich Lowry asks if she’d rather live in Haiti or Norway.  This is an easy question, and pretending otherwise doesn’t help matters. Anti-immigration appetites are fed when people are unwilling to admit the truth about what they are arguing.


In this case, I’d gladly argue that America has the potential to take people from shithole countries and turn them into great Americans. In fact, America has been doing this for a very long time.

That being said, if you want to come to America and work, the door is open. But you have to come here legally. We’re a nation of laws. Illegal aliens are deported. Period. This shouldn’t be an issue and neither should ICE agents being allowed to do their jobs. Far too often we’ve heard tragic stories of families suffering unspeakable tragedy, usually an illegal murdering a loved one that could have been avoided if that person wasn’t here. One of those stories is Laura Wilkerson, whose son Josh was brutally tortured, tied up, beaten to death, and then set on fire in 2010 by Hermilo Vildo Moralez, an illegal alien from Belize

Kate Steinle is another tragic example. Ben Shapiro of the Daily Wire was blunt; Trump is president because illegal aliens are committing crimes and re-entering at will. And it hits close to home, where I live in Virginia, where MS-13 is running rampant. You can be pro-immigration and for a strong border, while supporting federal authorities enforce our immigration laws. Democrats do not see it that way. In fact, even noted anti-Trump media personality and scholar Fareed Zakaria, who is not a hard-core conservative, said that the Democratic Party has swung to the extreme on immigration. Why? Because the Democratic Party has been taken over by urban-based self-righteous elites. 

Before we go, again, this holier than this attitude the media has on this is appalling. I know par for the course, but let’s not kid around here; the news media and the liberal elites have described parts of America that are economically depressed as sh*tholes. Former President Barack Obama criticized former UK Prime Minister for turning Libya into a “sh*t show.” Does that make him racially insensitive? Also, he’s right—Libya is another hellhole nation. 

I wish the media were as upset over millions of middle class Americans called “deplorable” for not supporting Hillary as they are over the alleged “crapholes” remark.— Dana Loesch (@DLoesch) January 12, 2018

“shithole” is definitely a term I’ve heard elites use to describe socioeconomically dilapidated areas of the United States— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) January 12, 2018

Is this a problematic statement by the president? Was it just salty language used in a negotiation in which he meant the TPS countries, offering a rough and certainly not eloquent description? All of this based on second hand accounts mind you and none of the people privy to this meeting can agree that he said it. 

Despite the aggressive coverage of these remarks, Trump isn’t going anywhere. He will be president tomorrow. The Access Hollywood tape that was leaked in October of 2015, which catches Trump making graphic remarks about women from a 2005 appearance on the show, was much worse than this remark. Trump will survive it. 

Second, it could muddy the chances of a deal on immigration being hashed out prior to the next week when the government runs out of money. This is politics, folks. It could get nasty. Democrats probably didn’t want to do a deal from the outset, with congressional Republicans equally skeptical. I hope we do have a deal, but idealism and the notion that good can be done in Washington D.C. often ends at the edges of the Potomac. 

Think what you will of the president’s remarks. I’m of the opinion that you can be for immigration enforcement, while providing a path for people who want to work and live here to enter legally. Could the president have used better language? Of course, Obama could have done the same as well. In the meantime, let the media steam, in which case I know they will not dwell on that they’re partially responsible for this situation. Yeah, does anyone remember when they gave Trump $2 billion in free media? So spare us the lectures. 

Your reminder that the very networks up in arms tonight about what Trump said profited greatly while giving Trump almost TWO BILLION DOLLARS in free airtime during the 2016 campaign.

They gave Trump 163% of the free airtime they gave the other 13 GOP candidates *combined.*— Josh Jordan (@NumbersMuncher) January 12, 2018


UPDATE: Hillary Clinton weighed in; I’m not so sure that’s a good idea. 

The anniversary of the devastating earthquake 8 years ago is a day to remember the tragedy, honor the resilient people of Haiti, & affirm America’s commitment to helping our neighbors. Instead, we‘re subjected to Trump’s ignorant, racist views of anyone who doesn’t look like him.— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) January 12, 2018

TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: cnn; illegalaliens; illegalimmigrants; illegalimmigration; immigration; leftwingmedia; libmediabias; presidenttrump
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1 posted on 01/12/2018 6:39:50 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

CNN is the s-hole of the American media.

2 posted on 01/12/2018 6:43:30 PM PST by miserare ( Hillary--you lost! Get over it!!)
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To: Kaslin

Do you all know what liberals hate more than anything..hearing the TRUTH..they can’t stand it..blood literally comes out of their ears

3 posted on 01/12/2018 6:45:12 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Kaslin

Listened to Durbin press conference. The only reference to Haiti was why are we taking so many people from there? Followed by a claim Trump referred to certain African countries as shitholes. All this blathering about the SH question is manufactured. Never happened.

4 posted on 01/12/2018 6:45:49 PM PST by Williams (Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

And that is factual

5 posted on 01/12/2018 6:46:11 PM PST by Kaslin (Quid est Veritas?: What Is Truth?)
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6 posted on 01/12/2018 6:46:17 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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I’m just curious what does race have to do with a country being poor, corrupt, and dysfunctional?

Granted the nation of Haiti is almost entirely black and its ethnicity, (I guess they don’t take in very many immigrants themselves.) Although it might have something to do with the fact that when the country was founded the revolting black slaves literally killed off every white person they could find.

But all of that really doesn’t matter in so much that their recent and past governments of themselves has been extraordinarily corrupt and dysfunctional.

7 posted on 01/12/2018 6:48:26 PM PST by Monorprise
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Lest anyone forget that the rules are always different for Democrats.
On Mar 10, 2016, Barack Obama criticised David Cameron for the UK’s role in allowing Libya to become a “sh!t show” after the fall of the dictator Muammar Gaddafi. Hmmmm.

8 posted on 01/12/2018 6:50:41 PM PST by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning.)
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Or the time the President called Libya a “Shit show”? OH WAIT! THAT WAS OBAMA!

9 posted on 01/12/2018 6:51:27 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Kaslin

They were hyperventilating, weren’t they? ROFL

10 posted on 01/12/2018 6:51:34 PM PST by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Note to all foreigners: Please.....GET OUT and STAY OUT!)
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SB, you know what's really funny and sad? These elites will never have to deal with the consequences of these people if they were allowed to stay.

They care about Haiti and other 3rd world countries to the extent where they can be dependable votes for the Democrats and Ruling Class and redistribute wealth from white taxpayers. That's it. They don't care about their actual welfare or well-being. If Haitians start robbing or committing crimes, who cares? The elites are protected by armed guards and wrought-iron gates.

That's why this whole DACA issue is a total, pathetic joke. I was open to legalizing (on a case-by-case basis) DACA folks just as long as Trump's wish list was enacted. But to Hell with it. Deport all of them

11 posted on 01/12/2018 6:52:01 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (God Bless Attorney General Jeff Sessions! Thank You!)
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12 posted on 01/12/2018 6:53:09 PM PST by HotHunt
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To: Sarah Barracuda
...blood literally comes out of their ears

And their whatever.

Don't forget the whatever.

13 posted on 01/12/2018 6:53:33 PM PST by bagster (Even bad men love their mamas.)
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They sure were.
14 posted on 01/12/2018 6:55:26 PM PST by Kaslin (Quid est Veritas?: What Is Truth?)
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15 posted on 01/12/2018 6:55:40 PM PST by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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To: Kaslin

Don Lemon is an unusually nasty gay queen. Trump also hurt his widdew fewings when he announced that Queen Don is “the dumbest man on television.” LMAO

16 posted on 01/12/2018 6:56:56 PM PST by RooRoobird20 ("Democrats haven't been this angry since Republicans freed the slaves.")
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The fact I see out there is that it’s terribly difficult to care in an educated way without being narrow and vicious. This needs a heartful of God, not just isolated convenient facts with which to come to a mutual back patting session in FR. As otherwise God will see and may well say and grant “They deserve one another.”

17 posted on 01/12/2018 6:58:15 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: Kaslin

Best election ever. Think of missing this CNN meltdown and having to watch Hillary on TV every day bragging about her accomplishments.

18 posted on 01/12/2018 6:59:15 PM PST by anton
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I’m almost certain that Haiti has had a cannibal as head of state more recently than the US.

19 posted on 01/12/2018 7:04:13 PM PST by CrazyIvan (Honk If You've Been Sexually Assaulted By Harvey Weinstein.)
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To: RooRoobird20

I’d fear the Lord and realize that the supposedly virtuous right has let its mind be dragged into the gutter.

Perhaps that is how Satan lets the right win battles but lose wars. By getting a stealthily polluted mind.

Donald refrained from using the alleged word in his tweet about the matter. If Satan mucks up a place, he can pretty well count on our modern right to be his ad council.

20 posted on 01/12/2018 7:05:48 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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