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Climate Change in My Backyard
New York Times ^ | January 11. 2018 | By LEAH C. STOKES

Posted on 01/12/2018 8:59:43 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: Oldeconomybuyer
We know that climate change is making California’s extreme rainfall events more frequent. We know it’s worsening our fires. We know that it contributed substantially to the latest drought.

"We" don't "know" any such thing, sweetheart.

41 posted on 01/12/2018 9:29:37 AM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: headstamp 2
Get it right.

She's an "assistant" professor.

That's one click below being a real airhead. :-)

Looks like she just got out of middle school.

42 posted on 01/12/2018 9:29:43 AM PST by HotHunt
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To: HiTech RedNeck

LOL, great reference...!!!


43 posted on 01/12/2018 9:30:12 AM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette.)
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To: Lizavetta

“Who believes these idiots?”

Other (and dumber) idiots?


44 posted on 01/12/2018 9:31:45 AM PST by Liberal Anti Venom (Freedom exists not to do what you like, but having the right to do what you ought. ~John Paul II~)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Because there never were fires, droughts and floods in California before....


45 posted on 01/12/2018 9:35:26 AM PST by Rebelbase (The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it.-- H.L. Mencken)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“half an inch in five minutes.”

Rainfall has been measured and cataloged for a long time. So this can be quantified and compared.

First, a half inch in 5 minutes is a rate of 6 inches per hour, and the “Time of Concentration” is 5 minutes.

The manual in the link below is from 1975. Page 251 of the .pdf/229 of the document shows Santa Barbara County. I can tell from the chart that 6 in/hr with a 5 minute Time of Concentration is almost the 25 year rain event...meaning that the odds of such a storm occurring are 4% in any given year, and can be expected to happen once in a 25 year period. Again, this manual is from 1975, and these charts come from historical data.

Conclusion: While the author may be less than 25 years old, and she may never had seen such a rainfall, such rainfalls have occurred in Santa Barbara in the past, and should not be viewed as extraordinary at all.

http://www.water.ca.gov/waterdatalibrary/docs/historic/Bulletins/Bulletin_195/Bulletin_195-Vol_3__1976.pdf


46 posted on 01/12/2018 9:35:35 AM PST by lacrew
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To: LouieFisk

“That guy might be a nice looking young fella if he got a haircut.”

Hey, lay off of that pretty young lady.

Regarding the fires, a former California forester called Rush a few weeks ago and said the management of forests has been cut back over recent years, resulting in a dangerous amount of surplus flammable forest materials. He said prisoners used to be brought up to help with clearing but that was ended and the ranger workforce reduced.


47 posted on 01/12/2018 9:36:01 AM PST by cymbeline
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

In 1969 my house in Glendale, California was hit by a mudslide. The staircase to the upper floor was totally washed out. Fortunately, my mother and I were upstairs and a neighbor was able to bring a ladder to extricate us. Three other houses in our subdivision were destroyed that day in separate mudslides.

Floods and mudslides are a fact of life for the way people build in California. Of course, like most young people, if it didn’t happen while they were alive, then it didn’t happen.

“I’ve been studying climate change . . .” Read: “I’ve been chowing down on all the climate nonsense that’s been written in the last 20 years.”


48 posted on 01/12/2018 9:39:20 AM PST by the_Watchman
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
We know that climate change is making California’s extreme rainfall events more frequent. We know it’s worsening our fires. We know that it contributed substantially to the latest drought.

California has and will and always have droughts and extreme rainfall events, this is part and parcel of living in a state that runs from desert to Mediterranean to Alpine and everything in between. There is nothing new about the current weather pattern in California.

What is worsening our fires are foolish policies that have been proven dangerous that make the clearing of underbrush illegal, blocks the clearing and harvesting of dead timber so that huge quantities of tinder dry fuel is banked and above all mentally ill and irresponsible people that start fires either intentionally or through careless actions.

I, we, all of us have Climate Change in My Backyard, it's called WEATHER!

49 posted on 01/12/2018 9:42:30 AM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

BWAAHAHAHAHAHA! What an idiot! Climate change intelligence from a PolySci grad. Calling Bill Nye!


50 posted on 01/12/2018 9:48:44 AM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

There was great climate change in my bathroom this morning, right after I took my hot shower! Ohnoz ohnoz ohnoz!!!

And, well, most women (and proggies) are not intellectually past age 12. All emotions and feelings, precious little logic and reason. MGTOW. Flame away /;)


51 posted on 01/12/2018 9:51:01 AM PST by polymuser (Its terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged today. - Chesterton)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Me too, me too!

Yesterday it was nice and warm, bout 60 degrees

an now... Lo n Behold its freezing and bout to snow.

How does that four-eye liberal gal gee-knee-us figger this stuff out?!?!


52 posted on 01/12/2018 9:52:48 AM PST by Gasshog ( Fight climate change - Try beating the air and scream at the sky)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
There is a clear climate signature in the disaster in Santa Barbara.

From USA Today: VENTURA, Calif. — Three lawsuits filed in Ventura County Superior Court allege that Southern California Edison negligently started the Thomas fire, the largest officially recorded wildfire in modern California history. “Plaintiffs believe that SCE’s employees’ and/or contractors’ construction activities caused the ignition of dry vegetation at (a) construction site, which set off the massive wildfire” about 6:20 p.m. Dec. 4, one of the suits alleges.

53 posted on 01/12/2018 9:53:37 AM PST by NutsOnYew (If the world was perfect, it wouldn't be.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

So, what does this tell us?

She doesn’t own a Car?
She doesn’t have Electricity or Gas in her Home?
She doesn’t go to any Business that uses Electricity or Gas?

What is she doing to stop “Climate Change” besides complaining about living in Santa Barbara?

Must be a Shithole there.


54 posted on 01/12/2018 9:56:25 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (Tweet softly, but carry a big stick.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It’s embarrassing to post this but...

Leah and I share something in common.

We both have CLIMATE CHANGE in our backyard.


55 posted on 01/12/2018 9:58:26 AM PST by upchuck (Keep a sharp lookout. The best is yet to come.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

LEAH, when did you become a climate scientist?

Since you are young, I’ll accept a degree in meteorology.

No? Okay, how about a degree in economics?

Chemistry or biology?

Never mind.

5.56mm


56 posted on 01/12/2018 10:02:00 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The Santa Barbara climate, which is quite nice, has not changed in my entire lifetime. She doesn’t have a clue what she’s talking about


57 posted on 01/12/2018 10:02:35 AM PST by faithhopecharity (“Politicians aren’t born, they’re excreted.” -Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This has been happening for eons. Until these moonbats started building their houses on the sides of the mud covered hills, no one noticed.


58 posted on 01/12/2018 10:13:19 AM PST by Fireone (Lock Her Up! (and 100 of her accomplices))
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“...the largest fire in California history...”

In terms of square miles of area burned that's true. But you are correct that there have been many more fires that have done more damage, many because man has built into areas that burn naturally every several decades. In terms of homes lost, those from multiple fires north of San Francisco must come close to being the most expensive. Other fires of memory are in Oakland and San Diego.

59 posted on 01/12/2018 10:18:15 AM PST by CedarDave (Alt-left hates presidents pics on paper money. I'll gladly collect those offensive bills from them!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

1. Rain in winter Is hardly a change in climate. 2. The Santa Barbara area consists of largely- loose and unstable soil aggregate coastal hills. Naturally prone to slides. 3. There have been several such slides in just my brief lifetime. 4. There are also underwater land slides in the offshore seabed. 5. There is also soil movement due to California being earthquake country. 6. The city of Santa Barbara special zoned building restrictions in certain areas, years ago already, to try to minimize the trend of building more and more on slopes and other unstable sites. 7. Both the uses and the state of California have been mapping the Santa Barbara area slide danger for years, too. 8. Here is a link to the state’s slide danger maps for SB area. Note these maps are also several years old already- so that the danger of slides has been known for quite awhile. The numbers 2,3,and 4 indicate , in increasing order of danger, where slides are known to be most likely, dangerous.
ftp://ftp.consrv.ca.gov/pub/dmg/pubs/ofr/OFR_99-12/ 9. The climate is the same as it’s been for at least my rntire lifetime and as noted, It does rain in winter


60 posted on 01/12/2018 10:27:32 AM PST by faithhopecharity (“Politicians aren’t born, they’re excreted.” -Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE))
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