Posted on 01/12/2018 8:53:52 AM PST by Pinkbell
We have an update on the previous thread, which I'll link below. Trump denied saying "sh*thole" in the meeting, Dick Durbin came out and said Trump said it:
“In the course of his comments, [President Trump] said things which were hate-filled, vile and racist,” Sen. Dick Durbin says of “sh*thole countries” comments. “He said these hate-filled things and he said them repeatedly.” http://cbsn.ws/2mngMu4
Of course, he then dramatized it to the extreme:
"The most disheartening thing to me is, my belief that, that was the first time words that hateful have been spoken in the Oval Office of the White House," Sen. Dick Durbin says http://cbsn.ws/2mngMu4
However, he said that Lindsey Graham was in the meeting and stood up to Trump and that other Republicans told him they didn't like Trump's words:
NEW: "Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina spoke up and made a direct comment on what the president said. I was very proud of him. It took courage for what he did," Sen. Dick Durbin says, firing back at Pres. Trump's denial of "sh*thole countries" comment
https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/951836710199091201
Jake Tapper went and then talked to Flake who never misses an opportunity to trash Trump but apparently who wasn't in the meeting:
Sen. @JeffFlake to me just now:
"The words used by the president -- as related to me directly following the meeting by those in attendance -- were not 'tough,' they were abhorrent and repulsive. There is no good explanation."
Flake tells me before the @washingtonpost broke the story, he was told of the comments by @SenatorDurbin and a GOP Senator who attended the Oval Office meeting . 2/
Flake said he was told what CNN reported: that the president referred to African countries as "shithole countries," and of Haitians asked “Why do we need more Haitians? Take them out” —- meaning take them out of the deal.
See this thread:
So how and why is President Trump denying the remarks that he reportedly said?
I have some clarifying reporting from a source familiar the meeting. I want to start by saying that this does not make what he said any more acceptable, but it might shed some light on it all. 1/
The president did not refer to Haiti as a “shithole” country according to the source familiar with the meeting… though he DID say it about countries in Africa...
What happened, the source says, is there was a conflation of two different remarks by the president. 2/
First, when talking about “temporary protected status” countries as part of the immigration deal it was mentioned that Salvadorans, Hondurans and Haitians have that status. 3/
“Haitians?” the president said. “Why do we need more Haitians? Take them out” —- meaning take them out of the deal. 4/
Then in a separate part of the conversation when they were referencing the diversity visa lottery, President Trump referred to people coming from Africa as coming from “shithole countries.”
Again, I’m not saying this is better. Just that this is what happened, per my source. 5/
6/ So that might explain the kinda-pushback from POTUS today. -fin-
That was Jake Tapper. The White House didn't deny the statements last night, and it doesn't help that meeting was full of some Republicans who are conservative and like Trump (Graham likes Trump despite their disagreements) and who haven't come to his defense. Now would be the time for them to come forward.
Look, I don't like the term and have said that, but if he said it, he said it. It's best just to admit to it because denying it and getting rebuffed just gives you double the problem. The best thing to do is issue a statement immediately via Twitter or the White House clarifying his comments. It's not good to give the media a full night to call you racist without rebuttal.
The key to such a meeting is to assume the Democrats/RINOs will leak the whole thing to the press. Watch everything you say and possibly have someone video the meeting or record it so there is no deniability.
Sen. Flake has proven himself to be an opportunistic political whore.
Please Arizona, someone take this clown out into the desert.
The Bush League Republicans want the final amnesty to cement in place the demographic changes they have made to the country against the will of the citizens.
MANY Americans have asked themselves that same question.
“Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?”
I don’t get it. Are people trying to say that Haiti is not a shtthole?
It’s wonderful to have the most expensive news-gathering organizations in the world right here in the USA. They always let us know what’s really important.
Two lying aholes agree on something. What a surprise.
That will show everyone that TRUMP lies!?
It comes down to who you believe...Trump or Dick Turbin...who got that name by trashing our troops overseas. Funny there was no “outrage” from the media when he did that!
Since these places aren’t shitholes, that means all their “refugees” can go back!
So what?
Sick of the snowflake ultra PC country we’ve turned in to.
Time to put the patriots firmly in the driver’s seat.
My preferred designations are “hellholes” and “3rd world dumps”, but that’s just my druthers.
More free publicity for Trump’s message.
So now Trump knows he can not negotiate in confidence with these illegal immigration supporting whoremasters.
That they even proposed a pathetic deal like they did is very telling.
Even now, the only person who was in the meeting who has claimed Trump used the S word is Durbin. Only one.
-PJ
Jake Tapper went and then talked to Flake who never misses an opportunity to trash Trump but apparently who wasn't in the meeting:
Sen. @JeffFlake to me just now:
"The words used by the president -- as related to me directly following the meeting by those in attendance -- were not 'tough,' they were abhorrent and repulsive. There is no good explanation."
Flake tells me before the @washingtonpost broke the story, he was told of the comments by @SenatorDurbin and a GOP Senator who attended the Oval Office meeting . 2/
Flake said he was told what CNN reported: that the president referred to African countries as "shithole countries," and of Haitians asked “Why do we need more Haitians? Take them out” —- meaning take them out of the deal.
He probably said the word but not the way the left are portraying it.
The United States cannot afford to pay for people from failed countries to live in the United States.
The basis for selecting immigrants needs to be the benefits that they can bring, period.
Anyone who wants to invoke the ideal of charity being a virtue needs to understand that charity begins at home, and start helping the people who already legally live in their country.
Trump is right and nothing melts a snow flake faster then the heat of truth.
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