Posted on 01/10/2018 3:31:56 PM PST by springwater13
IS there a FISA warrant?
We know it was denied once.
“Still building a case. They are going to want this airtight so even the media will have to agree.”
But a DC jury will acquit in 5 minutes.
Very possible at this point. I doubt Sessions has done anything of major importance. Now Trump is taking the fight to the Swamp. It seems like Sessions is slowly playing along. By no means is he in charge. He is causing more hinderence than help.
I believe the case is probably air tight already. It doesn’t hurt to be more careful but at this point who cares. A year has been wasted and finally Trump has them ready to “fall apart”. Sessions is along for the ride. Pretty sure he is being blackmailed.
Explains how Hillary could blow through over a billion $$$
Short answer, No! The spying was done without the sanction of a court and was completely illegal if we are to believe Jim Clapper’s answers in 2017 on MTP and CNN w/Don Lemmon. If my suspicion is true there is real criminal liability and this is why I believe Obama has been very silent these days!
“I don’t see a way back from this, unfortunately.”
Sure there is.
Civil war where our side kills their side to such an extent that they tire of dying.
None Dare Call It Treason
“Please produce your evidence proving Sessions is not acting.......”
Ludicrous.
The exact opposite should be asserted.
Washington DC is awash in thousands of felonious and treasonous acts, apparent to even a school child. Any competent prosecutor could obtain indictments for all the high-profile crimes.
Yet the Sessions DOJ has not a single indictment released, not a single arrest. No information anywhere that DOJ is in pursuit or that a GJ has been formed.
AND we have public statements from that piss-poor excuse for a prosecutor that he does not intend to pursue the vast majority of these criminals...from the IRS, to FBI, to Clinton and the DNC...to Comey.
Nothing.
The man is a Criminally negligent weight on justice. If not one of the corrupt gang himself.
The news cycle and same BS is groundhog day.
I figure Trump knew he was being surveilled from the start and countered it. So they can go stew in their fancy surveillance methods.
this is what police/prosecutors do. The give themselves an anonymous tip and the create a fictional thread of “we would find it anyways”.
If Mueller could really find a case he would have to resort to ham fisted misrepresentations to investigators.
That used to be a no brainer.
Not so sure anymore.
Arrest indict and execute!
I believe the Obama administration was surveilling Trump world even before they got the FISA warrant. It was only after they got caught by Admiral Rodgers, that they went to plan B, which was to use the dossier to get a FISA warrant.
This is a very important point that many who advocate for immediate arrest and incarceration seem to miss. Allegations and strong suspicion are not sufficient. Ultimately a case will have to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law.
Currently, those individuals suspected of violating the law are holding together as a group, but as more and more evidence is accumulated, they will inevitably become isolated from one another and as pressure grows, the normal human instinct for self preservation will take over. A conspiracy is only as strong as the weakest member and, at some point, someone will crack. When they do, the whole house of cards will fall. The real professionals in the Justice Department, of which there are many, know what they are doing and will not be deterred by the stalling tactics of those under suspicion nor will they be goaded into premature action by public criticism or ridicule.
Thanks for posting. Sounds like the Treehouse guess today that there might not have even been a warrant at all, is possibly overridden by Sara’s reporting. So we can revert back to their previous timelines and dates of estimation for the warrant(s)...
The DOJ National Security Division set Admiral Mike Rogers up to take the fall for their unlawful conduct. They preempted Rogers by filing a notification with the FISA Court on 26th September 2016 (look at the pdf). DOJ-NSD head John P Carlin was setting up Rogers as the scapegoat while knowing the NSA FISA compliance officer was still reviewing their conduct. Carlin wouldn’t notify the court unless he was trying to cover something. Carlin then announced his resignation. The NSA compliance officer did not brief Admiral Rogers until 20th Oct 2016.
The NSA compliance officer identified several strange 702 “About Queries” that were being conducted. These were violations of the fourth amendment (search and seizure), ie. unlawful surveillance and gathering. Admiral Rogers was briefed by the compliance officer on October 20th, 2016.
Admiral Mike Rogers ordered the “About Query” activity to stop, reported the activity to the DOJ, and then went to the FISA court.
On October 26th, 2016, full FISC assembly, NSA Director Rogers personally informed the court of the 702(17) violations. Additionally, Rogers also stopped “About Query” permanently.
Ten days after the election, November 17th 2016, Admiral Rogers travels to Trump Tower without telling ODNI James Clapper.
June 2016: FISA request. The Obama administration files a request with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA) to monitor communications involving Donald Trump and several advisers. The request, uncharacteristically, is denied.
October 2016: FISA request. The Obama administration submits a new, narrow request to the FISA court, now focused on a computer server in Trump Tower suspected of links to Russian banks. No evidence is found — but the wiretaps continue, ostensibly for national security reasons, Andrew McCarthy at National Review later notes. The Obama administration is now monitoring an opposing presidential campaign using the high-tech surveillance powers of the federal intelligence services.
On Tuesday November 8th, 2016 the election was held. Results announced Wednesday November 9th, 2016.
NSA Director Rogers participates in session at Intelligence and National Security Summit in Washington. On Thursday November 17th, 2016, NSA Director Mike Rogers traveled to New York and met with President-Elect Donald Trump.
“Please produce your evidence proving Sessions is not acting.......”
Ummm....the fact that nothing is happening?
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