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Russian historian who exposed Stalin's crimes faces enforced psychiatric testing
Reuters via Yahoo ^ | 01/09/2018 | Andrew Osborn

Posted on 01/09/2018 11:39:33 AM PST by DFG

A Russian historian whose exposure of Soviet leader Josef Stalin's crimes angered state officials is due to begin enforced psychiatric testing this week amid fears he will be falsely declared insane, his lawyer said on Tuesday.

Yuri Dmitriev, 61, is on trial in northwest Russia on charges brought by state prosecutors of involving his adopted daughter, then 11, in child pornography, of illegally possessing "the main elements of" a firearm, and of depravity involving a minor.

Some of Russia's leading cultural figures say Dmitriev was framed because his focus on Stalin's crimes - he found a mass grave with up to 9,000 bodies dating from the Soviet dictator's Great Terror in the 1930s - jars with the latter-day Kremlin narrative that Russia must not be ashamed of its past.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: 1930s; 201801; banglist; dmitriev; framed; graves; greatterror; gungrabbers; historian; josefstalin; karelia; massgrave; massgraves; mrga; murders; nkvd; psychiatry; quacks; russia; sandarmokh; smears; socialistlobotomies; stalin; yuridmitriev
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1 posted on 01/09/2018 11:39:33 AM PST by DFG
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To: DFG

Coming to a theater near us.


2 posted on 01/09/2018 11:42:03 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein

Probably true! Sadly!!


3 posted on 01/09/2018 11:43:56 AM PST by foundedonpurpose (Prayers for all God's People! Salvation & Restoration!)
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To: DFG
I remember when we used to laugh at this Russian tactic against their political enemies.

Because, of course, it could never happen here.

4 posted on 01/09/2018 11:44:29 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: DFG

Just think if he were to do that in Seattle or Berkeley.


5 posted on 01/09/2018 11:49:52 AM PST by OttawaFreeper ("If I had to go to war again, I'd bring lacrosse players" Conn Smythe)
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To: DFG

The Venona decrypts pretty much documented the atrocities of Stalin’s paradise. And those were the Soviets’ own files.

There’s no denying it anymore.


6 posted on 01/09/2018 12:02:30 PM PST by IronJack (A)
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To: DFG
". . . and of depravity involving a minor.

If they have good evidence of this charge then IMHo, this crap about being wrongly declared insane is an attempt to avoid having people focus on the charges rather than bogus charges of political motivations.

Look at the Jewish Oligarch who fled Russia to England when Putin started rounding up criminal Oligarchs. He spews the same sort of crap about the Interpol warrant he's dodging being politically motivated when Russia has no way to force Interpol to lift a finger. There's solid evidence of his crimes so he works his butt off to keep the focus off the facts.

This could be the same sort of thing since as I understand it anyone in Russia charged with pederasty or pedophilia has to be seen by a psychiatrist before they go to trial. So, at least keep this sort of thing in mind rather than jumping to conclusions. In addition, things like this aren't decided at the national level but by local prosecutors.

It should be an interesting little story to follow, though, given the fact there are local nutcases in office here and there who praise Stalin but I doubt there will be much beyond what they figure makes for good headlines then it'll just vanish like all the successes Trump has vanish.

JMHo

7 posted on 01/09/2018 12:03:50 PM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: DFG

This is what communists do to people who’s perspective on anything differs from theirs. Take note America-this fascism already exists here on college campuses!


8 posted on 01/09/2018 12:08:03 PM PST by Lopeover ( The 2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States!)
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To: DFG

Whooooooooey. If Russia is worshiping all of its past as such, it’s cruising for trouble. Does it really hanker to become yet another huge communist empire?


9 posted on 01/09/2018 12:20:26 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: Rashputin
The article suggests that they have no evidence at all of any kind against him.

A previous psychiatric evaluation declared him to be of sound mind and a court-sanctioned expert group found no pornographic content in nine photographs of his daughter that are at the center of the case against him, overturning the earlier findings of other experts commissioned by prosecutors. But on Dec. 27, in an unexpected twist, the court ordered that the same nine photos be re-examined by experts for a third time. It also granted the prosecution's request that Dmitriev undergo enforced psychiatric testing to determine whether he has "sexual deviations."

If you have to have politically appointed groups of "experts" examine a few family photos, repeatedly, looking for evidence then, I would suggest, there is nothing there and never was. It does look like they intend to keep on "examining" him until they get the "correct" outcome.

10 posted on 01/09/2018 1:14:37 PM PST by protest1
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To: DFG

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/452520/case-yuri-dmitriev-grave-hunter-russia

Very interesting article on this guy. He personally locates mass graves. His best trick is going to small towns and asking old women what areas outside of town are traditionally avoided, forbidden, haunted, etc. Then he goes and looks.


11 posted on 01/09/2018 1:59:07 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: DFG

The article starts with the assumption that this a conspiracy and the charges cannot possibly be true, and then goes from there to make sweeping indictments. No evidence for the assumptions is given.

This is typical for English language journalism on Russia.


12 posted on 01/09/2018 2:07:01 PM PST by WatchungEagle
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To: protest1

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13 posted on 01/09/2018 4:47:53 PM PST by Krosan
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To: WatchungEagle

You said it. There are some facts in the article but these are frivolously interpreted. Generally by Russian legal definition pornography should involve ‘graphic portrayal of genitals in process of sexual act’.
There are also a number of legal articles criminalizing traffic of less than pornographic private photos.
For example you can’t put someone’s nude photo on the Internet without that person’s consent.
If indeed you do and there is complain there would be federal charges.
I agree all of the above might have something to do with the article or not but there is not enough information for conclusion.
I can’t imagine why a grave digger might be’ politically repressed’ even imagine that the political repression still exists.


14 posted on 01/09/2018 7:36:12 PM PST by NorseViking
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To: DFG

If Bolshies have their way, Trump will undergo same for revealing Clintoons.


15 posted on 01/09/2018 8:05:50 PM PST by depressed in 06 (60 in '18.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks DFG.
Some of Russia's leading cultural figures say Dmitriev was framed because his focus on Stalin's crimes - he found a mass grave with up to 9,000 bodies dating from the Soviet dictator's Great Terror in the 1930s - jars with the latter-day Kremlin narrative that Russia must not be ashamed of its past.

16 posted on 01/09/2018 10:35:49 PM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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What is it with you and your Commie/Russia apologism? Denouncing a historian finding and documenting mass graves of Stalin’s mass murders as a “grave digger” shows quite well how you feel about it, but why have you chosen to be like that and why the constant Russia apologism?


17 posted on 01/10/2018 1:02:56 AM PST by Krosan
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To: McGruff

Ping #2


18 posted on 01/16/2018 2:21:44 PM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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To: DFG

A guy who spends his free time out looking for nearly forgotten mass graves ...instead of hanging around schools or holding some job that gives him opportunity to ‘groom’ kids...is not likely to be what the prosecutors claim.

So this smells like a political persecution case.


19 posted on 06/06/2021 12:59:30 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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Kremlin archaeologists are accused of burying Stalin’s atrocities
9/13/2018, 1:00:46 PM · by CondoleezzaProtege · 14 replies
South China Morning Post ^ | Sep 13, 2018 | Agence France Presse
In wooded northern Russia, near the Finnish border, archaeological digs by a patriotic historical group are unearthing controversy. The Russian Military History Society, which was created by the Kremlin, says it is seeking the remains of Soviet soldiers who died when the region was occupied by Nazi-aligned Finns during World War II. But human rights activists allege the organisation is trying to cover up Stalin-era repressions in the Sandarmokh forest, in Karelia. “The search for the remains of soldiers from the Second World War on the site of mass executions by the NKVD...looks like an attempt to manipulate memory,” Memorial...


20 posted on 06/06/2021 1:07:51 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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