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Nightmare For New York And California: Tax Reform Will Put Added Pressure On High-Tax States
Townhall.com ^ | December 29, 2017 | Daniel J. Mitchell

Posted on 12/30/2017 5:41:33 PM PST by Kaslin

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To: Lysandru

“Most of the bill is about stimulating the economy. But this part strikes at the heart of the Blue State Racket. It could further accelerate trends already in motion—much like the President’s remarks on NFL protests turned a mere trickle into a flood.”

nicely written ;)


41 posted on 12/30/2017 6:59:56 PM PST by CottonBall (Thank you, Julian!)
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To: Kaslin

Gee, thats too bad.


42 posted on 12/30/2017 6:59:59 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

With 50% of the remaining money going to their agent, manager, and publicist.


43 posted on 12/30/2017 7:02:07 PM PST by EdnaMode
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To: WMarshal

i’m trying xiidra for that. it’s a pretty painful condition.

but i agree ;)


44 posted on 12/30/2017 7:05:22 PM PST by CottonBall (Thank you, Julian!)
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To: CottonBall

so making one deductible from the other makes no sense.


There is a logic to it. For example, if I work in two states, I can deduct the taxes paid to the other state on my home state. Else it would be double taxation.

The same concept is historical for federal taxes but it has been so long that it has been forgotten.


45 posted on 12/30/2017 7:08:13 PM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: \/\/ayne

“Liberals, we have more taxes for you! Be happy!”

Exactly! Liberals LOVE taxes! They constantly try to raise them. I guess they just hate poor people because they don’t want to pay taxes.


46 posted on 12/30/2017 7:13:55 PM PST by CodeToad (CWII is coming. Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: PeterPrinciple

but your example Dealt with two state taxes. Not the state and federal, which both have different uses.

I always wondered how one filed if they lived in one state and worked in another. so you pay the 2nd state’s income tax, filing as a nonresident- but when filing for your home state you deduct what you’ve already paid? What if your home state tax rate is lower or higher?


47 posted on 12/30/2017 7:19:29 PM PST by CottonBall (Thank you, Julian!)
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To: PeterPrinciple

I’m trying to wrap my mind about this. So you’re saying your deducting state taxes from federal somehow deals with avoiding double taxation?


48 posted on 12/30/2017 7:21:41 PM PST by CottonBall (Thank you, Julian!)
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To: Kaslin

I received the union’s retiree newsletter, touting all kinds of dire consequences of the “Republican” tax bill. It was a real doomsday tirade. Having already checked with my own accountant, who said any effects on me would be negligible either way, I tossed the retiree newsletter where it belonged-—the trash.


49 posted on 12/30/2017 7:23:08 PM PST by EinNYC
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To: Kaslin
He estimated that his tax rate (and others [similarly] situated) will go from mid-30% to 56%,

Those numbers make no sense at all. NY State's top income tax rate is 8.82%. NYC's top income tax rate is 3.876%. Add those together and you get 12.696%. If that entirely deductible for someone at 2017's top income tax rate of 39.6% you would have a net marginal state and city rate of 7.67%. So you would pay an total marginal rate of 7.67%+39.6%=47.27%. Compare that to 2018 with 37% federal + 12.696% state & city= 49.696%.

No, you aren't going up 20%. Maybe 2.4%, but not 20%. And you would need an income of more than a million dollars to hit those rates.

It might be higher if you have a huge mortgage on a very expensive property and are hitting the mortgage deduction and real estate tax deduction for the huge amounts.

50 posted on 12/30/2017 7:26:17 PM PST by KarlInOhio (The Whig Party died when it fled the great fight of its century. Ditto for the Republicans now.)
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To: Kaslin

Thanks for this informative post.


51 posted on 12/30/2017 7:26:23 PM PST by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)
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To: Kaslin; flaglady47
I keep hearing on TV about the approximate tax breaks for couples and couples with children. The widder ladies I know down here in Florida retirement heaven are wondering what they will get as they get no payroll checks and mostly live on social security checks and pension checks.

Anyone have a clue?

Leni

52 posted on 12/30/2017 7:34:21 PM PST by MinuteGal (MAGA !!!)
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To: Kaslin

Dear people moving from Liberal States to Florida: Please don’t bring your liberal ideas to Florida. If you want to, stay there since you crapped the state there and don’t crap my state. Thank you.


53 posted on 12/30/2017 7:44:14 PM PST by ConservaTeen (Islam is Not the Religion of Peace, but The religion of Pedophilia...)
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To: lightman

Principles be damned, it’s all about YOUR money, right?

No matter that your state and mine is passing off the costs of their Marxist irresponsible tax schemes to the states that have acted responsibly with their tax monies.


54 posted on 12/30/2017 7:45:58 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Kaslin

Ahem. That pic of the statue is NJ.


55 posted on 12/30/2017 7:47:26 PM PST by Libloather (Trivial Pursuit question - name the first female to lose TWO presidential elections!)
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To: SoConPubbie
Principles be damned,

One of my principles is that you don't kick to the curb the very people who helped you to get where you.

The GOP-E has kicked us to the curb...collateral damage for their precious corporate tax cuts.

Two words for the GOP-E: Foxtrot Uniform.

56 posted on 12/30/2017 7:59:07 PM PST by lightman (ANTIFA is full of Bolshevik.)
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To: KarlInOhio

MATH!

The only subject more revealing of ignorance in (most) Americans than geography.


57 posted on 12/30/2017 8:05:32 PM PST by antidisestablishment ( Xenophobia is the only sane response to multiculturalismÂ’s irrational cultural exuberance)
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To: MinuteGal
The widder ladies I know down here in Florida retirement heaven are wondering what they will get as they get no payroll checks and mostly live on social security checks and pension checks.

if they pay no income tax already, then no change. Otherwise the increase in standard deduction plus lower bracket rates means their tax burden will go down. If they withhold at a flat percentage, such as from their SS check, they will get a bigger refund.

58 posted on 12/30/2017 8:33:22 PM PST by NonValueAdded (#DeplorableMe #BitterClinger #HillNO! #cishet #MyPresident #MAGA #Winning #covfefe)
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To: NonValueAdded

I didn’t even know that Social Security would withhold a tax amount.

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59 posted on 12/30/2017 8:38:30 PM PST by Mears
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To: Kaslin

I trust that when the 2020 census is taken, New York and California lose electoral votes to red states. I read Rhode Island is about to lose a Congressman and go down to one.

JoMa


60 posted on 12/30/2017 8:39:45 PM PST by joma89
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