Moore Or Less? The Crucial Question For Alabama Voters

Jewish Press ^ | December 10, 2017 | Rabbi Yehuda Levin

[SJackson]

I met Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore in August 2003. He was being threatened with impeachment for not removing a Ten Commandments monument he’d commissioned, which was standing in the court building’s rotunda. As he continued to defy those who opposed him, realizing his job was on the line, I felt it was imperative he receive Orthodox Jewish support for his courageous stand.

I flew out to Montgomery on a Thursday afternoon to attend a Saturday rally that had been called by Jerry Falwell, Ambassador Alan Keyes, and other religious/conservative stalwarts. I represented the combined membership of various rabbinic groups.

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Upon arrival, I was immediately brought to the chief justice’s chambers, where he spent an hour with me, according me great respect and expressing his appreciation. He accompanied me into an inner office, where he proudly showed me a partial Torah scroll, salvaged from the Holocaust, which was given to him by a survivor. The scroll stood erect behind a plexiglass display case and was opened to the Ten Commandments. His reverence for the Scroll and its text was obvious.

I explained to the judge that as the actual rally on the steps of the capitol would occur on my Sabbath, I would be unable to address the participants but would be sitting with the dignitaries, and the organizers would recognize me by announcing the support of one million plus Torah-true Jews and 1,000 rabbis from the organizations I represented.

I informed Chief Justice Moore that I would be holding my own press conference Friday morning on the steps outside the court and if he would attend I would present him with a tallis (prayer shawl) chain, the two clips of which depicted the Ten Commandments.

He was very moved and immediately agreed to attend. He also asked me if it was permissible to make the two clips into cuff links, which he could wear daily. Friday morning, the judge joined me at the press conference, which four reporters and one T.V. crew attended.

The next day, after praying in my hotel room and eating an early Sabbath meal, I made my way to the steps of the capitol and sat with the dignitaries. I was gratified by the crowd’s lively display of appreciation when my participation was announced.

That evening a local activist phoned me in my hotel room and directed me to see the news story of my Friday media conference with Justice Moore which was playing hourly on CNN for the entire weekend. It seemed that CNN didn’t want to show visuals of the Saturday rally attended by several thousand people, so instead they featured my presentation to the judge and used a voiceover reference to the Saturday rally. They flashed my name across the screen and indicated I was representing one thousand Orthodox rabbis. This was a true Kiddush Hashem, a sanctification of God’s name.

I have had no contact with Judge Moore since then. However, I along with millions of other Americans cheered when he attempted to defy the Supreme Court’s decision narrowly recognizing same-gender marriages.

Once again, the judge championed his religious values at the expense of his judicial position – from which he was ultimately ousted for a second time.

I do not carry water for Judge Roy Moore. Only God and those who are now making allegations know if Moore acted inappropriately or how often and to what extent.

However, I do know the following: His well-funded opposition has failed to come up with anything untoward done by Judge Moore for the last 35-plus years, more than half his lifetime. Any statute of limitation has long since expired and there is no absolute proof of any wrongdoing.

Why aren’t liberals applying to Moore what so many are saying regarding liberal Democratic members of Congress who have had far more evidence arrayed against them but of whom it is argued, “they still have a presumption of innocence and are entitled to due process”?

Additionally, even if one were to assume that Moore is guilty of some of the accusations, his Democratic opponent remains a strong supporter of partial birth abortion throughout the nine months of pregnancy. This barbaric practice was condemned as akin to murder by such New York liberals as the late Mayor Koch and the late Senator Moynihan. So who is currently the greater threat to society?

Is it Judge Moore, who may have done something bad more than a half a lifetime ago (which, if true, is horrific and worthy of serious denouncement), or is it his liberal Democrat opponent who, today and tomorrow, supports the horrible death by dismemberment of hundreds of pre-born babies yearly and would probably be as radical on so many other social issues?

There is another point I ask Alabamans to consider. I call it the Sammy “the Bull” (Gravano) Freedom ticket.

Remember, this was the admitted killer of 19 people who was used by the government to “rat out” John Gotti. He was then released from prison. So, for the “greater good” of society, i.e. imprisoning John Gotti, some government lawyers with a vested interest in winning freed a murderer. And prosecutors cut such deals all the time –pardoning and releasing hardened, convicted criminals for the assumed “greater good” of society (and, some of the more cynical among us would say, for their win-loss record as prosecutors).

Applying the Sammy “the Bull” Freedom ticket to Roy Moore is, by comparison, a no-brainer. Even according to his opponents, Moore has been “clean” for half a lifetime (and possibly a lot longer). He has certainly demonstrated the highest form of dedication to biblical values throughout his public career, which benefits tens of millions of us.

If a few government bureaucrats can decide the common good is served by releasing confessed killers, then “We the People” are also qualified and entitled to decide what’s needed for our families and communities.

I say to Alabamans: vote for Judge Moore. The Lord will not hold you responsible for his possible wrongdoing forty years ago, but will probably look unkindly at your ignoring the liberal, pro-partial birth abortion policies of Doug Jones.

So, to unequivocally answer the question posed in the title of this piece: Usually, more (in this case Moore) is better than less, but even if you hold less of Moore because of the cloud hovering above him, “less” of Moore is considerably better for the future of Alabama’s families and for the country at large

[SJackson]

Too late, but a worthwhile point.

[Arm_Bears]

Presumption of innocence is a concept lost on many FReepers and “Conservatives,” as well.

[Liz]

Moore missed many opportunities.......for one, did not explain himself well on Hannity.....his Big Chance to come clean.

I firmy believe that Moore compounded his problems by emphaslizing the accusations.....using every political trick to clear his name.

IMHO he should have inserted some humor into his campaign.....make light of the very things he was accused of.

We are the party of Ronald Reagan. His own campaign manager said Mondale lost when Reagan came back with the response about his being too old to be president:

“I will not exploit for political purposes, my opponent’s youth and inexperience.”

[Don Corleone]

The military vote and huge voting irregularities may still change the outcome. Just sayin;.

[pepsionice]

The Hannity interview, in my humble opinion....did more or less nothing, to clear the air. It was a lousy appearance, and the judge simply doesn’t have the flair to do public appearances like this. Bannon helped in some ways, but I think the GOP in Alabama was left with a difficult primary.

No one liked Luther Strange (thinking he was corrupted). Moore was known around the state. The other four or five folks simply didn’t have any state-wide appearances. Moore became the anti-Luther vote, whether people want to admit it or not.

[Liz]

Nice wrap.

[RitchieAprile]

Moore also had that Foundation for Moral Law thing ...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/undisclosed-deal-guaranteed-roy-moore-180000-a-year-for-part-time-work-at-charity/2017/10/11/5f56679e-a9de-11e7-850e-2bdd1236be5d_story.html?utm_term=.596e9c825a18

[Vlad The Inhaler]

[granada]

It was GOPe who immediately bowed to liberals’ fake mass hysteria and joined the kangaroo court.

[yefragetuwrabrumuy]

Actually, it is not too late, if Moore decides to run again for the seat in the 2018 election. If he chooses to do so, however, he must make several important additions to his campaign.

1) Just before the election, the state supreme court, no friend of his, permitted counties to destroy their electronic records after the election. This means those records, along with what could be evidence of copious amounts of voter fraud, will be lost. So the Republican party and legislature in Alabama need to be lobbied *hard* to pass a retention law of county election data.

2) Reports of widespread voter fraud did happen, and there needs to be some means of countering it. This means clearing the voter rolls of ineligible voters, large numbers of poll watchers, and quick response teams when reports come in of possible voter fraud.

3) He does need to sue each of his accusers, starting with the most obviously fraudulent, importantly in the *lowest* possible court. He doesn’t need to win a lot of cash, but to get a quick judgment against them in court. It also gives his lawyers the right of “discovery”, to see if the accusers were paid off, and by whom.

4) President Trump needs to direct the RNC to give Moore their “full faith and credit”, to not support any primary challenger against him, and to give him campaign money.

[moovova]

“He was being threatened with impeachment for not removing a Ten Commandments monument...”

THAT’S exactly why I supported Roy Moore. He stood up against those enemies of God.

[Buckeye McFrog]

Black Women apparently turned out at rates from 97-105%.

Then a court shredded all the ballots.

One need look no further to explain this.

[Yosemitest]

Don't for one second think that Judy Roy Moore lost that election !
Can't you see DemocRAT generated FAKE VOTES right in front of you ?

The information in the article Vote Fraud of Alabama from TUESDAY, DECEMBER 12, 2017, deserves saving.

...

There is absolutely not any way that Roy Moore lost the Alabama election for United States Senate. This was a matter again of vote rigging in population centers.

Simply look at the massive margins which Doug Jones had to pile up in concentrated population areas. To put it plainly, Alabama is a state of 6 out of 10 voters are Republicans, in remembering this 60 to 40 percent margin, look at these numbers in percentages for Doug Jones.



 Bullock 80.4%
Macon 88.1
Montgomery 72.1
Dallas 74.7
Perry 79
Wilcox 76.7
Hale 87.6
Sumter 80.9
Jefferson 69.6
Mobile 57.2
Madison 56.9


One only sees numbers like this in Pyongyang, Tehran and Peking. In a state of 60% Republicans who were highly motivated for Roy Moore, while Doug Jones was getting Hillary Clinton no shows at his events, and we are to believe that in Macon County 90% of the voters voted for Doug Jones?


County


	Jones	Moore	Write-Ins	Rpt.
Jefferson	121,169	49,910	3,121	85%
Madison	65,664	46,313	3,446	100
Mobile	57,715	41,398	1,300	71
Montgomery	48,186	17,705	743	100
Shelby	27,251	36,424	1,718	100
Baldwin	22,131	38,445	1,699	98
Tuscaloosa	30,858	22,064	1,007	100
Lee	19,810	14,017	672	100
Morgan	10,901	19,187	668	100
Etowah	10,518	15,693	617	100
Calhoun	11,705	14,567	399	100
Limestone	9,606	14,298	515	100
Houston	9,107	14,796	285	100
Lauderdale	9,908	12,775	382	100
St. Clair	6,203	15,876	459	100
Elmore	7,711	14,411	338	100
Cullman	4,156	16,602	324	100
Talladega	9,967	9,698	223	100
Marshall	5,134	13,828	449	100
Walker	4,317	11,909	259	100
Colbert	6,865	7,762	171	100
Autauga	5,606	8,752	253	100
Blount	2,405	11,621	180	100
Dallas	10,492	3,485	60	100
DeKalb	3,559	10,097	234	100
Coffee	3,715	8,052	202	100
Tallapoosa	4,590	7,171	148	100
Dale	3,842	6,988	136	100
Jackson	3,328	7,316	154	100
Russell	6,761	3,622	55	100
Chilton	2,298	7,555	132	100
Covington	2,102	6,825	88	100
Escambia	3,640	4,985	87	100
Lawrence	3,028	5,314	61	100
Clarke	4,346	3,984	43	100
Pike	3,989	4,154	97	100
Chambers	4,247	3,308	75	100
Marengo	4,495	2,804	62	100
Geneva	1,289	5,431	93	100
Marion	1,311	5,268	68	100
Monroe	3,244	3,276	40	100
Macon	5,780	758	20	100
Barbour	3,680	2,699	41	100
Pickens	3,057	2,961	46	100
Franklin	1,770	4,214	48	100
Butler	2,914	2,756	41	100
Winston	911	4,680	67	100
Cherokee	1,525	3,996	110	100
Hale	3,894	1,691	32	100
Bibb	1,567	3,599	66	100
Washington	1,799	3,320	48	100
Henry	1,896	3,014	38	100
Randolph	1,692	3,229	23	100
Lowndes	3,779	988	13	100
Fayette	1,142	3,491	50	100
Sumter	3,527	814	18	100
Wilcox	3,344	999	16	100
Choctaw	2,273	1,949	17	100
Conecuh	2,259	1,815	18	100
Perry	3,138	821	11	100
Greene	3,340	462	9	100
Crenshaw	1,320	2,347	56	100
Lamar	779	2,847	29	100
Clay	985	2,586	44	100
Bullock	2,712	656	7	100
Coosa	1,414	1,867	30	100
Cleburne	594	2,465	30	100



I did an inquiry of the matrix and the numbers which returned were a long the lines of a month ago in Roy Moore won by 62% and Doug Jones lost in 28% of the vote.

This is what the deep state looks like when it steals an election. FOX comes out with a bogus poll to repress voting, but is more to prepare the Republicans for defeat, as Matt Drudge bashes the Alabama Citizens over the head for months, for the fag vote mafia.

What took place is e vote fraud, write ins, vote fraud and busing in voters. At one point Doug Jones somehow got 60,000 votes in a few moments.

...

[Seruzawa]

Turns out Trump was right. Should have gone with Luther.

[Yosemitest]

"Why aren’t liberals applying to Moore what so many are saying regarding liberal Democratic members of Congress who have had far more evidence arrayed against them but of whom it is argued,
“they still have a presumption of innocence and are entitled to due process”?"

Liberals are LIBERAL FIRST.
Their GOAL determines their lack of ethics and lack of moral judgment.
Their excuse is "Oh, everybody does it !" even though they know that statement is a lie.
Liberals could NOT care less, about due process for people who don;t agree AND SIDE with them.

"Additionally, even if one were to assume that Moore is guilty of some of the accusations,
his Democratic opponent remains a strong supporter of partial birth abortion throughout the nine months of pregnancy.
This barbaric practice was condemned as akin to murder by such New York liberals as the late Mayor Koch and the late Senator Moynihan.
So who is currently the greater threat to society?"

Is it Judge Moore, who may have done something bad more than a half a lifetime ago
(which, if true, is horrific and worthy of serious denouncement),
or is it his liberal Democrat opponent
who, today and tomorrow, supports the horrible death by dismemberment of hundreds of pre-born babies yearly
and would probably be as radical on so many other social issues?

Liberals are LIBERAL FIRST.
For Liberals, the greater threat is ANYONE who might delay their wicked agenda .
Like Rush said on Aug 3, 2017,

"... the Democrats will never tolerate anybody who is opposed to their holy sacrament, which is abortion. "

Liberals are sex-crazed, and they can't tolerate anyone who judges them for it.

BUT ... Liberals knew that the late Senator Moynihan wasn't going to vote against their agenda.
They also know that Mayor Koch won't vote against their agenda.

But Judge Roy Moore WILL vote against their agenda.
Most of the Liberals know that these accusations against him are false, because they are the ones who paid the accusers to make those accusations.
But the Liberals don't really care about the accusations.
Liberals care about destroying anyone who disagrees with them and Judge Roy Moore really means what he says and will DO what he says.
So ... for Liberals ... Judge Roy Moore is the greater threat to their agenda.


BUT I don't live or vote in Alabama.
But I have relatives who do !

[oincobx]

>>>Actually, it is not too late, if Moore decides to run again for the seat in the 2018 election.

The seat does not come open again until 2020.

>>>1) Just before the election, the state supreme court, no friend of his, permitted counties to destroy their electronic records after the election. This means those records, along with what could be evidence of copious amounts of voter fraud, will be lost. So the Republican party and legislature in Alabama need to be lobbied *hard* to pass a retention law of county election data.

The court, at the request of the Republican Secretary of State, said that counties did not have to retain digital images of the paper ballots that were submitted. The paper ballots are retained for 22 months. What evidence of fraud would be included in those images that wod not be apparent in the actual paper ballot?

>>>2) Reports of widespread voter fraud did happen, and there needs to be some means of countering it.

Lots of reports on the internet, but we never seem to every see any actual evidence. In this day of cell phones, where are the pictures and videos of the buses carrying voters from one polling place to another?

For years, we’ve argued for voter ID to prevent fraud. Is the argument now that voter ID doesn’t work?