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China’s aircraft carrier conundrum: hi-tech launch system for old, heavy fighter jets
South China Morning Post ^ | Sunday, 19 November, 2017 | Minnie Chan

Posted on 12/05/2017 9:39:13 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki

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1 posted on 12/05/2017 9:39:13 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Confucius say fat bird that try to fly from nest is a turkey.


2 posted on 12/05/2017 9:43:51 AM PST by bunkerhill7 ((((("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")))))))
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To: sukhoi-30mki

That airplane is about as stealthy as a garbage truck.


3 posted on 12/05/2017 9:45:56 AM PST by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrat's John Dean])
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To: sukhoi-30mki

That’s going to be very hard on the gear and the airframe.

Even if they are able to shoot them off the deck.


4 posted on 12/05/2017 9:46:11 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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China is Flushing money faster than we can buy their junk


5 posted on 12/05/2017 9:47:12 AM PST by butlerweave
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The real story here is in the course of history China has never been able to project the sea power she now has.
WE MUST rebuild our Navy!


6 posted on 12/05/2017 9:51:20 AM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

They are finding, as so many have before, that getting a carrier is not the hard part. Operating it is the hard part.


7 posted on 12/05/2017 9:52:34 AM PST by TalonDJ
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I find it interesting that the Chinese feel that they can launch their aircraft without the need for nuclear power.I’m no scientist but does’nt the generation of electrical power require an expenditure of fuel?Sure it does.

Now add that expendature to the need to propel a massive ship through the ocean and that will require even more fuel oil.

That is one of the weaknesses of the Chinese Carrier before its even built.


8 posted on 12/05/2017 9:59:46 AM PST by puppypusher ( The World is going to the dogs.)
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While Beijing is narrowing the aircraft carrier technology gap with the United States, the country’s carrier programme is still hindered by the capabilities of its carrier-based warplanes.

Whenever the US has a Republican president, China starts to feel like its technology programs are "hindered."

9 posted on 12/05/2017 10:00:05 AM PST by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrat's John Dean])
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To: sukhoi-30mki

They just need to put in larger rubber bands.

Imagine the power those old catapults had to have to chuck a loaded F-14 off the boat.


10 posted on 12/05/2017 10:00:56 AM PST by lurk
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I have a couple Chinese guns here.
They are what they are.. Copies of other designs, that were stolen and that weren’t well done, but they work.

The Chinese Warlords loved the German C96 Mauser and they used it to invent that gangbanger style of holding the pistol sideways to clear close quarters.

On full auto the muzzle rise would cause the gun to “walk” across the room.

Not a modern gun, it was produced in 1896.


11 posted on 12/05/2017 10:01:39 AM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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The Su-33 is still a fine aircraft though it’s never been an F-15.

And ships can carry newer fighters than they started out with.

Maybe the ChiComs were hoping to get one of our new designs from a Clinton Administration?

Who knows what a few speaking engagements for Bill or Clinton Foundation donations could have got them?


12 posted on 12/05/2017 10:11:54 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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It’s a serious flaw.


13 posted on 12/05/2017 10:13:43 AM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The US Navy also relied on a heavy carrier-based fighter in the past, the 33.7 tonne F-14 Tomcat.<>

But the heaviest was the A-3. I launched a few at 78,000lbs.


14 posted on 12/05/2017 10:17:45 AM PST by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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There are limits to China’s J-15 as it was developed based on the Su-33.

The SU-33 was flying off a carrier in the Med for Syrian operation. One crashed and they moved the planes to an airfield in Syria.

I think that the extra weight is a problem, even while it gives the SU-33 a greater fuel capacity and more weapons. 20 tons is a lot of weight to slow/stop from 160 mph to -0- mph in a hundred meters.

15 posted on 12/05/2017 10:24:48 AM PST by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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Getting them up aint the hardest part. What about getting them down... Hmmm? in a sea state 4?

I can get a plane up


16 posted on 12/05/2017 10:25:45 AM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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78,000 lbs?

Was that min fuel or did you launch heavy due to refueling options?

17 posted on 12/05/2017 10:26:00 AM PST by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

This conundrum sounds like something from a Abot & Costello movie or a from a 3 Stooges movie.


18 posted on 12/05/2017 10:27:52 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: texas booster

My guess is weps.

5.56mm


19 posted on 12/05/2017 10:28:26 AM PST by M Kehoe
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Dang. That’s heavier than the F-4 Phantom, which would have been my first choice at 62K. You’d really have to go full throttle into the wind to get 78K off the deck.


20 posted on 12/05/2017 10:28:32 AM PST by Salvavida (The Missouri citizen's militia sends its regards.)
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