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Japanese Mayor Says He’ll End SF sister City Status Over Comfort Women Statue
San Fracisco Chronicle ^ | Friday, November 24, 2017 | Evan Sernoffsky

Posted on 11/24/2017 7:26:57 PM PST by nickcarraway

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To: nickcarraway

The Sculpture

If the Japanese hadn't done it someone would have anyway.

21 posted on 11/24/2017 10:35:07 PM PST by the_daug
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
Well we did sail into Tokyo Bay in 1853 and threaten to shell them unless they agreed to trade with us.

That, we did. I believe a few shells were lobbed on shore as a warning. The USA and other western powers interfered with Japan. The USA action resulted in Japan trying to quickly modernize, resulting in Japan defeating the Chinese in a war, whereupon the USA and western powers forced Japan to not conquer Chinese territory and make peace with China and Russia. Which later led to war with Russia which Japan won, and again western powers again interfered. During the war with China, the USA embargoed Japan and choked off supplies. Yes, Japan started WWII with the USA, but the Japanese were pretty ticked off at US interference by then. Wars don't always have simple beginnings.

22 posted on 11/24/2017 10:39:04 PM PST by roadcat
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To: Tunehead54; SpaceBar

I figured it out - they put it in Chinatown.


23 posted on 11/24/2017 10:41:32 PM PST by Tunehead54
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To: nickcarraway

history is bitch especially if you are on the wrong side.


24 posted on 11/24/2017 10:44:59 PM PST by morphing libertarian (A proud member of the Ruthie Bader Afternoon Nap Club)
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To: SpaceBar
Honoring (comfort women) was the last thing on their mind. It's purpose is to keep a 75 year old scab picked raw, and it seems to be having the intended effect.

If the memory of the mass institutional rape and other atrocities the Japanese committed less than a lifetime ago has somehow "healed over" and been forgotten, then the infected abscess of their perverse revisionism should be surgically cut open and drained by building a statue like this in every city in the world. The horror of their despicable crimes should never be permitted to be forgotten by anyone. There is a good reason that the Japanese are the most hated and reviled nation in East Asia...they earned it!

25 posted on 11/24/2017 10:58:47 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: Ronaldus Magnus

Should there also be statues of political prisoners having their organs harvested by the communist chinese? We know it goes on.


26 posted on 11/24/2017 11:23:03 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: dfwgator

LOL! That and the big, ugly ass, over-grown lizard with the worst bad breath in the world who comes outta Tokyo Bay every now and then.


27 posted on 11/24/2017 11:30:38 PM PST by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: nickcarraway

Nice job of “coexisting” there, SF!


28 posted on 11/24/2017 11:31:49 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (CNN IS ISIS.)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus

Amen! The Japs are arrogant beyond belief when it comes to accepting the horror they inflicted on so many peoples of Asia and the West.


29 posted on 11/24/2017 11:32:29 PM PST by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: dfwgator

How bout a statue to the 25 million Chinese murdered by Japan or killed with their Black Death flea bombs. Or better yet—lets put up a state of the Lady of Liberty the students built in Tenamenn (sp?) Square in Peking—when they protested Communism. Think that’s going to happen?


30 posted on 11/25/2017 12:31:47 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: nickcarraway

So how come San Francisco gets to keep its monument to slavery from a 72 year old war that has nothing to do with them, but a Confederate battle flag is completely out of the question?


31 posted on 11/25/2017 2:26:01 AM PST by cincinnati65
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To: vette6387; nickcarraway

Despite us having dropped the world’s first and only nuclear devices on Japan, the Japanese still got off much too easily from their criminal behavior in WW II. There were no Nuremburg trials, no public punishments of war criminals to speak of, no “Bushido (Nazi) Hunters”. The monster that tortured Louie Zamperini and his fellow captives died in bed.


32 posted on 11/25/2017 4:07:11 AM PST by Hardastarboard (Three most annoying words on the internet - "Watch the Video")
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To: Hardastarboard

“comfort women” did happen...and shouldn’t have happened”........

So did the civil war, but it DID HAPPEN. So, we removed all the historical evidence. Nothing changes.


33 posted on 11/25/2017 4:31:46 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: Vigilanteman

Army Brat, Japan 1951-1961.
I never heard a Japanese kid say anything like that either.

Some years ago, my wife and I visited Pearl Harbor and took the tour of the Arizona Memorial. Motoring out to the shrine with us were a dozen Japanese young people, including several English speakers.
I asked one young woman why they were visiting the Arizona and she said, “We wanted to see what our fathers and grandfathers had done. It’s not generally known in Japan.”


34 posted on 11/25/2017 5:12:00 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: nickcarraway

But the mayor was happy to have a sister city full of sexually confused people.


35 posted on 11/25/2017 6:03:17 AM PST by KittyKares (Drain the Swamp)
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To: vette6387

when was the last time you visited Japan? and how often in the last 20 years? and where in Japan did you go?

Many trips to Japan I have had in the last 30 years and never, when I encountered groups of students, did they EVER ask me “why did you bomb us”. Their questions were always about American places and American celebrities, with them wanting to know if I was familiar with various American places or people. No asked “why did you bomb us”.


36 posted on 11/25/2017 7:01:34 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Vigilanteman

I am very glad you and I are both on this thread, lest readers get some posters misinformation about Japan as it is today.

I think Japan does leave off some serious questioning of it’s military-imperial past, particularly in its academic curriculum.

I also think that in most ways Japan today is not the Japan of its military-imperial era, and in it’s general relations with all its Asian neighbors is behaving as one of the most responsible and charitable nations.

Some of those who criticize Japan most have their own historical issues they too try as hard as they can to sweep under the rug. Some are even now not governed as democratically or with as peaceful intents as Japan. In some ways I’d like to say to many of them - let you who are without sin cast the first stone.


37 posted on 11/25/2017 7:12:21 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Wuli

Some years ago, WSJ ran a piece on a Japanese military officer who took the train to his base each morning. He always wore civilian clothes coming and going.


38 posted on 11/25/2017 7:24:09 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks; Wuli
I am guessing timing may be everything here, so a disclosure is in order. I last visited Japan in December 2016. I lived there 1988-2002. One of my daughters did have one teacher (female) who was a real piece of work and I could imagine her teaching the class very much as you describe.

This "teacher" was later transferred by the district to positions and subject matter which severely restricted her ability to proselytize children.

Thus, I am not stating Wuli's experience was impossible, merely uncommon based on my own experience and, apparently, Eric's as well. I did not actually sit in a class, merely reviewed the text books.

39 posted on 11/25/2017 8:45:42 AM PST by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: vette6387

My reply would be to ask a question to answer their question....”Why did we work to restore your nation and give you back your independence; should we not have killed your emperor and left your nation a burning wreck?” (and then go silent and walk away).


40 posted on 11/26/2017 9:41:17 PM PST by mdmathis6 (Men and Devils can't out-"alinsksy" God! He knows where "all the bodies are buried!")
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