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Organic Farmers Lose Battle Over Soilless Hydroponic Growing
Organic Authority ^ | Emily Monaco | NOVEMBER 6, 2017

Posted on 11/14/2017 2:31:39 PM PST by nickcarraway

The National Organic Standards Board voted last Wednesday to reject proposals prohibiting hydroponic and aquaponic production methods from being certified USDA organic. This decision followed intense lobbying efforts by groups in the organic community to urge the Board to vote to restrict certification to soil-based systems.

“It was sad, because the rally speeches and all the testimonies of the farmers were so moving,” says Dr. Linley Dixon, lead scientist at the Cornucopia Institute, an industry watchdog organization that was quite vocal in its support of the ban. “Everyone did such a good job explaining the situation, and it didn’t matter. It was very sad. There were a lot of tears.”

The 15-person Board voted eight to seven to reject the proposal. There are approximately 100 certified organic hydroponic operations in the United States.

This issue has been debated within the organic industry for years. Those against the continued certification of soilless systems argue that such techniques violate the basic principles of organic, which Abby Youngblood, executive director of the National Organic Coalition, told NPR “are really about soil health, regenerating the soil.”

Dixon agrees, noting that hydroponic systems do not cycle nutrients back into the soil to build soil health, an important tenant of organic.

Those in favor of certified organic hydroponics, however, argue that these techniques can be quite sustainable and energy-efficient. Hydroponic systems are also generally devoid of pesticides, even those permitted by the organic label, due to their indoor nature.

In 2010, the Board recommended against permitting soilless systems to be certified organic, but the USDA elected not to follow the recommendation at the time.

Dixon hopes that the USDA will put “rigorous” standards into place for container farming, though she notes that outgoing Board member Francis Thicke attempted to present a plan for such standards at the meeting, recommending the adoption of a rule requiring container growers to use compost.

“It was clear that nobody on the hydroponic side was going to be okay with it,” says Dixon.

Those who are disappointed with this ruling blame industry influence for their loss, saying that big soilless growers such as Driscoll’s and Wholesum Harvest have too much clout with the NOSB. In his closing statement, Thicke said that “industry has an outsized and growing influence on USDA — and on the NOSB (including through NOSB appointments) — compared to the influence of organic farmers, who started this organic farming movement.”

Dixon believes that the organic farmers who started the movement should have the final word on what constitutes organic. “You don’t come into something and say, ‘What I’m doing should be organic,’” she says. “You come into it and say, ‘Do I fit here?’ And we’ve clearly said you don’t, because you’re not cycling nutrients.”

The NOSB did vote to ban aeroponics from being certified organic; there are currently no certified organic aeroponic operations in the U.S., though several firms were researching the technology for organic production before the vote.

Note: A previous version of this article indicated that Driscoll’s was a hydroponic grower. Driscoll’s does not grow hydroponically but rather in containers. The article has been modified to reflect this.


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1 posted on 11/14/2017 2:31:39 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

There are alternate organic standards. People who are up and this stuff (I am not one of them) know what they want to look for. Could you imagine observant Jews trusting a government standards committee to certify kosher foods?


2 posted on 11/14/2017 2:38:03 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: nickcarraway

If chemicals contain the Element Carbon, by definition, it’s ORGANIC!


3 posted on 11/14/2017 2:39:46 PM PST by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: nickcarraway

Hydroponic is about as ‘organic’ as you can get.

I have eaten hydroponic tomatoes and they are excellent!.................


4 posted on 11/14/2017 2:40:33 PM PST by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: nickcarraway

Id be more impressed with the usda if they hadn’t approved that high fructose corn syrup crap. Just follow the money.


5 posted on 11/14/2017 2:41:55 PM PST by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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To: nickcarraway
They just don't want the competition.

6 posted on 11/14/2017 2:47:58 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Kill: NFL, Hollywood, NBA, BLM, CAIR, Antifa, SPLC, CNN, ESPN, NPR, TWITTER, FACEBOOK)
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To: nickcarraway

Seems like the idea behind “organic” is no chemical-based, or factory- produced fertilizers. And it also seems to me that all of the liquids in a hydroponic system would be just that—out of a factory. Although I suppose a guy could run water through a big tank of cow manure or rotted fish and get the hydroponics without the factory’s involvement.

The thing it seems none of the organic earth people seem to understand though is that the plant doesn’t really care if it gets its nitrogen from a dead fish or from out of a plastic bag produced by Phillips Petroleum. Nitrogen is nitrogen.


7 posted on 11/14/2017 2:52:07 PM PST by Dr. Zzyzx
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To: Red Badger
Our Town turned down a huge hydroponic farm cuz they said it wasn't farming. Idiots...cuz they buy the hydroponic tomatoes, a farm product, at our local Aldi. The project went one Town over.

People are really dumb. They'd rather have tractors and fertilizers and "summer only" vegies. Just dumb.

8 posted on 11/14/2017 2:52:33 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: nickcarraway

Whats wrong with Hydroponic growing ...??

All the pot growers use it.......


9 posted on 11/14/2017 2:55:43 PM PST by njslim
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To: Red Badger
You may be surprised (as I was!) that there are entire warehouse districts across the country that have sat empty for years that are being converted to hydroponic growing facilities.

There are a fair number of them on the South side of Chicago at this point and it's becoming a burgeoning industry. I was wondering how tomato's being sold at my local grocer are still "locally grown" when growing season is over, and now I know!

10 posted on 11/14/2017 2:56:17 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

Energy efficient LED lighting makes hydroponic growing more economically viable.


11 posted on 11/14/2017 3:05:48 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: nickcarraway
“You come into it and say, ‘Do I fit here?’ And we’ve clearly said you don’t. . ."

Okay, so to her, organic farming is not a method with principles, it's a club or a union, or maybe a cult. I thought it was about growing healthy food to benefit your paying customers by leaving out the garbage and the chemicals, while still coming up with good, ripe fruit and vegetables.

12 posted on 11/14/2017 3:12:18 PM PST by SamuraiScot
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To: SauronOfMordor
The things I learn on here sometimes are amazing.

My youngest son was talking about hydroponics the other day and said the same thing: LED Lighting is why Hydroponics is taking off in such a big way.

I must be getting old, I can't keep up with this stuff anymore. Maybe it really is time to turn the reigns over to someone younger .....

OH HELL NO!

13 posted on 11/14/2017 3:12:54 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Dr. Zzyzx

Aquaponics - growing fish and then filtering the water through the Hydroponics system to clean the nitrates out of the water.


14 posted on 11/14/2017 3:15:27 PM PST by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt)
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To: usconservative

“here are entire warehouse districts across the country that have sat empty for years that are being converted to hydroponic growing facilities.”

I’m trying to do just that in my town. My town is receptive of the idea - fully.

My bank account is not. But I bank at E.F. Nuthin’ so that’s a huge hurdle.


15 posted on 11/14/2017 3:24:14 PM PST by Celerity
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To: Dr. Zzyzx

“And it also seems to me that all of the liquids in a hydroponic system would be just that—out of a factory. “

The way it’s done is a bit more sophisticated than “running water” through a tank of cow manure:

“organic fertilizer is degraded into inorganic nutrients by microorganisms in the hydroponic solution via ammonification and nitrification. The microorganisms are cultured with a method of multiple parallel mineralization. The culture solution can be used as the hydroponic solution.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_hydroponics


16 posted on 11/14/2017 3:25:09 PM PST by catnipman ( Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Red Badger

Only free range tomatoes! /s


17 posted on 11/14/2017 3:31:18 PM PST by Do_Tar (To my NSA handler: Only kidding.)
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To: Red Badger

The hydroponic solution has to have the correct mix of minerals in the water.

I’ve had some hydroponic tomatoes that had no taste at all.


18 posted on 11/14/2017 3:38:11 PM PST by Rebelbase (The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it.-- H.L. Mencken)
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To: nickcarraway

As someone who’s wife owned and operated a hydroponics store: To a plant N is Nitrogen, P is Phosphorous, and K is Potassium. To a plant, it doesn’t care where it gets it from. Or any of the trace nutrients as well. Using raw nutrients are as organic as anything else.


19 posted on 11/14/2017 3:51:58 PM PST by Magnatron
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To: Sacajaweau

I agree.. Hydroponics are terrific and should not be disqualified but the hard working , back breaking Organic farmers do not want the competition.
That being said, our bodies Need the minerals from the Earth as well, there is that.
I am all organic, no GMO’s, grow as much of my own as I can in a limited season.


20 posted on 11/14/2017 3:58:53 PM PST by acapesket (all happy now?)
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