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The Real Culprit Behind North Korea's Missile Threat May Be Vladimir Putin
The Hudson Institute ^ | 9/19/2017 | Arthur Herman

Posted on 11/14/2017 9:47:07 AM PST by GoldenState_Rose

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To: GoldenState_Rose

No, it is much simpler

Russia provides to create jobs. Weapons sold mean jobs


41 posted on 11/14/2017 1:59:58 PM PST by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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To: GoldenState_Rose
There is a difference between Soviet Russia and Putins Russia......this you certainly realize is so. Putin wants the country restored so it's citizens are lifted up.....as well as his himself.....and he was accomplishing this well until Syria and Ukraine...of which both we interfered with..and that's just a known fact.

They are NOT going to ever allow Putin more than their leash will allow.......so he's bellied up to Asia and China for the time being....that will not be long lasting.

I am well aware of the ‘Layers’ in Russia...one does not have to live there to see these. Also as China rose I knew, as others did here, to keep an eye on how soon it would be before Russia got in bed with China and vice-versa. Obama/Hillary created the environment for just that to happen..and it did exactly as we thought. But it will not be long lasting...The Belt Road Initiative will alter the entire region.

42 posted on 11/14/2017 2:03:33 PM PST by caww (freeen)
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To: GoldenState_Rose

Where it came from Hudson is all Gop elites.....and it’s intent as anti-Trumpers to use that very thing to take him down....the agenda is to keep the blame Russia retoric ‘feeding’ into the media. I thought I made that clear.
The article is a fabricated article framed and delivered by those set on impeaching Trump. ..and distract from what’s really happening in Washington within our Congress and other Depts.


43 posted on 11/14/2017 2:13:20 PM PST by caww (freeen)
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To: GoldenState_Rose

BTW the article itself is old...Sept.


44 posted on 11/14/2017 2:15:03 PM PST by caww (freeen)
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To: xone

It’s tough to say. They have been “neutral” since 1499 when they left the Holy Roman Empire. In 1506, Pope Julius II hired the Swiss Guard because they were considered the best warriors in the world. They have been guarding the Vatican since.

Switzerland was overtaken by French revolutionaries in 1799. More of a civil war, but France did send troops to help stablize the region.

Once Napoleon was defeated, Switzerland was granted neutrality once again.

So, I guess the answer is technically never.


45 posted on 11/14/2017 6:22:10 PM PST by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: GoldenState_Rose

Ukraine sold the engines to the Norks. The government imposed ban of Russian trade made Ukrainian defence and airspace companies lose like 90% of their business.
They ‘d sell to devil himself right now just to stay afloat.


46 posted on 11/14/2017 7:47:06 PM PST by NorseViking
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To: caww

As TRUMP has said, it is due to *decades* of poor U.S. leadership that
1) North Korea is as nuclear as it is and
2) That China and Russia hold the cards they do.

As for Vladimir Putin: he is a 5 foot 7, heavily botoxed, vastly overrated theater actor whose 15 minutes on stage are going to be up soon. And if you want to understand his entire worldview in a nutshell. Watch “All About Eve.”

Eve Harrington = the United States
Margo Channing = ruins of the Soviet Empire

“He’s not jealous of the U.S.” - are you kidding me? Thanks to years of Putin’s leadership and rhetoric, the entire country of Russia RUNS on jealousy and resentment for America. There is no other uniting ideology! After communism, the search for one has been their great challenge and — religion, ethnic bonds, etc... proved to be too weak to rally around.

So all that’s left is to avenge the Fall of the Soviet Union (and Russian Empire.)

Tired of the American self-loathing I am seeing on these boards. It’s like Trump trying to tell the NFL players to stand, but you responding with “No, Not for no Neo-Con Globalist Soros-Rothschild-Mccain-sing-along song!”

Please.


47 posted on 11/14/2017 7:48:02 PM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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To: NorseViking

Dearest NorseViking,

This article is dealing specifically with Russia’s vantage point. Not negating the role of other (smaller, less powerful) governments.

What is it that you and people who think like you want: for America. For Russia?


48 posted on 11/14/2017 7:59:20 PM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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To: PJammers
Once Napoleon was defeated, Switzerland was granted neutrality once again. So, I guess the answer is technically never.

Never is the answer to the question of 'never been invaded' but the area of Switzerland has been invaded many times. Romans, various Germanic tribes, the Franks, Burgundians all had a piece of it at one time. Had they not been, what entity granted their neutrality? They have been a federal state since 1848 and not invaded. I suspect that their supposed invulnerability to outside force ties with some conspiracy you had in mind.

49 posted on 11/14/2017 8:47:12 PM PST by xone
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To: PJammers

BTW, to what DMZ are you referring?


50 posted on 11/14/2017 8:50:17 PM PST by xone
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To: xone

Correct. The country of Switzerland has never been invaded. Prior to 1848 they were a confederation of cantons or regions. Before then they were a part of the Holy Roman Empire. However, they have always been a garrison of troops and money. They have always been employed by the Pope.

Swiss troops must be Swiss are forbidden to join foreign forces. Every Swiss male must attend military training. Weapon ownership in Switzerland is mandatory.

The Swiss guard is “hired” to protect the Pope at all costs. Like our secret service, they are sworn to secrecy. What if an entire “religious” institution isn’t what it says it is?

What if this institution is just a front? A “face” for the largest and longest running con ever played on the world?

Who are the Rothchilds?

Who are the Windsors?

Who owns the Federal Reserve Bank?

Who were the Templars?

Who did they worship?

Where are they now?

Why is it a mystery?

Why is this relevent?

Pray.

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51 posted on 11/15/2017 7:22:55 AM PST by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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Korea. Why are they there?

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Answer the questions. Pray for our country.


52 posted on 11/15/2017 7:33:39 AM PST by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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Korea. Why are they there?

Ostensibly to monitor the SK forces as part of the ceasefire. Six guys? C'mon man!

53 posted on 11/15/2017 10:36:45 AM PST by xone
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To: xone

Correct. They are monitoring. For who? Switerland? Why would they care?


54 posted on 11/15/2017 1:57:07 PM PST by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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Their mission: The only independent military body on the Korean peninsula, the NNSC has reinvented its post-Cold War self as an impartial observer to the annual U.S.-South Korea military exercises that the North complains are preparation for attack and the U.S.-South Korean side says are defensive.

Through regular inspections, Swiss and Swedish officers make sure those exercises do not infringe the armistice.

The NNSC also operates an education programme, traveling to South Korean frontline units to lecture on the armistice that ended hostilities in 1953. And it is that document, not the Swedish, Swiss or U.S. capitals, from which the NNSC takes its orders.

From: https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2016/04/01/asia-pacific/swiss-swedish-troops-remain-korea-dmz-monitor-1953-truce/#.Wg0PDWhSyyI

My question remains, there are 10 guys there, 5 Swiss, 5 Swedes. Why only concern for the Swiss? As for why they care, it is an easy gig for a Swedish MajGen, I expect it is also easy duty and money for the Swiss participants. Some appearance of relevance in the world apart from that. So where is the 'beef', spell it out.

55 posted on 11/15/2017 8:15:42 PM PST by xone
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To: xone

Research the questions and pray for our President.


56 posted on 11/16/2017 4:04:34 AM PST by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: xone

Where was Kim Jung Un edjucated?
What just happened in Saudi Arabia?
Who is Saudi prince Alwaleed bin Talal Al Saud?
Who owns the top floors of Mandalay Bay?
Who paid for Obama’s edjucation?
What happen in Las Vegas on 1 Oct?
What was Operation Mockingbird?
What was Operation Snow White?
Pray for our President.


57 posted on 11/16/2017 8:47:23 AM PST by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: PJammers
Research the questions and pray for our President.

Or you could just spit it out, I already pray for the President. Researching your questions will just get into more dubious conspiracy theories. State your claim without the smoke and mirrors.

58 posted on 11/16/2017 9:41:10 AM PST by xone
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To: xone

The questions paint a picture. These are not conspiracies. Operation Mockingbird was real.

Operation Snow White is real.

Kim was edjucated in Switzerland. Fact

Operation Mockingbird CIA hired media operatives. Fact

Operation Snow White, Scientology infiltrated the FBI and other government agencies. Fact

The Saudi Royal family owns the top two floors in the 4 seasons hotel, which is in the Mandalay bay Casino. Fact

Prince Taheel is one of the richest people on earth. He funds political campaigns in the US. Fact

He paid for Obama’s education. Fact.

He was arrested in Saudi Arabia recently and all of his assets were confiscated. Fact

Newly Crowned Prince Salman, heir to the throne, was in Las Vegas the night of the shooting. Fact

What would happen to the world population if they were told everything that they know was a complete lie.

90% would lose there minds. This is why everything must be rolled out slowly. What happened in SA will happen here. Then in Asia. Then in the EU. There will be people who will resist the truth.

Why are politicians resigning?
Why are 1000s of people, all over the would,being convicted of sexual abuse, especially children?
Why do both Clinton and McCain have boots on?
Why are there over 1000 sealed indictments?
Who protects Obama?
Who protects Hillary?
Who is in charge of them?

Has Trump ever lied to the American people?
Read his speeches. He tells you exactly what he is going to do.

Look for the public annoucement of Podesta indictment.

“My fellow Americans, the storm is upon us..”

What are “State Secrets”?
When can the President use military intelligence?

Remember, Trump was not suppose to win.

Stay vigilant and continue praying. The good guys are winning.


59 posted on 11/16/2017 3:09:06 PM PST by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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The good guys are winning.

Nothing wrong with that, outside of the Saudi stuff it is irrelevant where shorty went to school. Swiss taking over the world??? C'mon man!

60 posted on 11/16/2017 3:43:54 PM PST by xone
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