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The Texas church shooter should not have been legally able to buy a gun
BusinessInsider.com ^ | 11-6-2017 | Alex Lockie

Posted on 11/06/2017 7:48:17 AM PST by servo1969

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To: MrEdd

Yes, I have an Honorable Discharge myself.

The media is all over the place on the guy’s background.


41 posted on 11/06/2017 8:30:04 AM PST by ltc8k6
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To: servo1969

“Yes it is. You can buy a long gun from another state
per federal law as long as it is legal in the state of
the purchase and your state of residence. Hand guns
you cannot.”

There are no checkpoints for guns at state borders-
only Calif/Nevada/Hawaii etc. where they check for PLANTS
and FLOWERS.

This is pure BS— Everyone here bought guns in 1790`s
thru 1800`s thru 1900- thru 1950`s with no paperwork
[160 years!- even if you were 14 years old!]
You could take that gun to Vermont, Maine, New Hampshire etc.
with no questions asked.
Thus you can see the infringements in the last 170 years
which are all blatantly unconstitutional infringements
on the Second Amendment.
.
.


42 posted on 11/06/2017 8:34:01 AM PST by bunkerhill7 (((("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")))))))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Police/FBI interview press conference just stated he was a private security guard.


43 posted on 11/06/2017 8:35:25 AM PST by bunkerhill7 (((("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")))))))
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To: Magnum44
What was needed here was an instant NICS check.

I'm sure there was, it's federal law.

44 posted on 11/06/2017 8:36:28 AM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: MileHi

Yeah, I meant one that works. Which I tried to express in the remainder of the post.


45 posted on 11/06/2017 8:37:52 AM PST by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: T-Bird45
I was replying to someone who thought Adam Lanza could legally buy a rifle.

Don’t know about this mass shooter, but most can pass the background check. Adam Lanza could legally buy a rifle, but not a handgun due to his age. The Columbine shooters were to young and used a straw buyer instead.

46 posted on 11/06/2017 8:38:38 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: servo1969

No aboveboard licensed firearms dealer is knowingly going to sell a weapon to someone who does not pass an NCIS check with a possible exception in the case of a delay as noted below.

An FFL license is too valuable and too difficult to obtain to risk on such a foolish act.
And the potential penalties for doing so are severe.

If the FFL dealer correctly fills out and submits the ATF Form 4473 and the background check comes back approved the gun dealer normally would have no obligation or justification to refuse a sale.

If the government response is delayed three business days with no decision the FFL dealer may, but is not required to, make the sale.

https://www.fbi.gov/services/cjis/nics/delayed-firearm-transaction


47 posted on 11/06/2017 8:44:02 AM PST by Vlad The Inhaler (Libtards wish anarchy and death for others, but exempt themselves.)
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To: Magnum44

And that’s the fallacy, background checks are never going to stop the nutters.


48 posted on 11/06/2017 8:51:58 AM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Magnum44
was needed here was an instant NICS check.

The "I" in NICS stands for "Instant".

As in:

"National Instant Criminal Background Check System"


49 posted on 11/06/2017 8:52:23 AM PST by Vlad The Inhaler (Libtards wish anarchy and death for others, but exempt themselves.)
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To: Vlad The Inhaler

As stated to another, I meant a NICS that works. This one clearly did not. I tried to make that point in the remainder of the post. Sorry if my post confused anyone.

Its not really an instant check if it failed.


50 posted on 11/06/2017 8:56:55 AM PST by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Gotcha - didn’t check that link to the previous post.


51 posted on 11/06/2017 9:04:00 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: T-Bird45

Np happens sometimes.


52 posted on 11/06/2017 9:13:38 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: servo1969; All

ANYBODY SEE THIS ?
monitoring a local station conservative talkie a caller claimed face book (or whatever) pulled Kelleys reply bragging about shaving his beard to a muzzy buddy was pulled but some one duplicated the site before being yanked .


53 posted on 11/06/2017 9:15:04 AM PST by mosesdapoet (Mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslin)
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To: MileHi

“And that’s the fallacy, background checks are never going to stop the nutters.”

Heck, I was perfectly sane when I bought my guns.

Booga booga.


54 posted on 11/06/2017 9:26:35 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

IIRC, the firearms used by Adam Lanza belonged to his mother.


55 posted on 11/06/2017 9:29:14 AM PST by Chewbarkah
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To: dsc

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56 posted on 11/06/2017 9:30:24 AM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Chewbarkah

The pistol the Charleston AME Church psycho killer used was a birthday present from his father months earlier. These parents, like Adam Lanza’s mom and the NW Community College killer who asked victims “Are you a Christian?”, who knowingly enable their deranged offspring to kill should be prosecuted too.


57 posted on 11/06/2017 11:15:07 AM PST by GAgal
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To: MrEdd

DISHONORABLE...DOMESTIC ABUSE, WHICH IS A CRIME, NO GUN RIGHTS LEFT UNLESS TEXAS IS DIFFERENT THAN OTHER STATES. 12 months incarceration. Took 4 yrs for crap JAG to get this POS COURT MARTIALED THEN INCARCERATED!


58 posted on 11/06/2017 11:15:40 AM PST by GailA (Ret. SCPO wife: suck it up buttercups it's President Donald Trump!)
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To: GailA

Read more articles.

The same idiot reporters who think a cross bb pistol is a Glock just reported that a BCD is the same as a Dishonorable Discharge in this article. But if you read more articles the majority state that he got a Bad Conduct Discharge.

A Dishonorable Discharge would indeed have been the equivalent of a felony, but a Bad Conduct Discharge only equates to a misdemeanor.


59 posted on 11/06/2017 11:21:04 AM PST by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: Perseverando

Wish the IDIOT MSM got Facts accurate, there is a world of difference in a Bad Conduct Discharge, and a DISHONORABLE for VIOLENT DOMESTIC ABUSE where the person is INCARCERATED for 12 months following the Court Martial. http://nypost.com/2017/11/05/texas-church-shooter-was-a-dishonorably-discharged-air-force-veteran/

Even the UK press has better coverage, what about the hostage? Multiple guns and he didn’t trigger Red Flags? DISHONORABLE took 4 yrs for JAG to get done. Serves 12 months, 2 yrs later amasses a small arsenal?


60 posted on 11/06/2017 11:25:36 AM PST by GailA (Ret. SCPO wife: suck it up buttercups it's President Donald Trump!)
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