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GOP House tax bill would deliver blow to California homeowners
The Los Angeles Times ^ | November 2nd, 2017 | By Lisa Mascaro and Jim Puzzanghera

Posted on 11/02/2017 4:41:47 PM PDT by Mariner

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Once you wade through the partisan disdain, this is a good primer on what the plan does and does not do to or for you.

Personally, I'm totally screwed. Lose many of the state deductions...AND the alimony deduction.

The friggin' alimony deduction. What is THAT logic? It's STILL income to my ex, so we are BOTH paying taxes on the same money.

Rotten damn Republicans.

1 posted on 11/02/2017 4:41:47 PM PDT by Mariner
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Sucks to be a Kali-fornian. LMAO! Don’t be mad, I live on Long Island,People’s Republic of New York.


2 posted on 11/02/2017 4:45:29 PM PDT by MGunny
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I’m ok with this. What these high tax states need to do is cut their tax rates in order to get back in line with other, lower tax states.

Will the pols do that in CA? Not a chance. They’d rather weep and wail and shift the blame elsewhere.


3 posted on 11/02/2017 4:46:43 PM PDT by bkopto
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It’s NOT reform, it’s a shell game to raise taxes on individuals.


4 posted on 11/02/2017 4:46:50 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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Mariner, you’ve been tracking this closer than just about anyone else. Do you know if the deduction for state/local SALES tax remains? Of course that wasn’t available to those who took the state/local income tax deduction previously.


5 posted on 11/02/2017 4:47:21 PM PDT by House Atreides (BOYCOTT the NFL, its products and players 100% - PERMANENTLY.)
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***WARNING***

Don’t believe these Lying Leftist Media outlets that proved themselves during the 2016 campaign to be operatives of the DNC and intentional liars. They are presumed to be lying and we should presume what they publish is a lie. The presumption can only be rebutted with the outlet providing clear and convincing evidence they are not lying.

If this story is true and has some redeeming value, at least get the story from a relatively reliable source, not from a known Lying Leftist operative posing as a “news” organization.

6 posted on 11/02/2017 4:47:39 PM PDT by Jim W N
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Yeah this totally blows for me too. In fact the few people I've talked to in states not having a state income tax say it sucks for them too - no sure why yet.

Punish the blue states screw we aren't giving Trump any Electoral College votes. Looks like I need a more creative accountant.

7 posted on 11/02/2017 4:47:49 PM PDT by datricker (Cut Taxes Repeal ACA Deport DACA - Americans First, Build the Wall, Lock her up MAGA!)
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We’re pretty screwed by the proposal, too. How about cutting spending? Isn’t 20 Trillion in debt enough? Is Congress waiting for 30 trillion before they start thinking about cutting spending? Or are they waiting for economic collapse?


8 posted on 11/02/2017 4:48:30 PM PDT by FixedandDilated
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“It’s NOT reform, it’s a shell game to raise taxes on individuals.”

It moves the tax burden from lower-middle class, non-payers and the very rich, to include corporations...To the Upper middle class. Those between 100k and 200k who itemize and have a mortgage. Especially if they have a passel of kids.

It’s revenue neutral. By DEFINITION that is not a tax cut.


9 posted on 11/02/2017 4:51:23 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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California? Sympathy can be found in the dictionary.

I am tired of supporting blue states.


10 posted on 11/02/2017 4:52:29 PM PDT by Redleg Duke (He is leading us in Making America Great Again!)
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I’m in Pennsylvania, a state that voted for Trump. Low income tax here plus a six percent sales tax.

Property taxes bad but property values much lower than other states.

I’m not paying near 10-thousand in property taxes.

California didn’t vote for Trump so I guess that state gets a worse deal.

I guess its calculated as a tax cut for people who tend to vote Republican.

But the big problem is out of control spending in DC and I know they will increase the debt ceiling.

That’s what concerns me more than anything I get or don’t get in a tax plan. We should be concerned about that.


11 posted on 11/02/2017 4:54:12 PM PDT by Nextrush (Freedom is everybody's business: Remember Pastor Niemoller)
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Gosh, i hope we don’t lose California in the next election.


12 posted on 11/02/2017 4:54:22 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ...)
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“I am tired of supporting blue states.”

You’ve never done anything in your life to support a blue state. The blue states support YOU.

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/05/which-states-are-givers-and-which-are-takers/361668/

And we are tired of supporting those who do not enough to support themselves.


13 posted on 11/02/2017 4:55:36 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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“in a effort to pay for cuts elsewhere.”

The minute I hear about needing to “paying for” a tax cut, i know i am listening to a blithering idiot.


14 posted on 11/02/2017 4:56:39 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ...)
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They tax you on interest “earned”, but not interest paid?

WTF is THAT?

Increase Std Ded by ~ amount of taken away personal exemptions? That helps no one, especially those who deduct.

It’s a total scam and will not reflect well on Trump of Congress.


15 posted on 11/02/2017 4:57:09 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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“Gosh, i hope we don’t lose California in the next election.”

What about those 14 CA House Republicans? Any use for them?

OR the combined 34 House Republicans in CA, NY, NJ and IL?

Perhaps they are of no concern either?


16 posted on 11/02/2017 4:58:10 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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“What these high tax states need to do is cut their tax rates in order to get back in line with other, lower tax states.”

It isn’t the income taxes that are the problem, it’s the mortgage interest. If you live in Dogpatch, and have a home that cost you say $150k, you’ll do fine, but in the Coastal States, houses start at $500k. What I worry about is what it could do to the real estate market, causing people who were counting on their home’s equity to finance their retirement.


17 posted on 11/02/2017 4:58:32 PM PDT by vette6387 (LOCK HER UP! COMEY TOO.)
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That is outrageous. I bet that will be fixed in conference.....


18 posted on 11/02/2017 4:59:45 PM PDT by zoomie92
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Californians get screwed two ways - lower mortgage deductions and no deductions for state income tax.

Nevada and Arizona, get ready for an invasion.


19 posted on 11/02/2017 5:02:29 PM PDT by aquila48
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Property taxes bad but property values much lower than other states.

I’m not paying near 10-thousand in property taxes.

Guess you aren't in the five counties surrounding Philadelphia. 200k assessment easily tops 10k in property tax.

20 posted on 11/02/2017 5:02:49 PM PDT by Abby4116
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