Posted on 10/19/2017 5:07:06 AM PDT by x1stcav
I treat women I date and have relationships with EXTREMELY WELL and they **DON’T** want it.
— 2nd recent woman went back to an EXTREMELY abusive guy after saying she “loves me more than any woman can love any other man”.
— Most recent woman went back to a bad guy and is now in therapy to find out why she’s attracted to bad men.
MANY women before that say the same thing over & over..... “You’re so nice to me. You deserve somebody better.”
As they go on to settle with a guy who treats them like ——.
Uh.
Having been out on the dating scene again the past year after a near 30 year hiatus, I'll tell you point blank these aren't the women you'd want anyway.
They have low self esteem, think they aren't "good enough" and are typically looking for someone who treats them accordingly. The sad truth is, so many people (and not just women, men do it too) are willing to live like that because it's "what they know" and "what they're comfortable with."
They don't want to change or change their self perception because that's hard work to do especially as we get older.
I've been dating the same woman for almost three months now. Two months into our relationship we had a very deep conversation about how she was treated in the past and how I treat her. I've been nothing short of shocked and at times embarrassed by how she and other women I've dated this past year have been treated. Most of how you treat a woman is really just common sense, having good manners and treating them like a lady.
Granted I'm almost 55 and I know how to treat a lady and court properly and that appears to be a lost "art" these days. I blame social media and our "online society" where people are no longer afraid to say offline the things they'd say online.
BTW, I did click on the article (even though it’s a blog and not “breaking news”) and have to say - the author is 100% spot on. It’s actually quite a refreshing read.
Yep, I’m in my 50’s too..
2nd to last woman went back to a guy who raped & beat her many times.
She cited “Stockholm Syndrome”.
Dating at this age is rough. It seems like everyone out there is messed up in some way, it's all a matter of whether or not they're too messed up to deal with in order to have a relationship with them. Sad, but true.
God, I hate a man who keeps asking. He does NOT care how uncomfortable he makes a woman. He cares about getting what he wants, and the woman is a goal, or a target, not a person who is just trying to do her job and pay her bills. It really makes work life uncomfortable, but who cares how a woman feels. Men rarely listen to us, which is how this whole problem started.
Yeah, I agree.
And as a man I can say that a lot of men are like that. There is a reason they say women are a civilizing influence on men.
But my wife does say that women are more crass than men. Men are just so direct about it that it is obvious.
Watch Fatal Attraction. ;)
But seriously, the real problem is that men and women are different, and just as men can annoy women in some ways, women can annoy men in other ways. And respectable women have a difficult time saying to the guy that doesn’t get the hint, “F*** off. I wouldn’t go out with you if you were the last man on earth. I don’t like you, we are not compatible. Comprende?”
Yeah ... (sigh ...... ) gone are the good old days when a man could just club a prospective mate over the head and drag her by the hair back to his cave to have his way with her ........
Families are a civilizing influence on men and women alike. The idea that women are not sex driven and deprived is just Victorian propaganda that only idiots still believe. Go create a profile on tinder if you don't believe me.
I would disagree with this one. If this is at work, being asked once is uncomfortable enough. If she’s said “No” once already, DROP IT.
People change. A standard theme in chick films is the woman who first hates the guy and ends up loving him. This is not based on fantasy, but reality. When a woman says, “no”, it is not unreasonable to believe she needs to get to know you and will come around. It happens. A lot. And us men, being men, hope for that with some women.
As a man, I believe the only time a woman has a “harrassment” case is when she has explicitly told a man to never ask again. At that point if he asks again he is stalking.
Oh, I believe you. My wife has really filled me in on what women are REALLY like when men are not around.
When I say women are a civilizing influence, I mean that men are inspired to act civilized to win women. If all men cared about was a roll in the hay every now and then with a prostitute, things would be rather course. Not many of us would get out of tents as our “permanent” dwelling place. And you can forget about “taking out the trash”.
Absolutely true.
Females are the gatekeepers of society. Men alter their behavior to gain the favors of females.
This is one of the fundamental pillars of a civilized civilization. Without it, you get defective societies, like those found under islam.
Almost every post around here anymore brings out the Puritans.
You jakes are a little slower than usual, though.
God, I hate a man who keeps asking. He does NOT care how uncomfortable he makes a woman. He cares about getting what he wants, and the woman is a goal, or a target, not a person who is just trying to do her job and pay her bills. It really makes work life uncomfortable, but who cares how a woman feels. Men rarely listen to us, which is how this whole problem started.
We just celebrated our 50th anniversary the end of last month. Should I have given up after the first NO?
Well, no, not really, only about 1% of them. Anyway, I was just poking some fun at you for posting a blog (excerpted, too) in Breaking News. No harm intended, FRiend.
Now OTOH, humblegunner, he's more of a Puritan. Just sayin'... :-)
> You jakes are a little slower than usual, though.
Not me, man, I was your very first comment. I was right on top of it. :-) Incidentally, the Mods must have agreed that it wasn't Breaking News, given that they relocated it to "Bloggers", as I had suggested to you.
You've been on FR longer than I have by a few years, but nevertheless, you might find JimRob's post about bloggers instructive. The crux of what he said was this guideline:
"...unless we say otherwise your blog material should be posted to our bloggers forum and it would be best if you do not excerpt your own material and if you would actually join in on the discussion here on FR..."His guideline was directed mainly at self-posting bloggers, but also apply to FReepers posting material from blogsites. The reason I added my comment #2 above was:
Fifty years ago, most unmarried women were only working till they found a husband. It’s not really like that now.
“Fifty years ago, most unmarried women were only working till they found a husband. It’s not really like that now.”
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Not so.
We stayed working until we had kids——the ones that didn’t have kids kept working.
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Good point. Well, presumably everyone knows that if a co-worker is married, you don’t ask her out.
Fifty years ago, most unmarried women were only working till they found a husband. It’s not really like that now.
Doesn’t apply at all. This was a summer job for both of us before heading back to college. I was 18 and she was 19.
Okay, I guess you want me to say that because you got a wife out of it, that proves that men should be encouraged to harass women at work. I cannot tell you that. I’m sorry you want to hear it from me, but I can’t. I have had the experience of being bugged at work by men who wanted to date me, and I did not want to date them, and I did not want to marry them, and they just made my work life uncomfortable. I and many other women do really wish that in a professional setting, men would just let us do our jobs without making sure we know at every minute they are watching us and thinking about sex.
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