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[N. Korea] Trump calls for ‘tip-top shape’ nukes, NK claims ‘balance of power’ with US
Korea Herald ^ | Oct 12, 2017 | Choi He-suk

Posted on 10/12/2017 7:19:47 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

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To: LouieFisk; Paul R.; Jet Jaguar; gaijin; TigerLikesRooster; NorthMountain

Here, in video, are some fascinating, first hand insights into real living for many in North Korea.

North Korea’s Darkest Secrets Documentary 2017 | Inside North Korea Documentary 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9NolWrP4gk

You’ll see that most Americans are unaware of the extents of the most important weakness of North Korea’s leadership: its cruelty.


21 posted on 10/12/2017 11:17:21 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Paul R.

“I understand what you are saying, but, dependency on humans is a dicey proposition too.”

That’s actually what I was getting at there - humans are also a variable that can work either way, for and against ya.

About NK launch capability, that’s where Murphy would really factor in. The intelligence would have to be so good and current to hit them all. This would also have to include their nuke-caapable submarines, mobile launchers and nukes tucked under some of it’s mountainous terrain (before it can be fetched and set up).

From what I understand, NK also has a pretty good sized supply of chem-bio weapons. I think in case US-NK hostilities should occur that quite a few South Koreans and/or Japanese are going to have to be written off. I think Seoul, at least, is close enough for SCUDs or some other smaller missile.

And then there’s the agents they most certainly have in SK, and I would suspect in the US - they could wreak a lot of havoc. Moreso, if equipped with chem weapons or a small-size or suitcase-size nuke.
Of course, it wouldn’t be all that hard to get a nuke on a boat or ship and sail it into a harbor.
At any rate, all the i’s and t’s that need to be dotted and crossed boggles my mind.


22 posted on 10/12/2017 11:18:55 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: LouieFisk; Paul R.; Jet Jaguar; gaijin; TigerLikesRooster; NorthMountain

Here’s something else that most Americans and South Koreans are unaware of: the extents of suffering and determination of the U.S. Marines and Army soldiers who were at Chosin Reservoir. Also fascinating!

Chosin Reservoir - Epic of Endurance | KOREAN WAR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH-xJxBNuVM


23 posted on 10/12/2017 11:23:29 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: gaijin

and followed by https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yf8Db5cPVCI

gosh i love that old sci-fi flick. I still think its rates as #1


24 posted on 10/12/2017 11:27:56 PM PDT by prophetic (Trump is today's DANIEL. Shut the mouth of lions Lord, let his enemies be made the Cat Food instead.)
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To: familyop

The “Chosin Few” I believe is the handle.


25 posted on 10/12/2017 11:30:12 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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“gosh i love that old sci-fi flick.”

Sorry, but no. Now, THIS is an old sci-fi flick:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXgTFBIwDCc


26 posted on 10/12/2017 11:36:36 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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"I am concerned that some people conclude that he cannot even take such a risk because he wants to live. He may not be suicidal but extremely greedy and overzealous, which, in retrospect, can be viewed as reckless and suicidal later."

Yes! Here's one thing we might ask ourselves while trying to put ourselves in the shoes of Mr. Kim Jong Un. Is he more afraid of losing his life or of losing control of his people and his position as ruler over them? And what would happen to him and all of the other high ranking leaders around him, if the slave peasants of North Korea find out more clearly what life is like outside of North Korea?

As their ruler, he feels quite safe under any circumstances. Much support for his delusion of indestructibility is often ordered to appear in the form of enormous crowds of people cheering for him along with enormous displays of North Korean weapons. The women of the North Korean armed forces cry for him at the mere sight of him. At the same time, there are the perceptions of North Korean leaders of Americans too spoiled, soft, afraid and generally weak to get into any big fight.

Yet, within the early beginnings of a war, the starving, cold populace of North Korea would come running to our allied forces and humanitarian workers for help. Within a few weeks, they'll have received many messages in various forms to let them know that food, warmth and brotherly love await them.

As for what awaits north of the Amnok and Tumen rivers, we won't treat them so politely and mildly this time. They'll be quite exposed trying to cross the destroyed passes of that terrible terrain toward the south under the precision fire of newer, much more powerful weapons.


27 posted on 10/13/2017 12:01:48 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: familyop

Yup. My Dad was in Korea. Signal Corps, right on the front lines at times. Rough stuff.


28 posted on 10/13/2017 12:18:41 AM PDT by Paul R. (I don't want to be energy free, we want to be energy dominant in terms of the world. -D. Trump)
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To: LouieFisk

I met some of the Frozen Chosin on occasions during the 1990s and before. They were men. I also met some World War 2 infantry soldiers and tankers before they died. They were also courageous, sane, sober, happy, stable, solid men who loved family and moral tradition. There were also real Vietnam veterans with prior service in combat specialties who trained with me in the National Guard as motor pool mechanics and medics (rather old for our combat platoons but still fearless). They were great men of good humor and concrete stability.

The veterans of World War 2 and Korea were trained long before 1970, and I was trained after 1988. I was in the National Guard and never mobilized, but they honored me only for being willing to go through 13 weeks of initial training without any threat of being drafted. They were humble. They were a generous dose of fatherly strength. We were all smiles and talk. I miss them very much.

And although he died of natural causes here in the United States over ten years ago, my father has Korea on his military headstone.


29 posted on 10/13/2017 12:28:12 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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My Dad didn’t talk much about it except for how cold the weather was sometimes in training, heating one of the greasier canned rations on Jeep manifolds, once being present at a nuke test in the States, going hungry for three days once (bad NCO), starting smoking and playing poker for lack of anything else to do at times, and about how he bought a car and drove too fast to get home after being discharged.

He didn’t seem bothered about his time in the service at all, though he never advised me to join the service. He wore a flat top haircut most of his life. My Mom was against me joining.

The only things that I remember seeing from his service were a small binder of photos from his training in southern U.S. states, his good conduct medal, his tattered field jacket and his blue fourragere (cord that hangs over the shoulder on an infantry uniform).

My mother knew that he was honorably discharged just before she met him, but other than that, she didn’t know much, either. Same from relatives on his side of the family.

After being discharged, he worked as a mechanic (hot rodder from an early age), went to a night school for mechanics, married my Mom and started racing a super modified on several tracks in the Midwest. After he died in 2002, I found out that he was born a year younger than what I had been told. His burial was accompanied by an Army salute and a flag.

He was a good father, old fashioned, always much in favor of a strong defense and was really proud after my graduation at Ft. Leonard Wood. Might check with records to see what’s there.


30 posted on 10/13/2017 1:28:20 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: familyop

I can’t add anything to all your great observations on those amazing men (and women, too) who have served in some dire situations and accomplished so much.
I also agree on what a privilege it is to have been/is to meet such great people and great Americans. We owe them so much.


31 posted on 10/13/2017 10:42:45 AM PDT by LouieFisk
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