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US police killings undercounted by half, study using Guardian data finds
Guardian ^ | 10/11/17 | Jamiles Lartey

Posted on 10/12/2017 10:45:41 AM PDT by Maceman

Over half of all police killings in 2015 were wrongly classified as not having been the result of interactions with officers, a new Harvard study based on Guardian data has found.

The finding is just the latest to show government databases seriously undercounting the number of people killed by police.

“Right now the data quality is bad and unacceptable,” said lead researcher Justin Feldman. “To effectively address the problem of law enforcement-related deaths, the public needs better data about who is being killed, where, and under what circumstances.”

Young black men again faced highest rate of US police killings in 2016 The Counted project points to continuing racial disparities, with black males aged 15-34 nine times more likely than other Americans to be killed Read more Feldman used data from the Guardian’s 2015 investigation into police killings, The Counted, and compared it with data from the National Vital Statistics System (NVSS). That dataset, which is kept by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), was found to have misclassified 55.2% of all police killings, with the errors occurring disproportionately in low-income jurisdictions.

“As with any public health outcome or exposure, the only way to understand the magnitude of the problem, and whether it is getting better or worse, requires that data be uniformly, validly, and reliably obtained throughout the US,” said Nancy Krieger, professor of social epidemiology at Harvard’s Chan School of Public Health and senior author of the study. “Our results show our country is falling short of accurately monitoring deaths due to law enforcement and work is needed to remedy this problem.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: copsuckers; donutwatch
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The latest lefty talking point.
1 posted on 10/12/2017 10:45:41 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: Maceman

These stupid white libs fake their ow concern for black “victims” but they themselves wouldn’t get caught living in a mixed or black neighborhood.


2 posted on 10/12/2017 10:47:29 AM PDT by beergarden
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To: Maceman

Even at that, the Chicago count would still be police about 30, and the gangs about 750.

Pathetic!

I’m sticking with the 15.? count.


3 posted on 10/12/2017 10:49:22 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national punch-bowl.)
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To: Maceman

I neither believe nor disbelieve the data. The one thing I’m confident of is that most of the data we have been fed is either wrong or seriously manipulated to tell the story that the left wants us to hear.


4 posted on 10/12/2017 10:49:36 AM PDT by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: Maceman

I’m not clicking the guardian so what’s the jist? Who is getting killed and not being counted as killed?


5 posted on 10/12/2017 10:50:05 AM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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What are they trying to say - that a lot of folks killed by cops weren’t actually interacting with cops????


6 posted on 10/12/2017 10:51:18 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Maceman

Yawn !!!!!!!!!

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7 posted on 10/12/2017 10:52:23 AM PDT by Mears
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To: DoughtyOne

Another very important factor about crime data that most people don’t know:

When a (non-black) hispanic person commits a crime, they are counted as white. When a hispanic person is the victim of a crime, they are counted as hispanic. This tilts all the data so that it makes it look like whites are far more criminal than they actually are.

This is true for FBI data. I’m not sure about other places where data is gathered, but nothing surprises me any more.


8 posted on 10/12/2017 10:53:06 AM PDT by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: generally

Interesting point. Thanks. I’ll have to remember that.

Seems I remember hearing this before, but it’s an important fact to keep in mind.


9 posted on 10/12/2017 10:57:42 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national punch-bowl.)
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To: beergarden

Hi.

“These stupid white libs fake their ow concern for black “victims” but they themselves wouldn’t get caught living in a mixed or black neighborhood.”

True. To include Black NFL players.

5.56mm


10 posted on 10/12/2017 10:58:35 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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The solution is simple but these cretins refuse to use this unique (to them) strategy.
Do what the officer demands and don’t fight him. It’s that simple.
When he/she says ‘hands up’, put your hands up.
When he says ‘Keep your hands where I can see them,do it.
When he/she says ‘Don’t reach under the seat’ Don’t.

For some reason they feel compelled to be belligerent and show how tough they are.


11 posted on 10/12/2017 11:01:58 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: beergarden

You got that right. “Lead researcher” Justin Feldman wouldn’t be caught dead on the southside of Chicago. But there is always hope.


12 posted on 10/12/2017 11:05:31 AM PDT by henkster (The View: A psychiatric group therapy session where the shrink has stepped out of the room.)
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To: MileHi

The Guardian is a fake news site. Not worth a click.


13 posted on 10/12/2017 11:08:41 AM PDT by Autonomous User (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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a new Harvard study based on Guardian data has found.

And how do we know the Guardian data is correct?

Why it follows there narrative.

14 posted on 10/12/2017 11:18:04 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: Vinnie

Tell that to Jack Yantis.

State won’t charge deputies in shooting of rancher Jack Yantis
http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/state/idaho/article92573452.html


15 posted on 10/12/2017 11:18:14 AM PDT by Valpal1 (I am grown weary.)
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To: Maceman

I’d go to the Guardian website and comment (many of their articles allow for comments) but I was recently banned...permanently...for having taken issue with a piece that claimed that there are numerous “genders”.


16 posted on 10/12/2017 11:32:19 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (ObamaCare Works For Those Who Don't.)
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I had a dentist appointment this morning in Wellesley...the one where ILLary went to college.Those who know Greater Boston know Wellesley to be one of the richest,most exclusive,whitest and most "progressive" residential suburbs in the country.

On one of the lawns near the office I saw a big sign proclaiming support for Black Lies Matter.I wish I had stopped and taken a photo of it.

17 posted on 10/12/2017 11:39:14 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (ObamaCare Works For Those Who Don't.)
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To: Maceman

Fake news from the marxist press of London.


18 posted on 10/12/2017 11:41:15 AM PDT by Uncle Sam 911
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To: Valpal1
Tell that to Jack Yantis.
"..Investigators also found a .20-caliber round at the scene, and Yantis’ .204-caliber rifle had an empty shell casing in the chamber. An FBI ballistics expert who tested the .20-caliber round could not conclusively establish that the bullet came from Yantis’ rifle. Blood on the round was tested and found to be that of Yantis, the report said.."

Interesting story I remember from a while back. Funny thing tho'. The only .204 caliber cartridges I know of in current use, both SAAMI and wildcat, are considered very high velocity varmint cartridges. Designed for explosive impact on varmints with minimal recoil. A strange choice for putting down a bull. As a general rule ya wouldn't find much of a "round" left at the distances described no matter what it hit. Mebbe a jacket base. Just seems a bit strange. But then that whole thing smells.

19 posted on 10/12/2017 12:05:27 PM PDT by CopperTop (Outside the wire it's just us chickens. Dig?)
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To: Vinnie

“Do what the officer demands and don’t fight him.”

Fortunately the nurse in Salt Lake City did was what right and she did not do what Detective Jeff Payne wanted her to do.

Instead she protected a Rigby, Idaho police officer from being the victim of a warrantless search by a criminal with a gun.

Good for her.


20 posted on 10/12/2017 12:11:55 PM PDT by MeganC (Democrat by birth, Republican by default, Conservative by principle.)
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