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American Indians Need Help Not Indigenous People’s Day
Townhall.com ^ | October 8, 2017 | Bruce Bialosky

Posted on 10/08/2017 5:15:07 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: hal ogen; All
For lack of a better term, there are too "Lost Causes" in American history. One is venerated, the other despised.

The venerated practiced human sacrifice and slavery. The despised? None practiced human sacrifice and few owned slaves.

41 posted on 10/08/2017 6:37:30 AM PDT by j.argese (/s tags: If you have a mind unnecessary. If you're a cretin it really doesn't matter, does it?)
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To: hal ogen
You're absolutely right. Reservations were not the solution and remain the problem. They are US citizens. Nothing is keeping them on the Reservation except their own stubbornness.

My first client was a full blooded Indian. She lived in Upstate NY, owned a house and a small business.

42 posted on 10/08/2017 6:38:12 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Kaslin

https://www.culturalsurvival.org/news/united-states-impact-casinos-native-american-reservations


43 posted on 10/08/2017 6:40:32 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Kaslin

In another feel-good moment, some cities are renaming Columbus Day as Indigenous People’s Day.

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America has no indigenous people. They settled here first, but originated elsewhere.

The only place with indigenous people is Africa.


44 posted on 10/08/2017 6:43:37 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Kaslin

My guess is assimilation would be best to improve their lives. Treating them as something different is keeping them in their dire situation.


45 posted on 10/08/2017 6:46:59 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Kaslin

What would the USA look like had white man not have come? Would the indians have created an advanced society on their own?


46 posted on 10/08/2017 7:04:11 AM PDT by umgud
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To: umgud

I don’t believe so.


47 posted on 10/08/2017 7:13:37 AM PDT by Kaslin (Politicians are not born; they are excreted -Civilibus nati sunt; sunt excernitur. (Cicero))
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To: umgud
I think it was one of the Roosevelts who said "If it wasn't for the White Man, the tribes would have killed each other off."

And all this naming was done to promote the Indian Heritage. The present Indians will annihilate themselves in seeking their "separatist" status.

48 posted on 10/08/2017 7:22:29 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Kaslin

Why do we have a BIA in the first place?

Indians run massive farming operations here and there around the country, and resorts, and casinos. They’re not stupid, they’re very capable of doing their own thing. They don’t need the BIA to manage their interest, and they don’t need 200 year old treaties and such to hide behind.

If you get rid of the corrupt BIA then maybe the corrupt “Elders” of the tribe will be dealt with on their own. Let them figure it out themselves.


49 posted on 10/08/2017 8:26:15 AM PDT by MrKatykelly (Hello)
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To: PIF
When I was in college, the first time, I did some research on elderly Native Americans living in Dallas. One guy I interviewed was the head of the Native organization heading about 4,000 living around Dallas. He told me that he encouraged those who came to him for help to look to themselves first. He sounded like Jack Kemp. I was impressed.

When I finished my paper I mailed it to him as I had promised. He had been replaced with another guy who called me and asked me where I had gotten all my information. I told him I had interviewed the previous director and I had found all the other info in a few libraries. The guy was not happy that I had scrounged up this info that stressed how important it was for people to rely on themselves and not the government for everything.

It was like stepping in a fire ant's nest by mistake.

50 posted on 10/08/2017 8:28:30 AM PDT by Slyfox (Are you tired of winning yet?)
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To: Kaslin
Austin city council has officially dropped 'Columbus Day' & replaced it with 'Indigenous Peoples Day.'

Charles Maund Toyota has now come up with their ad:

www.CharlesMaundToyota.com

51 posted on 10/08/2017 8:55:42 AM PDT by texanyankee
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To: Kaslin

American Indians are desperate for real help,...

With untold millions and millions flowing into Indian casinos every day tax free, they need govt help like an Eskimo needs snow!


52 posted on 10/08/2017 8:57:17 AM PDT by GoldenPup
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To: Kaslin
Tomorrow I'm going to help the Indians! I'm going to the casino here in Tampa!! 😀
53 posted on 10/08/2017 10:41:34 AM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is DEPLORABLE :-))
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To: Kaslin

NA not indiginous. That’s why the name is bogus and the. Also, look what Europeans returned this into. They had superior weaponry, technology, laws, and cultures. Get over it. If you look at the slams on columbus it is coming from mexicans and he had nothing to do with mexico.


54 posted on 10/08/2017 10:44:45 AM PDT by morphing libertarian (Imprison Obama, Clintons, Holder, lynch now.)
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To: GoldenPup

Indians can go to school and get jobs just like anyone else. They live the life they choose. this is the same as people who wallow in the slave meme because their great-great-was a slave.


55 posted on 10/08/2017 10:47:22 AM PDT by morphing libertarian (Imprison Obama, Clintons, Holder, lynch now.)
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To: Kaslin

While the federal government has made Native Americans virtual plantations slaves living off federal handouts, some tribes have done far better than others. I live only a few miles from a small reservation that sports a casino complex that rivals any in Vegas and provides tribe members not only huge payouts, but the very best public safety and recreation facilities which they gladly share with the local non Indian community. I work out at a tribal health and fitness center and buy my gas at a tribal store at considerable savings. Tribe members have huge luxury homes supporting local construction businesses. On the other hand in my home state of South Dakota the Pine Ridge Reservation has the most poverty of any county in the entire country. The Indian Health Services offers almost third world level medical care and is the worst example of any government run health system you can imagine. Indians will shun free medical care at IHS hospitals and on reservations the word is don’t get sick at the end of the month as the IHS has squandered their budget and can’t even provide aspirin


56 posted on 10/08/2017 1:30:06 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money." Margaret Thatcherhttp://www.stone)
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To: morphing libertarian

Very True. Agree!


57 posted on 10/08/2017 1:32:06 PM PDT by GoldenPup
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To: Republicanprofessor

I have lived most of my life in the south west; you always knew when you entered Reservation lands, the pavement on the roads (where there was pavement) was really crap, and the piles of litter and trash along the roads would rival any big city dump.
You generally get what you are willing to put up with.


58 posted on 10/08/2017 1:42:55 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: Kaslin; All
Christopher Columbus as an evil person instead of the person celebrated as the first to traverse the Atlantic Ocean, discovering there were two major continents not previously known to the world as it existed in 1492.

I wonder if we'll ever stop believing the totally false "FAKE" story?

First off, Eric The Red and his son, Leif, and about 30,000 Vikings lived in Greenland a freaking thousand years before Columbus 'sailed the Ocean Blue. "

Eric and other sailed and explored up and down the coasts, had 'winter harbors' in places like Cape Cod - explored the Hudson for a place but after a bitter winter there, gave that up. ... The Eastern seaboard was explored ...

Then a HUNDRED years before 1492, Henry Sinclair, Earl of Orkney, the second most powerful man in Scotland, next to the King - and wealthier than the king, sailed his ships with about 750 Knights Templar and families to Nova Scotia - where he ALREADY owned land - to escape the encroaching attacks from England, to get the ancient treasures and themselves out of reach. They also knew about Greenland and the earlier Viking's establishment.

Nova Scotia celebrates The Sinclair landing.

"Monument to the alleged landing site of the Sinclair Expedition, Guysborough, Nova Scotia"

Columbus married into a famous map-maker family. He had the map that showed the eastern seaboards of N. and S. America. His theory, the he sold to Queen Isabella and King Ferdinand was that he could find a safer and shorter route to India and the riches of the spice trade by sailing BETWEEN the two continents. He never set out to discover, nor claimed to, 'discover' a new land. However, there were no known explorations or maps showing the CENTRAL America was in the way.

He hit the Islands and at first,thought he had reached the back end of India-and named the natives"Indios" (Indians).

He did realize his mistake, but by then had discovered the natives and gold and gold and silver - and the genocide began...killing millions and wiping out Taino Tribe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o51LPfrjsqQ&index=3&list=PLWtYzeXtcs1hLrZLL1yTlDFy_hV2gWDDT

Following is 3rd voyage, he was, on orders of the Queen, hauled back to Spain in chains...not for what he did, but because he was planning on setting himself as the ruler of the Islands.

"Columbus Day" was not a holiday for hundreds of years after. And the FAKE NEWS still reigns. Rather like most of our school kids are still taught - and depictions continue to show. still 400 years later - that the Pilgrims dressed in black and white. FAKE NEWS.

The scary part is that we are just as gullible today - even some Freepers - in believing FAKE NEWS.

Does no one ever research anything?

Live link next post - to make it easy...

59 posted on 10/08/2017 1:43:34 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ( Christian is as Christian does mt-h)
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to go with post #59

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o51LPfrjsqQ&index=3&list=PLWtYzeXtcs1hLrZLL1yTlDFy_hV2gWDDT


60 posted on 10/08/2017 1:44:57 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ( Christian is as Christian does mt-h)
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