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ISIS: Las Vegas Shooter Stephen Paddock Became Muslim Six Months Before Massacre
Newsweek via Yahoo! ^ | October 5, 2017 | Tom O’Connor

Posted on 10/07/2017 7:30:33 AM PDT by TaxPayer2000

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To: jjotto
There are bloggers knowingly misleading people.

Usually those are from the "other side". When they are(or appear to be) on our side, I get twice as pi$$ed.

61 posted on 10/07/2017 11:32:05 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: mazda77

Well I am glad at least a few people would never doubt the official narrative.

Even after:

Former CIA Director, William Colby quoted “ The CIA owns anyone of significance in the major media”.

- Conspiracy theory is a term that was “weaponized” by the CIA, to shame the public into only following the official narrative. CIA Document 1035-960 -So keep drinking the kool aid and make fun of anyone who thinks outside the box and questions.

- Golf of Tonkin
- Fast and Furious
- Operation PBSUCCESS
- Operation Mongoose
- CIA-Produced Pornography
- Pakistani Fake Vaccine Drive / DNA Collecting
- Operation Mockingbird
- Operation Chaos
- Phoenix program
- OPeration Ajx
- The Mujahideen
- MK Ultra

And that’s just a short list of gov. docs made public.

Not to mention:
- No weapons of mass destruction in Iraq....ya Saddam had a lot to do with 911.
- 17 years,, countless deaths, and trillions of dollars in the war on terror. We are so much safer and have so many more rights.

Have you not read 1984 : Endless wars make those in power a lot of money, keep the public tribal and in line.

Sorry but you have to be a lazy sheep if you do not read history and question the MSM narrative.

Over and over we find that we are being lied to, defense contractors making trillions, loss of liberties rapidly being taken.

We literally say ISIS is after us, yet bomb them into oblivion, forcing them to relocate into our neighborhoods. Great strategy.

Don’t question anything. Heck don’t read anything.

Sit in front o your tv, be tod hat to think, and give up some more rights. Its entertaining (and lazy).


62 posted on 10/07/2017 12:49:46 PM PDT by GeoPie
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To: mazda77

Well I am glad at least a few people would never doubt the official narrative.

Even after:

Former CIA Director, William Colby quoted “ The CIA owns anyone of significance in the major media”.

- Conspiracy theory is a term that was “weaponized” by the CIA, to shame the public into only following the official narrative. CIA Document 1035-960 -So keep drinking the kool aid and make fun of anyone who thinks outside the box and questions.

- Golf of Tonkin
- Fast and Furious
- Operation PBSUCCESS
- Operation Mongoose
- CIA-Produced Pornography
- Pakistani Fake Vaccine Drive / DNA Collecting
- Operation Mockingbird
- Operation Chaos
- Phoenix program
- OPeration Ajx
- The Mujahideen
- MK Ultra

And that’s just a short list of gov. docs made public.

Not to mention:
- No weapons of mass destruction in Iraq....ya Saddam had a lot to do with 911.
- 17 years,, countless deaths, and trillions of dollars in the war on terror. We are so much safer and have so many more rights.

Have you not read 1984 : Endless wars make those in power a lot of money, keep the public tribal and in line.

Sorry but you have to be a lazy sheep if you do not read history and question the MSM narrative.

Over and over we find that we are being lied to, defense contractors making trillions, loss of liberties rapidly being taken.

We literally say ISIS is after us, yet bomb them into oblivion, forcing them to relocate into our neighborhoods. Great strategy.

Don’t question anything. Heck don’t read anything.

Sit in front o your tv, be tod hat to think, and give up some more rights. Its entertaining (and lazy).


63 posted on 10/07/2017 12:50:15 PM PDT by GeoPie
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AxW9MQ2qPI


64 posted on 10/07/2017 12:51:54 PM PDT by mazda77
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To: GeoPie

Geez, I had no idea your sleuth talents solved all of those. Way to go man, I’m impressed./s

My ire is the same claims over and over again like the shooter on the 4th floor. All I did was challenge that claim by requesting they show us the hole in the fixed windows. Then came the one that the guard who was shot was in on it.

Being that you are so knowledgeable about investigations, then you also know the more that is leaked about it the less the chances are of anyone else involved will make a mistake out of complacency. Counter intelligence is an art in itself and is always full of shaded or lies to serve as the truth to hide that which is behind that which is not for a very specific reason.

Even with the massive social media footprint of the San Bernadino terrorists, it took 9 days for the police to offer up their initial official report. I say hats off to the Metro police for keeping us abreast of all they can tell us and today is the 6th day.

But as we all know, all cops are blood lusting scumbags that cannot be trusted./s I’m sure that you would just love having half the world looking over your shoulder nit picking every little thing you did.


65 posted on 10/07/2017 1:13:19 PM PDT by mazda77
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To: mazda77

Thanks for the insult. I did not claim to have solved anything. I did point out the FBI/CIA are known to be involved in some pretty evil crap.

Last time I checked, they seem to have no problem protecting criminals like Hillary. Not to mention selling guns to the cartel.

Does that mean the FBI and CIA are evil? Not necessarily. But there are factions that do carry out some evil crap that we should not forget and keep in mind when things go south.

But I digress...

I have ZERO problem with questioning ANYTHING (i.e. 4th floor shooter).

I do get frustrated with people like you that think there are only “acceptable” questions and anwsers (was it ISIS) to ask and everything else is for nut jobs (i.e. 4th floor shooter). Is that on the MSM safe list?

Can you say baa?

So, you can claim it must be ISIS, but if anyone else claims it might be something else, well they are idiots for jumping the gun. Yet, you can jump the gun with your official narrative.

That’s a bit of a contradiction. Can you at least see that? Its ok to notice it and admit it.

FYI: I agree, it is way to soon to “decide” what happened or why. Follow that advice, its good.

Frankly speaking, we will probably not know in our lifetime what really happened in Vegas.

That said, we should ask ourselves: “Who benefits from this shooting”?

What happens with our rights? Who profits from it?

Whenever you have trillions of dollars being spent on a “war on terror” ...that is the perfect war...it has no end...there is a pretty big incentive to keep it going.

Who is going to benefit from the Vegas shooting? ISIS? Maybe, but we should watch and see who else profits.

By the way, who is ISIS? How did they get funded and armed and organized so quickly? Seriously, oops. Another dumb question. They must have their own factories. And found a bunch of cash in their villages. Someone has to arm and fund them.

Please tell me who it is?

Another dumb question. Why is it every time we chase ISIS, we end up flooding Europe with Islamic refugee’s?

So much for “killing them there...so they don’t come here”.

Ever notice what is sold to us usually gives the opposite result? Think Patriot act. Wait, I am dumb for saying such things.

Things on the MSM don’t’t add up, but many things happen that don’t make sense.

I’ll grab my tin foil and you can get back to the herd:) baa


66 posted on 10/07/2017 2:23:03 PM PDT by GeoPie
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To: TaxPayer2000

I don’t know what bothers me more, that Isis is trying to co-op this butchery,

Or the last three street-interviews of young people who think ‘it was beautiful’ and then quickly couch their statements in a quick followup on how everybody was soooo nice after the shooting.

What the hell is wrong with these people? It was not beautiful or amazing or incredible or a moment of brotherly love. It was murder.


68 posted on 10/07/2017 3:20:42 PM PDT by blueplum ( "...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: mazda77

Yes, I’m sure the FBI is doing one heck of a job, Brownie:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3592912/posts


69 posted on 10/07/2017 3:22:32 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies ('45 will be the best ever)
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To: mazda77

What does that link have to do with the Vegas shooting?


70 posted on 10/07/2017 3:32:49 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Say what you will, that is your prerogative but I won’t get on that hayride with you until the field office there gives me verifiable reason to do so. Being the DC headquarters is a total mess with their Deep State problems, maybe the field office head who calls Vegas his home is being able to operate as we would expect them to.

NEWS FLASH!

The mystery woman has now officially been identified as a hooker! Geez, who would have thunk it?

So now that we know that the shooter was also a cad, a lefty, crazy and whatever derogatory moniker we can think of. His character is now set to consider before the massacre.

I will pose the possibility the mystery charger was not for a cell phone but to charge the wireless cameras.


71 posted on 10/07/2017 3:48:08 PM PDT by mazda77
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To: snarkytart

Chasing tails. The only thing you get is dizzy.


72 posted on 10/07/2017 3:49:35 PM PDT by mazda77
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To: TruBluKentuckian

You’re funny. Are we pulling the idea ISIS could have done this out of our ass? They claimed responsibility IMMEDIATELY afterward,and haven’t stopped claiming responsibility and it’s been reported in major news outlets. Even the NYT lib writer said don’t dismiss their claim.

So why are we off the rails when this has been in the news?

Do tell, please. What do you have in your hands that show otherwise? As if ISIS is such a wild tinfoil hat theory. Did they not just blow up and shoot up the Grande concert? Did three dudes get arrested in NYC for plotting attacks on concerts and other soft targets?!!

“We seriously need a car bomb at times square …. look at those crowds of people!” El-Bahnasawy said in one message to the undercover agent, according to court papers. He also expressed a desire to “shoot up concerts cause they kill a lot of people.”

yea it’s so crazy to speculate about ISIS.

If it’s not them so be it. Until we’re shown other facts people are going to speculate. Snide comments about people being off the rails aka crazy just because you don’t agree with them even though you have zero evidence to contradict their opinion on Paddock’s motive. If you do please share.

ISIS is just as possible as anything else right now.

PS.

Officials will never admit to it being ISIS anyway, because they never do. Even after Grande’s concert in Manchester the official report states:

“After initial suspicions of a terrorist network, police later said they believed the bomber, Salman Ramadan Abedi, had largely acted alone but that others had been aware of his plans.”

Though ISIS claimed responsibility immediately before it was known who the bomber was

http://time.com/4790201/isis-manchester-concert-terrorist-attack/

Officials still declared him as attacking alone.


73 posted on 10/07/2017 3:58:47 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: mazda77

I hope you’re correct, but I would not wager on learning the truth from them.


74 posted on 10/07/2017 4:00:43 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies ('45 will be the best ever)
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To: mazda77

Do you think Islam is now squashed after a thousand years of blood lust and murder? Is that what that link is supposed to mean that they’re under control now?

okay.


75 posted on 10/07/2017 4:01:47 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: snarkytart

No, I am saying that ISIS is about done. Their propagandist machine is on a laptop somewhere. There is more fun to come after Trump decertifies the Iran deal.


76 posted on 10/07/2017 4:18:17 PM PDT by mazda77
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To: mazda77

I hope they are done but they’re just a name the ideology has been around for centuries and pretty much always as violent.

FROM THE ARTICLE I POSTED :

attackers may not necessarily distinguish between ISIS, al-Qaeda, and other jihadist groups, instead drawing inspiration from multiple streams of extremist rhetoric.

“We’re not dealing with organizations anymore. We’re dealing with a message. We’re dealing with an ideology. We’re dealing with a narrative, and that narrative can be cross-organizational,” he says in a phone interview.


77 posted on 10/07/2017 4:23:16 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: snarkytart

First you must beat them on the battlefield and it appears their whole base is nothing of an ideology instead a life support system for criminals.

http://metro.co.uk/2017/10/07/isis-fighters-have-no-food-or-money-as-hundreds-surrender-in-iraq-6984090/


78 posted on 10/07/2017 4:30:11 PM PDT by mazda77
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To: JimRed

>>It was Jihad, pure and simple. Mosques should be burning by now.<<

They should have been destroyed as they were being built.


79 posted on 10/07/2017 8:34:38 PM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat
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To: snarkytart

I’ve never said ISIS isn’t involved. We don’t know yet. I actually lean that way myself, but there’s not enough evidence yet.

You see, I don’t jump to conclusions on unproven evidence. What has been pulling the snark out of me is people who have completely set their mind on what they want the outcome to be without any real evidence to back it. They have pet theories and will reject anything that would throw doubt on such theory.

The day after the shooting the big thing was the supposed 2nd shooter on the 4th floor. I looked at the video all said proved it, and instantly saw it was a strobe light. I had previously listened to the police scanner recording and specifically remembered an officer confirming the strobe light. I then found videos showing the strobe light flashing before the shooting started and 7 hours after the shooting. I posted these videos and was instantly labeled a government shill or Media Matters troll.

I’m still seeing people, some that were in the thread where I debunked the theory, saying it was a 2nd shooter. Those are the ones that get me worked up, they have their agenda and won’t stop pushing it, despite the evidence.

We don’t know exactly what happened yet, and not because of any cover-up. Investigations take time, police procedures have to be followed even with the main suspect dead. In time we will know.

The only things I think we honestly know at this point is his identity and that he was the only shooter. Beyond that there’s still too many questions. Anything else is just assumption, and many are pushing theories as fact that have no basis in truth.


80 posted on 10/07/2017 8:55:22 PM PDT by TruBluKentuckian
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