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California becomes 'sanctuary state' as Gov. Brown defies Trump administration
Fox News ^ | 10/6/2017 | Not Specified

Posted on 10/06/2017 8:16:08 AM PDT by EagleUSA

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To: yoe

On second thought, this could be the silver lining. All the illegals might run for the Kalifornican boarder. They’d bankrupt the state and raise state taxes so much so that maybe, just maybe the liberals will wake up and smell the coffee. Then it’ll be easier for ICE to round them up for deportation, if they don’t deport themselves first.


21 posted on 10/06/2017 8:34:21 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: ExTexasRedhead

The CA RATs are just throwing a series of temper tantrums that don’t really mean anything. Federal Immigration Law “trumps” and state legislation. I’d really like to see a confrontation with Federal Immigration Officers by a flock of LEOs from CA, if CA could actually find any cops willing to make the confrontation. Jerry The Fairy is all horn and no driveshaft.


22 posted on 10/06/2017 8:35:34 AM PDT by vette6387 (LOCK HER UP! COMEY TOO.)
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To: EagleUSA
"... this bill strikes a balance that will protect public safety,

Tell that to Kate Steinle.

23 posted on 10/06/2017 8:37:42 AM PDT by Yogafist
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To: NorthMountain

If people don’t have to state their nationality to any government official in CA, I guess that means they all can now vote.


24 posted on 10/06/2017 8:38:19 AM PDT by sanjuanbob
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To: SpaceBar

All Federal funding to both the State of California and residents of the State of California should be stopped. . .


25 posted on 10/06/2017 8:39:54 AM PDT by Salgak (You're in Strange Hands with Tom Stranger. . . .)
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To: jalisco555

Exactly.

What about abortion “law”. What if some state decides that they will not recognize Roe V. Wade?
What if some state decides that some arcane environmental law damages business, so they void said law?

And on and on.


26 posted on 10/06/2017 8:40:42 AM PDT by Arthurive
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To: EagleUSA
“These are uncertain times for undocumented Criminal Alien Californians and their families, and this bill strikes a balance that will protect public safety, while bringing a measure of comfort to those families who are now living in fear everyday,” Brown said.

Pardon my modification on the Gov's statement. They broke into our country and became criminals as a result. They should be deported at once.

27 posted on 10/06/2017 8:40:58 AM PDT by upchuck (Circumvent can't.)
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To: dforest; ExTexasRedhead

You might want to look at this graphic before you open your yap!

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1236204


28 posted on 10/06/2017 8:41:16 AM PDT by vette6387 (LOCK HER UP! COMEY TOO.)
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To: EagleUSA

California is soooo yesterday.


29 posted on 10/06/2017 8:42:38 AM PDT by Chgogal (Sessions recused himself for shaking an Ambassador's hand. Shameful!)
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To: BenLurkin

Indeed just another California feel good moment they can’t enforce the crazy law.


30 posted on 10/06/2017 8:47:03 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacted the most.)
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To: EagleUSA

I predict that this LIEberal Democrat insanity will not end well - for Kali-Fornia, Brown, illegals, and the USA.


31 posted on 10/06/2017 8:52:26 AM PDT by Taxman (Replace the income tax with the FAIRtax and abolish the IRS!)
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To: EagleUSA

good news Californians= you no longer have to pay taxes- infact, rob a few banks- build your own bank accounts- the state won’t arrest you


32 posted on 10/06/2017 8:55:20 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: EagleUSA

The Nullifiers nonsense already happened a war was fought over it.. I know most people don’t know this since they have dumbed down the civil war to just be about slavery.. but this is just more of the same stupidity.

With this action California has more in common with South Carolina in the 1850s... that’s really “progressive”.


33 posted on 10/06/2017 8:57:31 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: EagleUSA

...and now more news from the new Fort Sumter aka Sacramento (Wacko City).

Sounds like a revolt.


34 posted on 10/06/2017 9:02:41 AM PDT by ptsal ( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
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To: EagleUSA

“”while bringing a measure of comfort to those families who are now living in fear everyday,” Brown said.””

But no concerns about the legal residents/citizens who are fearful for themselves and their families amid the flood of illegals invading the cities. No doubt, there will be more after 1/1/18. Brown can position vehicles down at the border with TJ to facilitate their entry into the country - no more hiking across the desert....We not only need a fence built on the border but we need a fence built around California. He’ll have to dump the problems supporting them somewhere and let’s make sure it’s not going to be other states.


35 posted on 10/06/2017 9:04:17 AM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: BenLurkin

“Brown defies the law.’

Where will he get the $$$$ to do that?


36 posted on 10/06/2017 9:04:36 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Nearly all men can stand adversity...to test a man's character, give him power." A. Lincoln)
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To: EagleUSA

Are there still US defense facilities there?

THEY should re locate


37 posted on 10/06/2017 9:08:18 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Nearly all men can stand adversity...to test a man's character, give him power." A. Lincoln)
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To: EagleUSA
Clearly unconstitutional.

Article VI Section 2:

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

This bill is de facto secession, declaring the "Laws of the United States" null and void in California.

Someone needs to throw the Arizona immigration ruling at California. They're from the same circuit! Simply sue California based on the Ninth Circuit's ruling and SCOTUS concurrence on Arizona's SB 1070.

I think the 9th circuit is boxed in here.

They overturned Arizona's SB 1070, declaring federal immigration law as supreme (SCOTUS concurred).

If the 9th sides with California, they are effectively overturning their decision on SB 1070 from seven years ago (and going against a SCOTUS concurrence). If the 9th negates their Arizona SB 1070 ruling, wouldn't that free up Arizona to begin enforcing that law again?

Would the 9th Circuit really try to rule one way in Arizona and the opposite way in California, just to serve the liberal agenda?

If SCOTUS upholds SB 1070 and says California cannot make immigration law, then California's so-called "sanctuary state" disappears.

If SCOTUS overturns their SB 1070 ruling and says that California can make its own immigration law, then that should free up Arizona to re-implement SB 1070 and make their own immigration law, too.

Then we'd see California nullify immigration law, while Arizona enforces immigration law.

-PJ

38 posted on 10/06/2017 9:18:52 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: Arthurive
What about

What about Sessions just enforcing existing law?

Shamelessly Stolen from Freeper eyeamok.

Federal Immigration and Nationality Act
Section 8 USC 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv)(b)(iii)

“Any person who . . . encourages or induces an alien to . . . reside . . . knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such . . . residence is . . . in violation of law, shall be punished as provided . . . for each alien in respect to whom such a violation occurs . . . fined under title 18 . . . imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both.”

Section 274 felonies under the federal Immigration and Nationality Act, INA 274A(a)(1)(A):

A person (including a group of persons, business, organization, or local government) commits a federal felony when she or he:

• assists an alien s/he should reasonably know is illegally in the U.S. or who lacks employment authorization, by transporting, sheltering, or assisting him or her to obtain employment, or

• encourages that alien to remain in the U.S. by referring him or her to an employer or by acting as employer or agent for an employer in any way, or

•knowingly assists illegal aliens due to personal convictions.

Penalties upon conviction include criminal fines, imprisonment, and forfeiture of vehicles and real property used to commit the crime. Anyone employing or contracting with an illegal alien without verifying his or her work authorization status is guilty of a misdemeanor. Aliens and employers violating immigration laws are subject to arrest, detention, and seizure of their vehicles or property. In addition, individuals or entities who engage in racketeering enterprises that commit (or conspire to commit) immigration-related felonies are subject to private civil suits for treble damages and injunctive relief.

Recruitment and Employment of Illegal Aliens

It is unlawful to hire an alien, to recruit an alien, or to refer an alien for a fee, knowing the alien is unauthorized to work in the United States. It is equally unlawful to continue to employ an alien knowing that the alien is unauthorized to work. Employers may give preference in recruitment and hiring to a U.S. citizen over an alien with work authorization only where the U.S. citizen is equally or better qualified. It is unlawful to hire an individual for employment in the United States without complying with employment eligibility verification requirements. Requirements include examination of identity documents and completion of Form I-9 for every employee hired. Employers must retain all I-9s, and, with three days’ advance notice, the forms must be made available for inspection. Employment includes any service or labor performed for any type of remuneration within the United States, with the exception of sporadic domestic service by an individual in a private home. Day laborers or other casual workers engaged in any compensated activity (with the above exception) are employees for purposes of immigration law. An employer includes an agent or anyone acting directly or indirectly in the interest of the employer. For purposes of verfication of authorization to work, employer also means an independent contractor, or a contractor other than the person using the alien labor. The use of temporary or short-term contracts cannot be used to circumvent the employment authorization verification requirements. If employment is to be for less than the usual three days allowed for completing the I-9 Form requirement, the form must be completed immediately at the time of hire.

An employer has constructive knowledge that an employee is an illegal unauthorized worker if a reasonable person would infer it from the facts. Constructive knowledge constituting a violation of federal law has been found where (1) the I-9 employment eligibility form has not been properly completed, including supporting documentation, (2) the employer has learned from other individuals, media reports, or any source of information available to the employer that the alien is unauthorized to work, or (3) the employer acts with reckless disregard for the legal consequences of permitting a third party to provide or introduce an illegal alien into the employer’s work force. Knowledge cannot be inferred solely on the basis of an individual’s accent or foreign appearance.

Actual specific knowledge is not required. For example, a newspaper article stating that ballrooms depend on an illegal alien work force of dance hostesses was held by the courts to be a reasonable ground for suspicion that unlawful conduct had occurred.

IT IS ILLEGAL FOR NONPROFIT OR RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS to knowingly assist an employer to violate employment sanctions, REGARDLESS OF CLAIMS THAT THEIR CONVICTIONS REQUIRE THEM TO ASSIST ALIENS. Harboring or aiding illegal aliens is not protected by the First Amendment. It is a felony to establish a commercial enterprise for the purpose of evading any provision of federal immigration law. Violators may be fined or imprisoned for up to five years.

Encouraging and Harboring Illegal Aliens

It is a violation of law for any person to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection in any place, including any building or means of transportation, any alien who is in the United States in violation of law. HARBORING MEANS ANY CONDUCT THAT TENDS TO SUBSTANTIALLY FACILITATE AN ALIEN TO REMAIN IN THE U.S. ILLEGALLY. The sheltering need not be clandestine, and harboring covers aliens arrested outdoors, as well as in a building. This provision includes harboring an alien who entered the U.S. legally but has since lost his legal status.

An employer can be convicted of the felony of harboring illegal aliens who are his employees if he takes actions in reckless disregard of their illegal status, such as ordering them to obtain false documents, altering records, obstructing INS inspections, or taking other actions that facilitate the alien’s illegal employment. Any person who within any 12-month period hires ten or more individuals with actual knowledge that they are illegal aliens or unauthorized workers is guilty of felony harboring. It is also a felony to encourage or induce an alien to come to or reside in the U.S. knowing or recklessly disregarding the fact that the alien’s entry or residence is in violation of the law. This crime applies to any person, rather than just employers of illegal aliens. Courts have ruled that “encouraging” includes counseling illegal aliens to continue working in the U.S. or assisting them to complete applications with false statements or obvious errors. The fact that the alien is a refugee fleeing persecution is not a defense to this felony, since U.S. law and the UN Protocol on Refugees both require that a refugee must report to immigration authorities without delay upon entry to the U.S.

The penalty for felony harboring is a fine and imprisonment for up to five years. The penalty for felony alien smuggling is a fine and up to ten years’ imprisonment. Where the crime causes serious bodily injury or places the life of any person in jeopardy, the penalty is a fine and up to twenty years’ imprisonment. If the criminal smuggling or harboring results in the death of any person, the penalty can include life imprisonment. Convictions for aiding, abetting, or conspiracy to commit alien smuggling or harboring, carry the same penalties. Courts can impose consecutive prison sentences for each alien smuggled or harbored. A court may order a convicted smuggler to pay restitution if the alien smuggled qualifies as a victim under the Victim and Witness Protection Act. Conspiracy to commit crimes of sheltering, harboring, or employing illegal aliens is a separate federal offense punishable by a fine of up to $10,000 or five years’ imprisonment.

Enforcement

A person or entity having knowledge of a violation or potential violation of employer sanctions provisions may submit a signed written complaint to the INS office with jurisdiction over the business or residence of the potential violator, whether an employer, employee, or agent. The complaint must include the names and addresses of both the complainant and the violator, and detailed factual allegations, including date, time, and place of the potential violation, and the specific conduct alleged to be a violation of employer sanctions. By regulation, the INS will only investigate third-party complaints that have a reasonable probability of validity. Designated INS officers and employees, and all other officers whose duty it is to enforce criminal laws, may make an arrest for violation of smuggling or harboring illegal aliens.

State and local law enforcement officials have the general power to investigate and arrest violators of federal immigration statutes without prior INS knowledge or approval, as long as they are authorized to do so by state law. There is no extant federal limitation on this authority. The 1996 immigration control legislation passed by Congress was intended to encourage states and local agencies to participate in the process of enforcing federal immigration laws. Immigration officers and local law enforcement officers may detain an individual for a brief warrantless interrogation where circumstances create a reasonable suspicion that the individual is illegally present in the U.S. Specific facts constituting a reasonable suspicion include evasive, nervous, or erratic behavior; dress or speech indicating foreign citizenship; and presence in an area known to contain a concentration of illegal aliens. Hispanic appearance alone is not sufficient. Immigration officers and police must have a valid warrant or valid employer’s consent to enter workplaces or residences. Any vehicle used to transport or harbor illegal aliens, or used as a substantial part of an activity that encourages illegal aliens to come to or reside in the U.S. may be seized by an immigration officer and is subject to forfeiture. The forfeiture power covers any conveyances used within the U.S.

RICO — Citizen Recourse

Private persons and entities may initiate civil suits to obtain injunctions and treble damages against enterprises that conspire to or actually violate federal alien smuggling, harboring, or document fraud statutes, under the Racketeer-Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO). The pattern of racketeering activity is defined as commission of two or more of the listed crimes. A RICO enterprise can be any individual legal entity, or a group of individuals who are not a legal entity but are associated in fact, AND CAN INCLUDE NONPROFIT ASSOCIATIONS.

Tax Crimes

Employers who aid or abet the preparation of false tax returns by failing to pay income or Social Security taxes for illegal alien employees, or who knowingly make payments using false names or Social Security numbers, are subject to IRS criminal and civil sanctions. U.S. nationals who have suffered intentional discrimination because of citizenship or national origin by an employer with more than three employees may file a complaint within 180 days of the discriminatory act with the Special Counsel for Immigration-Related Unfair Employment Practices, U.S. Department of Justice. In additon to the federal statutes summarized, state laws and local ordinances controlling fair labor practices, workers compensation, zoning, safe housing and rental property, nuisance, licensing, street vending, and solicitations by contractors may also apply to activities that involve illegal aliens.

22 posted on 1/26/2017, 6:39:44 AM by eyeamok (destruction of government


39 posted on 10/06/2017 9:19:08 AM PDT by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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To: SpaceBar

No, the assholes in charge have declared themselves lawless. Anyone that believes the majority of Californians would vote to become a sanctuary state has been hiitin’ the hard cider to much. Are you in favor of isolating and building walls around parts of Texas, Oregon, Washington, Missouri and who knows how many other states? Comments made out of pure emotion only show pure ignorance. Or to put it another way, knee jerk much?


40 posted on 10/06/2017 9:49:56 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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