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We need more political parties to spur action
Post Independent/Citizen Telegram (Colorado) ^ | September 27, 2017 | Roland McLean

Posted on 09/30/2017 10:51:50 AM PDT by TBP

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To: Nifster
Look at the nations with multiple parties

Tell me how that is better

I don't know if it makes the world or things in those countries any better, but all the constant bellyaching about how neither party represents people takes its toll after a while.

By this point, I'm tempted to say, form your own party that represents exactly what you believe, and let everybody else do the same, and then we'll see where we are.

Where we end up probably won't be that different from where we are now, but people might accept that what we get represents what the country thinks, rather than something that's been forced upon us.

Of course it's not going to happen because winner-take-all single representative per district voting favors the two party system.

21 posted on 09/30/2017 12:58:20 PM PDT by x
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To: TBP

Increase the number of house members 5 fold and it will happen. Having 435 makes it too easy for them to collude and gives the ones we have too much power.

Add term limits and swamp will be permanently drained.


22 posted on 09/30/2017 1:17:42 PM PDT by chickenlips
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To: TBP

Runoff elections at every level will solve most of our political problems. Unfortunately each state has the right to election law.


23 posted on 09/30/2017 1:24:30 PM PDT by bankwalker (Immigration without assimilation is an invasion.)
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To: chickenlips

Term limits for elective office
and loser-pays for litigation.

Things that need doingl


24 posted on 09/30/2017 1:28:21 PM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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To: bankwalker

And they rig the laws in favor of the Demopublican duopoly.


25 posted on 09/30/2017 1:46:23 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Only their self-aggrandizement matters.)
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To: chickenlips

They claim that there isn’t room in the Chamber for more representatives.

Dumbest reason I’ve ever heard.

If and when we get our Article V convention, we should send out an amendment limiting the number of constituents a House member can represent. Right now, it’s getting close to a million average. That’s not the local representation that the Founders intended.


26 posted on 09/30/2017 1:52:48 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Only their self-aggrandizement matters.)
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To: TBP

Runoff elections would fix that.


27 posted on 09/30/2017 1:54:26 PM PDT by bankwalker (Immigration without assimilation is an invasion.)
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To: TBP

No, we don’t.

All splinter groups can be accommodated within the two parties.


28 posted on 09/30/2017 2:45:27 PM PDT by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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The Republican Party has shown no inclination to accommodate the Trump/Freedom Caucus/constitutionalist wing, let alone the libertarian wing. And the Democrats no long tolerate their most sensible, middle-of-the-raod members.


29 posted on 09/30/2017 2:53:44 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Only their self-aggrandizement matters.)
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What ails our republic isn’t a dearth of political parties.

The abandonment of state appointed senators pulled the keystone from the Framers’ balanced structure of government.

We can continue our 104 year-old dance around party idols, but free government cannot possibly return without repeal of the 17th Amendment.


30 posted on 09/30/2017 3:05:52 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: sparklite2

Last line....precisely


31 posted on 09/30/2017 5:07:54 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: TBP; Redmen4ever; BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; campaignPete R-CT; ...

See 1912 for an an example of what happens when your vote splits and your opponents doesn’t. Wilson the rat got 42% of the vote (less votes than the losing rat from 1908) and over 400 electoral votes.

HARD PASS. As long as we have the first past the post electoral systems this is insane suicide. There can be one major party on the right, or we lose. Observe Canada from 1993 to 2004. Observe Alberta Canada in their last election where the hard left won (the conservatives parties wised up and merged so they will be a one term wonder).

The parties “imploding” would be meaningless, parties are made up of people, who would all still be alive. Almost all Northern Whigs became Republicans, and they made up the large majority of Republicans.

“Moderates” from both parties (there are few enough moderate rats) joining together in a “centrist” party is a fantasy of media idiots who think the country is full of passionate moderates, lol, such a party would be a joke. They’d get a lot of endorsements from papers no one reads and a lot of third place finishes, they’d have no grassroots activists.

The way to win is simple, nominate conservatives in the GOP primary. It’s too hard? Well it’s a helluva lot easier than any wild scheme.


32 posted on 09/30/2017 7:06:37 PM PDT by Impy (The democrat party is the enemy of your family and civilization itself, forget that at your peril.)
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NY & CT allow cross endorsement. Gives NY Conservative Party influence . . .CT Independent Party, same


33 posted on 09/30/2017 10:57:23 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (Committee to Re-Elect the President ( CREEP ))
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To: Impy

The Democrats would split too. See 1860.


34 posted on 10/01/2017 5:18:55 AM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Only their self-aggrandizement matters.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT
I'm aware of that. My parents were involved in helping to start the Conservative Party. My dad is even mentioned in J. Daniel Mahoney's book Actions Speak Louder about the party's founding. Dad was the person who bound up the party's first set of petitions to go up to Albany.
35 posted on 10/01/2017 5:21:09 AM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Only their self-aggrandizement matters.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT
In fact, New York now has eight<.i< ballot-qualified parties: Democrat, Republican, Conservative, Green, Independence, Working Families, Women's Equality, and Reform.
36 posted on 10/01/2017 5:23:05 AM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Only their self-aggrandizement matters.)
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