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Iraqi Kurdistan referendum: High turnout in independence vote
BBC ^ | 25 Sep 2017 | BBC

Posted on 09/25/2017 8:03:08 PM PDT by BeauBo

Large numbers of people have taken part in a landmark vote on independence for Iraq's Kurdistan region, amid growing opposition both at home and abroad. Votes are still being counted, with a big "yes" victory expected. Kurds say it will give them a mandate to negotiate secession, but Iraq's PM denounced it as "unconstitutional". Neighbours Turkey and Iran, fearing separatist unrest in their own Kurdish minorities, threatened to close borders and impose sanctions on oil exports. The referendum passed off peacefully across the three provinces that make up the region, and turnout was estimated at about 72%, according to the electoral commission.

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KEYWORDS: kurd; kurdistan
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Could be historic. Turkey, Iran and Baghdad all are making big threats, including troop buildups. SecState Tillerson says it will not change our historic relationship with the Kurds.

Lot's of celebration in Iraqi Kurdistan - they have wanted independence for generations (like the Irish, before Independence)


1 posted on 09/25/2017 8:03:09 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: BeauBo

Hot babes!


2 posted on 09/25/2017 8:08:45 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: BeauBo

Of course, THE SWAMP opposes and the USA will once again betray these brave people who foolishly were our allies.


3 posted on 09/25/2017 8:39:33 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Nessie ... Sasquatch ... The Free Syrian Army ...)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

“Hot babes!”
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Yep, the Kurds are not ISIS or Islamist friendly.


4 posted on 09/25/2017 8:45:23 PM PDT by House Atreides (Send BOTH Hillary & Bill to prison.)
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To: Texas Fossil; SJackson
Barzani faced down everyone's threats, including Erdogan, to go ahead with this referendum.

Between this, the defeat of ISIS and the rise of a de facto Syrian Kurdish territory (Rojava - West Kurdistan), the Kurds are closer to their long held dream of Independence, than anyone alive today has seen.

Baghdad demands that the KRG hand over all border posts and airports immediately, but Barzani said that the partnership with Iraq is over.

Iran closed the border. Iran and Turkey massed some military near the border.

Reminds me of a scaled down version of the birth of Israel. Some have been calling it a potential "second Israel in the region."


5 posted on 09/25/2017 9:05:36 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: DIRTYSECRET

YOU sir, are a chauvinist!!! Perhaps even a male chauvinist pig!!!

And the WORST PART is that I WAS GOING TO POST THAT!!!!

:)

Someone always beats me to the good posts.

What a hotty


6 posted on 09/25/2017 10:17:57 PM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know that if Trump is kicked ouokt of office, it is WAR!)
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To: Forgotten Amendments

The Kurds paid for their independence in blood, when the Iraqi government was cowering in Baghdad in fear of ISIS. If the U.S. sides with the artificial entity called Iraq it will be a stain on America’s reputation.


7 posted on 09/25/2017 11:55:27 PM PDT by littleharbour
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To: littleharbour

The globalist Deep Staters & Administration appointees such as McMaster will be pushing for an anti-Kurd independence policy.


8 posted on 09/26/2017 8:27:38 AM PDT by House Atreides (Send BOTH Hillary & Bill to prison.)
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To: BeauBo

Thank you sir!

It did not go un-noted.

[UPDATE] RTÜK decides to remove KRG’s TV channel from Turkish satellite

https://www.turkishminute.com/2017/09/25/update-rtuk-decides-to-remove-krgs-tv-channel-from-turkish-satellite/

Erdogan the Islamist must have had a Hitler bunker moment spew.


9 posted on 09/26/2017 10:36:57 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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You don’t vote to take land from a sovereign nation. California can’t and these leftist Kurds can’t. This was an exercise in futility— Trust me. Kurds don’t take land away from Syria or Iraq by voting their own interest. This is laughable.


10 posted on 09/26/2017 10:38:32 AM PDT by raiderboy ( "...if we have to close down our government, we’re building that wall.”)
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To: Forgotten Amendments

I don’t think so. There is more than the US in the background on this.


11 posted on 09/26/2017 10:40:38 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: raiderboy

Iraq and Syria are countries made up by British and French diplomats after WWI. They didn’t take into consideration ethnic and relidious divides. The referendum is just part of an ongoing correction to the fubar event that took place close to 100 years ago.


12 posted on 09/26/2017 11:09:56 AM PDT by Armscor38
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To: raiderboy

When in the Course of human events...


13 posted on 09/26/2017 11:48:13 AM PDT by Freedumb
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To: Texas Fossil

Iraq would be wise to give the Kurds a LARGE degree of autonomy and have them as an ally, not an enemy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9umvJFIRUdY


14 posted on 09/26/2017 12:46:40 PM PDT by Paul R. (I don't want to be energy free, we want to be energy dominant in terms of the world. -D. Trump)
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To: Paul R.

Agree

Lots of the pieces are in the air now. A lot more than is reported anywhere.


15 posted on 09/26/2017 3:48:14 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: House Atreides; All

I hope they make it to independence or at least a federated entity with internal governance. That is if Turkey and the rest of Iraq let them.


16 posted on 09/26/2017 11:51:01 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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Turkey has 15 million Kurds within its borders. They would be wise to avoid spilling a lot of blood.


17 posted on 09/27/2017 7:36:25 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: BeauBo

Erdogan is and will be a problem.

5.56mm


18 posted on 09/27/2017 7:47:00 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Armscor38; caww; DoughtyOne; raiderboy; House Atreides; BeauBo; All

Your assumption about the motives of the British and French after WWI is totally mistaken. These colonialist countries absolutely took into consideration ethnic and religious divides. Their whole purpose was to compose countries with such a mix of incompatible entities that they would be easy to rule. Remember the old “divide and rule” saying. They made sure there was lots of division. They also did it in Africa, for example Nigeria with Yoruba, Hausa, and Ibo. You may not remember the vicious Ibo war a few decades ago when the more competent Ibos wanted their independence or at least autonomy from the rest of Nigeria. A hundred years ago, the only fubar was the fact that these diplomats represented the “deep state” of their era and deliberately made these messes.


19 posted on 09/30/2017 1:43:43 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin

Your point about Nigeria is demonstrated again by current events - the Government is conducting another genocidal campaign against largely Christian ethnic groups who were shoe-horned into Nigeria when formed, and who have been bucking to get out every since.


20 posted on 09/30/2017 11:47:55 AM PDT by BeauBo
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