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Violence Erupts on Desperate Caribbean Islands: ‘All the Food Is Gone’
NYT ^ | 9/10/17

Posted on 09/10/2017 10:14:03 PM PDT by Kartographer

At dawn, people began to gather, quietly planning for survival after Hurricane Irma.

They started with the grocery stores, scavenging what they needed for sustenance: water, crackers, fruit.

But by nightfall on Thursday, what had been a search for food took a more menacing turn, as groups of looters, some of them armed, swooped in and took whatever of value was left: electronics, appliances and vehicles.

“All the food is gone now,” Jacques Charbonnier, a 63-year-old resident of St. Martin, said in an interview on Sunday. “People are fighting in the streets for what is left.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hurricaneirma
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I haven't posted this for a while:

"Let me tell you something about humans, nephew: They're a wonderful, friendly people - as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working." "But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those friendly, intelligent, wonderful people...will become as nasty and as violent as the most blood-thirsty Klingon."  Quark from: The Siege of AR-558


1 posted on 09/10/2017 10:14:03 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: Kartographer

Welcome to the Tribulation.


2 posted on 09/10/2017 10:16:27 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: Kartographer

I don’t know. I mean this is the NYT and it’s been what, one day?


3 posted on 09/10/2017 10:19:48 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Kartographer

A little preview of what to expect when, one day, all the EBT debit cards flash “NSF”.


4 posted on 09/10/2017 10:24:11 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: Beowulf9

There is no by line.

They brought Jason Blair back.


5 posted on 09/10/2017 10:25:12 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: SubMareener

Serious stuff


6 posted on 09/10/2017 10:25:19 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: Kartographer

No preparation?! All the food is gone. Stupid. And not our problem.


7 posted on 09/10/2017 10:26:29 PM PDT by Reno89519 (Drain the Swamp is not party specific. Lyn' Ted is still a liar, Good riddance to him.)
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To: SubMareener

I don’t think we’re there yet bro but it is definitely coming.

I’m glad some people are prepping a bit - just for natural disasters, riots, etc.

But I’d say most of America relies on the grocery stores being stocked. Which I think is a bad idea.

I have no idea what they do on these islands.


8 posted on 09/10/2017 10:29:38 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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Evidently, the Caribbean doesn’t warehouse and food supplies — none whatsoever.

What are the odds the criminals have horded the food supplies... Or what are the odds NYT has trouble with reality...


9 posted on 09/10/2017 10:34:08 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Kartographer

Just more horse shiite from the NYT. These people are surrounded by an ocean teeming with edible seafood. This is either your garden variety looting or a big pile of NYT stupid.


10 posted on 09/10/2017 10:42:20 PM PDT by SanchoP
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To: Kartographer

Circa 1965 Hurricane Betsy in South Louisiana. The Southern end of Lafourche Parish was devastated. Their was no looting nor crime. People helped people.

In my home we had no electricity for about 10 days. We had a freezer full of meat. When it thawed we ate the hell out of steak and my parents had me load the rest of it up and give it to others as it would go bad if not cooked and eaten in a few days.

What you are seeing is a dependent class with no self standards. It is not pretty. This dependent class is a function of supposedly benevolent government policy which in fact is evil, but not evil by design but is evil. It is good intentions that are constructed without any insight into human nature. It is a failure!

Government policy by and large destroys self worth in relationship to social norms and decency. As such it has the power to destroy a civil society. If you doubt this analysis just look at Chicago.


11 posted on 09/10/2017 10:44:12 PM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud-man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, CONSTITUTION WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: Kartographer
But by nightfall on Thursday, what had been a search for food took a more menacing turn, as groups of looters, some of them armed, swooped in and took whatever of value was left: electronics, appliances and vehicles.

Sounds like what most any city with an underclass ghetto will be like before long. Disasters like hurricanes and earthquakes just free the inner-feral in the inner cities.

Keep well stocked with ammo.

12 posted on 09/10/2017 10:44:46 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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The Virgin Islands seem to have been hit the hardest by Irma of anywhere in the US. There are a lot of houses completely destroyed.


13 posted on 09/10/2017 10:48:57 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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St Martin has 2 parts...half the island belongs to France the other is Dutch...

and there are a lot of descendants of former black slaves...

the main industry is tourism...5,6 or more ships every day...

they do make a few dinky souvenirs but most of it comes from China...they don’t make anything substantial and most of their goods comes from the mainland’s...

lots of poverty...


14 posted on 09/10/2017 10:59:28 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Reno89519

Fresh and stored dried food will go bad when exposed to surge water. Stored water can be tainted the same way. Canned food can be buried under rubble or washed away. I had all of this happen to me during Katrina, and I followed the best advice at the time for prepping. Learned that a lot of the advice on prepping is just nonsense written by someone who knows nothing about a disaster.


15 posted on 09/10/2017 11:03:08 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Kirkwood

Yep, best plans might not work. Can’t get home or stay home defeats all your efforts anyway. Last year my wife and kids had to evacuate for a day because of fire on hillside (I was out of town). Found themselves briefly at a high school. Preparation was useless in that situation.


16 posted on 09/10/2017 11:11:41 PM PDT by Reno89519 (Drain the Swamp is not party specific. Lyn' Ted is still a liar, Good riddance to him.)
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To: Charles Martel

That’s why trump, shumer n Pelosi are moving to get rid of that pesky debt ceiling. Blank checks for everyone, well not the middle class.


17 posted on 09/10/2017 11:14:18 PM PDT by momincombatboots (White Stetsons up.. let's save our country!)
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To: Kirkwood

So can you share how to store my dried food.. I am surrounded by a lake on threes sides less than a mile away. We have a lot of expensive dried food. Thanks.. they moved irmas temnant to the west, thankfully cuz it was headed right for Knoxville last week.


18 posted on 09/10/2017 11:18:53 PM PDT by momincombatboots (White Stetsons up.. let's save our country!)
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To: Kartographer

Notice that NYTimes could not help but put in a plug for the Cuban Communist government. I have real doubts about their knowledge of facts on the ground in Cuba:

“Cuba is very organized,” said Orlando Eorlsando, 53, as he replaced his front door with bloated plywood in Havana. “The priority of the government is to keep people safe and preserve life.”

While the Cuban response seemed to be a well-oiled machine, elsewhere in the Caribbean the government reaction has been halting, critics say.


19 posted on 09/10/2017 11:53:08 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

“The Virgin Islands seem to have been hit the hardest by Irma of anywhere in the US. There are a lot of houses completely destroyed.”

There are a lot of thatched roof huts completely destroyed.


20 posted on 09/11/2017 12:00:57 AM PDT by faucetman (Ju"st the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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