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A Theistic Explanation for Why We Canít Find Any Extraterrestrials
PJ Media ^ | September 9, 2017 | Edward Watson

Posted on 09/10/2017 5:05:47 AM PDT by Raymond Pamintuan

The very serious problems of abiogenesis and technological intelligence and the mathematical odds against finding intelligent extraterrestrials explain why we’ve never been able to detect extraterrestrial intelligences—and probably never will. We can all sleep soundly at night without worrying that aliens are going to come down from the sky to destroy or invade us.

This then brings us to what is usually ignored in science: God.

Since I am a Christian, this article is limited to the Christian worldview, which is centered on Jesus Christ. (Note: This section does not imply the biblical text is necessarily “true,” only that this is what it is teaching. We have the freedom to accept its teaching or not, but it does provide an internally-consistent cosmology that explains why we’ve never detected extraterrestrials.)

According to the New Testament:

1. God had his Son, Jesus, create the universe:

John 1:3 He created the universe—nothing exists that wasn’t created by him.

1 Corinthians 8:6 To us, there’s only one God, the Father, the originator of the universe and for whom we live; and there’s one Lord Jesus Christ, the creator of the universe and creator of mankind.

Colossians 1:13-17

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KEYWORDS: aliens; bible; callingartbell; extraterrestrials; lds; mormon; newtestament
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Edward Watson says the New Testament explains why we've never been able to detect aliens, and probably never will.
1 posted on 09/10/2017 5:05:47 AM PDT by Raymond Pamintuan
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To: Raymond Pamintuan

Not really. It’s someone’s theory based on Bible verses.

2 posted on 09/10/2017 5:10:13 AM PDT by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as well say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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To: Raymond Pamintuan

Interesting. Lots of proof texting, of course and I didn’t devote the time to checking his context so I’m taking his article at face value. Doesn’t really investigate the idea that all the ETs could also be humans from other Earths.

An infinite God can do anything except not be himself.

3 posted on 09/10/2017 5:16:20 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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To: Raymond Pamintuan

C.S. Lewis covered this in one of his books on essays and sermons.

There are four possibilities.
1. We are alone. The universe is “Our World” and we can get to any part of it if we travel far enough. Such a state would make our faith more probable rather than less probable.

2. We are the only or one of several fallen planets but less advanced than the others that are unfallen. Advanced sinless beings are commonly referred to as Angels and we have theology for that.

3. We are a fallen planet and there are other beings that are advanced fallen beings that are more advanced than us - Advanced fallen beings are called demons and we have theology to deal with them.

4. There are unfallen and fallen beings that are less advanced than us and given our history dealing with peoples more primitive than us God help them because we will probably look like demons to them.

4 posted on 09/10/2017 5:19:55 AM PDT by Fai Mao (I still want to see The PIAPS in prison)
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To: Raymond Pamintuan
If the New Testament is true, we are why the universe exists. Extraterrestrial aliens will exist eventually but it will be because they will be created by those destined to rule over the universe.

The author is apparently a Mormon, although he does not say so. He repeats the Mormon teaching that men will become gods of their own planets and will father the future inhabitants of those planets.

5 posted on 09/10/2017 5:24:03 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: Raymond Pamintuan

Not feeling that religion can answer this?

You have the Drake equation. You have the Fermi paradox. Take your pick. Google(or whatever) them.

6 posted on 09/10/2017 5:26:43 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you. .)
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To: Raymond Pamintuan

Aliens, e.t.’s = demons

7 posted on 09/10/2017 5:27:37 AM PDT by delayah
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To: iowamark

If man travels to other worlds, how many generations before those offspring are no longer Earthlings but have become extraterrestrial?

8 posted on 09/10/2017 5:29:48 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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To: Raymond Pamintuan

There are extra terrestrials.

We just call them *angels* and *demons*.

9 posted on 09/10/2017 5:30:04 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Raymond Pamintuan

Chuck missler and high riss

10 posted on 09/10/2017 5:37:03 AM PDT by mel (There are only 2 races decent and undecent people)
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To: iowamark

The author has a web page. He isn’t a Mormon:

11 posted on 09/10/2017 5:39:24 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Raymond Pamintuan

On the other hand there is the Dark Forest Theory (where a deity plays in it, is unknown). However, in a dark forest the loud animals advertise their presence and become prey for the silent stalkers.

All animals in the forest are in competition for resources, so the fewer there are, the better (more food) for the reminder. So the animals become territorial, excluding other possible competitors usually by killing them.

So in a dark forest the best survival strategy is to remain silent while being ever wary.

As above, so below - and vice versa.

In the host of trillions on trillions of stars known to exist, life must have has arisen many times over the course of 13 plus billions of years, just not all at once. In any given time period, races from different stars or planets within one system compete for resources. Eventually, one will war with another and the victor take the resources. Some victors will become more powerful than others requiring more resources, branch out. Hearing the noisy ones, they go in for the resources, eliminating the noisy ones who would be competition in the future.

It just not our turn yet ...

12 posted on 09/10/2017 5:43:59 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Raymond Pamintuan

It’s much more simple than that.

Why could Jesus see spirits and his disciples could not?

It all has to do with the reason why Jesus taught us what He did. By following His guidance, “You too can do the things that He did.” per his own words.

Just as it is not the matters of the flesh, but the matters of the spirit or soul that matter the most, it’s all about the frequency of our consciousness and how it changes when we are “Born Again of the Spirit.” What actually happens is our consciousness which in reality is our soul or spirit grows.

Our consciousness grows to the point that we begin to perceive directly from our consciousness rather than being limited to our five senses.

How does it grow, by raising up in frequency... Thus the concept of “Rapture” as being “Raised Up.”

Every sin creates an obstacle to Love in our souls which acts as an anchor or ballast to lower our consciousness, often so low that it creates illness or merely that our perception of reality is that we see mole hills as mountains.

By worshiping and seeking God, we raise our consciousness. We can raise it to the point that the mole hills, previously viewed as mountains are non existent and now mountains are perceived as mole hills.


Everything that Jesus taught us was how to get rid of anger, fear, guilt and any other low frequency consciousness and fill our souls with LOVE.

Guess what... Just as the frequencies of a radio or TV create separate channels, so does the frequency of our consciousness.

The ET’s exist, and they are here right now just as Jesus is here right now. His Father has sent the Advocate or Holy Spirit to help us raise up and perceive Him. That’s what life is all about. It’s the reason we are here. So our souls can grow!

Everything I have stated is from my own experiences. So far I have met four individuals that are two souls in one body. This is much different that an attached evil spirit. These were actually equal sharing of the physical body. I’m placing a target on my back by stating this in a public forum, but the weeds Jesus spoke of in Matthew 13 are ET’s, specifically the grays. I’ve seen them in spirit and realize why they are here.

The grays are very intelligent, but have no compassion or emotion as they lack the feminine aspect of their consciousness. They are like half a bean seed in that they can’t grow. They know they can’t make it through “Heaven on Earth” so they are creating this upcoming turmoil in order to create emotional havoc on earth. Why? So they can move in and attach to the emotional humans and serve as their logical aspect, hoping that the two souls have merged as one and can survive in the higher consciousness. It won’t work.

God is in control of everything and even the weeds serve a higher purpose. These weeds fear your LOVE as it is like placing hot coals upon their heads. This is why it is very important to LOVE your enemies. The weeds can’t attach to you while you are radiating LOVE. They will try everything they can to create fear in you and lower your consciousness in order that they can attach. Your perfect LOVE casts out fear.

Many of you have read my comments and criticized me for being able to perceive and communicate with spirits outside the physical body. Jesus did it. And if I follow His teachings and accept Him as my Savior, then He can do it through me.

What is happening right now in that people are moving into their emotional irrational consciousness and losing their logical component is exactly what the grays want to happen. You see it after the election and you see it world wide. I was shown this process back in the early 1990’s in several visions and the related turmoil on earth that accompanies the shift in consciousness.

I know that my words will ring true to many of you and your own soul or spirit will respond in a way that you will be aware of it. That is how the process works. To those who have ears, let them hear. To those who totally disagree with my words, that is fine too. I only ask that you pray for me that I may be guided toward the truth, even if it is different that where I am now.

13 posted on 09/10/2017 5:47:32 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: Raymond Pamintuan

What is usually ignored in LIBERALS as well: God.

14 posted on 09/10/2017 5:54:35 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: tired&retired

For those who are scientists, I am one too.

In meditation, I perceive any level of consciousness above the level at which I exist, as LIGHT.

When this higher consciousness comes to our level we also see it as LIGHT. I see the Holy Spirit as liquid light. I see the light flowing into pastors who are receiving Divine Guidance in their sermons and are learning from the words coming from their own mouths. God is LIGHT.

What I have observed is the same thing that Neals Bohr, the father of atomic physics and Einsteins foe discovered. When an electron goes from an outer orbital to a lower orbital it gives off a photon or light. The first orbital has to electrons rotating in opposite directions just as the human soul has to aspects, masculine and feminine rotating in opposite directions.

Even particle physics spin field behaviors match the attributes of masculine and feminine consciousness.

Max Plank’s work on quanta applies to the shifts in consciousness from one level of perception to the next.

Charles’ law that describes how gases expand when heated.

I’ve noticed that when a person dies it gets very cold around them as they take on the energy necessary to raise back up to Heaven.

Recently scientists discovered that there is a flash of light at the moment the sperm penetrates the ovum at conception.(as consciousness lowers to provide life to the new human.)

By the way... Consciousness is a physical object when viewed from a higher level of consciousness and those who say that spirituality is not material or physical are wrong. I can demonstrate this and have done so for many scientists. They just can’t comprehend what they are seeing.

By the way, Einsteins theory of relativity is wrong and needs to be adjusted. Time is not a function of the speed of light. Time is a function of the frequency of consciousness divided by the speed of light. When consciousness frequency exceeds the speed of light, time and space collapse. Thus “C” needs to be adjusted for the variable of consciousness in which “ALL” exists.

15 posted on 09/10/2017 6:03:49 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: raybbr

Definition of theology:

It’s someone’s theory based on Bible verses.

16 posted on 09/10/2017 6:05:13 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Raycpa

: )


17 posted on 09/10/2017 6:06:25 AM PDT by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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To: tired&retired

‘Time is not a function of the speed of light. Time is a function of the frequency of consciousness divided by the speed of light’


18 posted on 09/10/2017 6:14:56 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: Raymond Pamintuan

If God has created life on other worlds, so be it. We will never make contact. The distances are simply to great to overcome. If we ever approach travel at the speed of light in space travel, it would still require multiple generations to cover the distance, and that won’t happen for several reasons, supplies being a chief concern.

19 posted on 09/10/2017 6:21:41 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed)
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To: Raymond Pamintuan

Here is a pre-caffeine thought...

What if the real answer is that we are the first inhabited planet and that all of the extraterrestrials they are looking for don’t exist yet because we are the ones that will eventually colonize the universe.

20 posted on 09/10/2017 6:21:59 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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