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Iraqi pilot killed in training crash near Fort Thomas
Sierra Vista Herald ^ | David Bell and Ronald Arrellin Jr. Eastern Arizona Courier

Posted on 09/09/2017 9:29:33 AM PDT by SandRat

FORT THOMAS — For the second time in two years, an Iraqi jet crashed during a training mission above the Arizona desert, killing its pilot.

According to 1st Lt. Lacey Roberts, public information officer with the 162nd Wing of the Arizona Air National Guard, an F-16 Fighting Falcon crashed in Fort Thomas at about 3 p.m.

The crash was in the vicinity of Blackrock Road, near the shooting range.

“The pilot was doing a routine training mission in that area,” Roberts told Eastern Arizona Courier.

Cause of the crash has not yet been released. An interim safety investigation board has been convened.

“Typically, the preliminary results are compiled in about two weeks, and then a full investigative board will take over,” Roberts said.

Roberts said the plane carried one person, whom she reported was Iraqi. She said she did not yet have authority to release the victim’s identity.

“The 162nd Wing is located at Tucson International Airport, and we train both American and international pilots,” Roberts said.

The pilot was flying an F-16 belonging to the Iraqi Air Force, according to a release Roberts issued. The U.S. Air Force is training Iraqi pilots in F-16 fighters at the request of the Iraqi government.

In 2015, an Iraqi pilot, flying an Iraqi aircraft, was killed in a crash near Douglas during a training mission with the 162nd Wing.

Graham County Sheriff’s Office provided security around the crash site. Pima and Fort Thomas Rescue teams were initially called out to assist.

This story was edited at 8:55 a.m. Wednesday, Sept. 6, 2017, with comments from a 162nd Wing spokesperson.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: arizona; aviation; f16; iraqi; iraqitroops; planecrash
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1 posted on 09/09/2017 9:29:33 AM PDT by SandRat
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To: SandRat

Lovely, this means we have Iraqis flying F-16s, over American citizens. I saw Saudis were in Red Flag last month too.

Everyone feel good about this?


2 posted on 09/09/2017 9:51:14 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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To: SandRat

do we keep Iraqi owned F-16s in the U.S. ?


3 posted on 09/09/2017 9:53:05 AM PDT by stylin19a (Lynch & Clinton - Snakes on a Plane)
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To: stylin19a

What happens if one of them goes jihadi all of a sudden?


4 posted on 09/09/2017 9:54:48 AM PDT by CondorFlight
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To: SandRat

The F-16 is a fantastic aircraft but for a nation like Iraq it costs too much to fly.

every hour certainly costs probably 10 or $20,000 at least and there is no way that they are going to maintain those sophisticated aircraft by themselves.

it’s famous in the Middle East, they don’t repair anything at all.

they are better off with the Super Tucano or something like that.


5 posted on 09/09/2017 9:55:30 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: CondorFlight

great...you know the best ones troll FR for the best ideas....


6 posted on 09/09/2017 9:57:40 AM PDT by stylin19a (Lynch & Clinton - Snakes on a Plane)
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To: stylin19a
do we keep Iraqi owned F-16s in the U.S. ?

The AZ National Guard based at Tucson International is the designated training center for foreign F-16 pilots.

The OP article is a bit old, and the pilot has been identified -

http://tucson.com/news/local/pilot-killed-in-f—crash-while-training-in-tucson/article_5900eede-955a-5430-a078-41de3cee0a73.html

The link also says that the F-16 was Iraqi owned.

7 posted on 09/09/2017 10:01:26 AM PDT by az_gila
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To: gaijin

I just Googled it:

it costs $22,000 per flight hour for a single f-16c.


8 posted on 09/09/2017 10:02:29 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: az_gila

thanks. that’s a little more detail.
It seems goofy for the Iraqis to fly their F16s to Arizona from Iraq 7500 miles( 3 in flight refuels ?) and back.
hence my question.


9 posted on 09/09/2017 10:07:28 AM PDT by stylin19a (Lynch & Clinton - Snakes on a Plane)
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To: CondorFlight

That’s islamophobic! Izlam is a religion of pies!


10 posted on 09/09/2017 10:19:11 AM PDT by fivecatsandadog (DRAIN THE SWAMP. BUILD THE WALL. EFF the rogue judges, Obama and the MSM.)
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To: stylin19a

great...you know the best ones troll FR for the best ideas....

>><<

You’ve got to be kidding.


11 posted on 09/09/2017 11:11:59 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: fivecatsandadog

Our muzzies are not expected to turn jihadi. They are all vetted like Nadabama. /s


12 posted on 09/09/2017 11:12:16 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: laplata

arg...did i really need a sarcasm tag ?


13 posted on 09/09/2017 11:52:47 AM PDT by stylin19a (Lynch & Clinton - Snakes on a Plane)
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To: DesertRhino

I’m not sure what the problem is. Iraq needs a military strong enough to stop ISIS. That’s surely in the our strong interest. One of the mistakes that lead to ISIS is that Democrats in CONgress held up sales of aircraft to the Iraqi military. If you remember, when ISIS swept into Iraq from Syria, Iraq had NO combat aircraft at all and had to jury rig light aircraft to fire Hellfire missiles. Iraq needs an air force.


14 posted on 09/09/2017 11:54:17 AM PDT by WatchungEagle
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To: WatchungEagle

You can’t think of the problem of iraqis, Afghans and Saudis, flying in fighter bombers over the USA?

Real bright. Fyi, it’s almost 9/11.
For extra background you might ask a lot of our military men who were murdered by so-called friendly forces in the last couple of years what problems they might expect from our allies.


15 posted on 09/09/2017 12:24:27 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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To: stylin19a

Sorry. I’ve seen people here make similar comments and they were serious. They think there are no other conservative sites out there and exaggerate the influence of FR.


16 posted on 09/09/2017 12:35:37 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: laplata

wait, what ? there’s other conservative sites ? and we aren’t in a hologram ?


17 posted on 09/09/2017 12:41:59 PM PDT by stylin19a (Lynch & Clinton - Snakes on a Plane)
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To: stylin19a

Lol.

Welcome Home, Marine. We {101st Airborne} took over some of I Corps from you guys.


18 posted on 09/09/2017 12:44:59 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: DesertRhino

I read a book that told Pakis training on F-16s in San Diego attacked a nuclear power plant in SoCal. The storyline must be all too real.


19 posted on 09/09/2017 12:51:45 PM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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To: stylin19a

I don’t think they’d be flying around the world.

They’d probably be loaded on some large cargo plane (C-5) or ship.


20 posted on 09/09/2017 12:59:12 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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