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Scottish independence rally held in Berlin
bbc.com ^ | 2 September 2017 | bbc

Posted on 09/02/2017 11:36:25 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

Supporters of Scottish independence have staged a march and rally in Berlin.

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1 posted on 09/02/2017 11:36:25 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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picture: AFP/Getty Images
2 posted on 09/02/2017 11:39:04 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Happy Nobama!)
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Why? Why is there a “Germans for Scottish Independence” organization at all? Are these former citizens of Scotland? What brought them to Germany in the first place?


3 posted on 09/02/2017 11:41:11 PM PDT by lee martell
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scots wha hae
4 posted on 09/02/2017 11:41:40 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Happy Nobama!)
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Imma hold a Biafra Independence Rally in Papua New Guinea.


5 posted on 09/03/2017 12:22:28 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Je Suis Pepe)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Marche des soldats de Robert Bruce - Musikzug Battenberg—YouTube comments are descriptive of Scottish Nationalist and EU aspirations.


6 posted on 09/03/2017 12:32:12 AM PDT by Scram1
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At this point, Mr Fergus apparently tore through the foyer telling witnesses: “I’m going to slit you and kill you.”

Staff and guests ran from the hotel towards the village of Kinloch Rannoch,

7 posted on 09/03/2017 12:50:15 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Happy Nobama!)
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FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Great line :)


8 posted on 09/03/2017 1:05:21 AM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know that if Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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“Independence” as part of the EU! Sounds like a hoe saying she is independent and joins the protection of a pimp instead of a father


9 posted on 09/03/2017 1:44:17 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucifiedc)
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Why is it any of their business? Living abroad, I certainly get annoyed with all the non-Americans who feel they have to tell me how horrible Trump is...


10 posted on 09/03/2017 2:43:16 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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By all means. Scotland should be independent of Germany.


11 posted on 09/03/2017 3:10:07 AM PDT by Petrosius
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Why is there a ‘Germans for Scottish Independence’ organization, Lee? Because the Germs will never forgive Britain for not quietly laying down and dying when they tried taking over Europe twice last century; nor will the rest of Europe forgive us for not sharing their histories of collaboration with their conquerors.

Many ‘Scottish’ nationalists are not Scottish or even British (disgraceful that Cameron allowed the SNP to put their thumb on the scales for the 2014 referendum by giving the vote to 16 year olds and EU citizens).

In addition to the ‘Germans for Scottish Independence’, there were at least ‘Americans for Scottish Independence’, ‘Polish For Yes’, ‘Eu Citizens for an Independent Scotland’, ‘Scots Asians For YES to an Independent Scotland’ and (of course) ‘Irish For Yes’; and the Daily Mail reported that ‘Eastern Europeans will vote “Yes” in the upcoming Scottish independence referendum’.

There is the Australian Brains family of SNP activists: we could send them down for up to 10 years under the still-law Aliens Restriction (Amendment) Act 1919:

If any alien attempts or does any act calculated or likely to cause sedition or disaffection amongst any of His Majesty’s Forces or the forces of His Majesty’s allies, or amongst the civilian population, he shall be liable on conviction on indictment to penal servitude for a term not exceeding ten years, or on summary conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding three months.
Yet we neither imprison nor deport them, allowing them to continue promoting disaffection while our enemies laugh at us.

And this is where the issue expands beyond provincial British politics, as this cowardice affects all the West’s ‘right wing’ parties, all standing like a rabbit caught in headlights as the Left ploughs towards them at full speed. Mark Steyn and Ann Coulter have repeatedly pointed out that we’re playing our enemies’ game for them. Robert Dabney even pointed this out all the way back in 1897: Conservatives have never conserved anything. ‘[C]onservatism is merely the shadow that follows Radicalism as it moves forward towards perdition. It remains behind it, but never retards it, and always advances near its leader.’ (Discussions, vol.4, p.496)

(Amusing: October 13, 2016, SNP deputy leader Angus Robertson warns Our Tess, ‘your days as PM of the United Kingdom are numbered.’ 238 days later, Angus loses his seat and Our Tess remains PM. Hubris, thy name is SNP.)

12 posted on 09/03/2017 4:13:12 AM PDT by QuisSeparabit (Still Scottish, Always British)
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They carry Scottish flags (St Andrews cross) with the EU circle of stars superimposed.

Now I get it. They’re just trying to cut out the layer of middle management— the UK.


13 posted on 09/03/2017 5:41:54 AM PDT by ameribbean expat (Veritas Vincit)
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At this point in time, what with the Scots being flaming lefties who do nothing but push socialist horsedung, it would probably be a good thing for England if they broke away from the Scots and stopped underwriting Scottish lunacy. The Scots have nothing going for them economically except what the British provide in the way of government subsidies.


14 posted on 09/03/2017 6:11:46 AM PDT by DrPretorius
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reflecting (choice of Berlin) the leftist nature of the modern Scottish independence movement.


15 posted on 09/03/2017 8:12:58 AM PDT by Wuli
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Dream on: 11,389,568 English votes for Labour (28.98% of English electorate) and 12,346,007 votes (31.41% of electorate) for Tories: a 2.43% of electorate difference does not a ‘right wing’ country make—and that’s without taking into account another half-million plus votes for various other left wing parties (Alliance for Green Socialism, Communist League, Socialist Labour Party, Socialist Party of Great Britain, Workers Revolutionary Party, etc.) into account.

And how ‘right wing’ are Tories these days? The Tories only argument with Labour is who can pish most taxpayer-cash into the various socialist money pits. The Tories are as happy as Labour to imprison our troops (from Lee Clegg on Maggie’s watch to Sgt. Blackman) and are more concerned with pushing LGBT issues to the military than ensuring they have the kit and RoE to do their job.

Any prospect of the Tories restoring the death penalty? No.
Any prospect of the Tories restoring our right to bear arms (as per 1689 Bill of Rights)? No.
Any prospect of the Tories getting rid of the NHS? No.
Any prospect of the Tories seriously reducing immigration? No.
Any prospect of the Tories rolling back Muslim influence? No.
Any prospect of the Tories doing anything genuinely right wing? No.

Some figures:
England: electorate (2017) 39,303,867; MPs 533
Scotland: electorate (2017) 3,988,432; MPs 59
If England was right wing they could drag the rest of the country rightwards with ease, regardless of any contrary wishes of Wales, Scotland and NI combined (117 MPs and 7,529,291 electorate between them).

The problem with separatists is their ignoring very real problems in favour of chasing chimera—splitting centuries-old countries up and ‘othering’ your countrymen will not magically usher in ‘utopia’. East & West Europe at the turn of the 20th Century totalled 21 countries (including Turkey). Over the course of a century, 1901’s 21 countries fragmented (sometimes explosively) into 49. Is Europe better, more stable, more industrious, for that fragmentation?

More brother wars are not the answer. Mathew 7:15: ‘Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.

16 posted on 09/03/2017 8:13:16 AM PDT by QuisSeparabit (Still Scottish, Always British)
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OK, your well developed response has me rethinking my post. Maybe, at this time, it makes no difference one way or the other whether Scotland (or Wales or Northern Ireland) secede. The United Kingdom is dead already.


17 posted on 09/03/2017 8:22:31 AM PDT by DrPretorius
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Thank you for explaining. I knew absolutely nothing of this ongoing dispute. I do know that, unlike most Americans, Europeans have very long memories in reference to history.
However, in a very similar manner as present day America, many politicians are more concerned about being politically correct than calling out evil when it stares them right in the face.


18 posted on 09/03/2017 9:06:35 AM PDT by lee martell
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Scotland better be careful what it asks for. If they break away from England, they will have to pay for their own welfare programs. The EU certainly isn’t going to do it.


19 posted on 09/03/2017 10:23:07 AM PDT by submarinerswife (Allahu FUBAR)
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All the West is on the road to Hell, the only difference between any of our countries is how far we’re along and how fast we’re going; but there is not one single Western country taking a different road.

Switzerland maybe?

A Libyan imam who received Swiss welfare and preached messages of hatred has lost his asylum status. Local authorities are looking into deporting him. Because Abu Ramadan has a Libyan passport and has made several trips to Libya since his arrival to Switzerland in 1998, the migration authorities cancelled his asylum request earlier this month. Abu Ramadan has a permanent resident permit (C), but now canton Bern can look into revoking it. However, Ramadan can challenge the change of asylum status, which is not yet legally binding. As Swiss public television reported on Wednesday, Ramadan received CHF600,000 ($620,000) in state welfare payments while preaching messages of hatred against other religions from a mosque in Biel.
(see also ‘Switzerland’s controversial Islamic leaders’ on the same site)

Not wishing to counsel only doom and gloom but the first step in solving a problem is recognising one has one.

20 posted on 09/03/2017 12:01:57 PM PDT by QuisSeparabit (Still Scottish, Always British)
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