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Harvey horror: Shivering tot found clinging to drowned mom
AP ^ | Aug 30, 2017

Posted on 08/30/2017 9:43:25 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?

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To: blam
Beaumont is about a 1.5 hour drive directly east on I-10 from Houston.

And we got hammered just as hard as Houston.
And just like with previous hurricanes we'll be ignored.

Tropical Storm Harvey Makes Final Landfall; Major Flooding Swamps East Texas; Heavy Rain Threat From Louisiana to Kentucky
Jack Brooks Regional Airport near Port Arthur picked up a staggering 26.03 inches of rain Tuesday alone, more than doubling the previous calendar-day rainfall record in Beaumont-Port Arthur set over 94 years ago. Their four-day total from Saturday through Tuesday was an incredible 43.27 inches of rain, almost 25 inches greater than their previous record four-day rain record set in September 1980.

Houston got 49.20 inches.

The Golden Triangle (Beaumont, Port Arthur and Orange) is the red headed stepchild in Texas.

I was very lucky, I can see the levee pump house from my backyard and its constant running over the last few days was a blessing. No flooding and had electricity (KUDOS to Entergy for their improvements over the last 10-15 years) the whole time.

61 posted on 08/30/2017 12:02:54 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamiin Franklin)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

Oh I’m betting our HOA earthquake premiums will triple out here, they did after Katrina, and our idiot owners keep it by a narrow margin...


62 posted on 08/30/2017 12:42:08 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: familyop

I believe that it most ties to belief in Yeshua, Yahweh. Those that believe in Him will have strong family values. The less exposure to, and belief in, or acknowledgement of the possibility of the existence of the God of the Bible, the less likely to unconditionally love a child, to the point of sacrificing one’s life for that child.

The good news is that there are Bible-believing, and more importantly, a number of Bible-FOLLOWING people spread in pockets, all over the Western world, though those numbers may be declining. Unfortunately, there are plenty of Laodecian Christians trying to live with one foot in the Kingdom and one foot in the World. It cannot be done. In Matthew 12:30, Jesus states, “Anyone who isn’t with me opposes me, and anyone who isn’t working with me is actually working against me.”

As belief in the God of the Bible wanes in the West, the belief in ‘self as god’ grows, since such people have accountability to no one but themselves. A lay pastor friend of mine was telling me about negotiations for a lot for his mobile home. When he tried to speak of Jesus to the owner of the land, a Jewish man, the man referred to himself as his own god, that Abraham never existed and that both the OT and NT were nothing but stories. He was his own god and he worshipped money. My friend has asked me to pray for this man. I have, and continue to do so.


63 posted on 08/30/2017 12:44:11 PM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
God bless this mother and her child.

I was stationed for a few years at the Air Force Survival School. We used to teach the aircrews the first rule of survival: Unless you have a damned good reason to move (and sometimes you might), stay where you are and let the rescuers find you.

64 posted on 08/30/2017 12:55:47 PM PDT by jumpingcholla34
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To: Chainmail

Are you sure you’re replying to the right person?


65 posted on 08/30/2017 1:03:56 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: philman_36

"And just like with previous hurricanes we'll be ignored. "

Yup.

Just like Katrina, people think it landed in Louisiana...it did not. It came ashore in west Mississippi.

66 posted on 08/30/2017 1:26:24 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Hearing helicopters overhead so rescues are going on somewhere.


67 posted on 08/30/2017 1:46:14 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamiin Franklin)
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To: the OlLine Rebel; Kickass Conservative; DoughtyOne
"Are you sure you’re replying to the right person?"

Pretty sure:

Kickass Conservative wrote: "I hope the poor Woman wasn’t wearing Stiletto Heels. If she was, the Liberals would say she deserved it."

DoughtyOne wrote:"Yes, God’s love pales in comparison... Jesus death on the cross doesn’t even come close."

I guess the two them were trying to be funny, but a mother dying while trying to save her baby isn't an occasion for jokes, right?

68 posted on 08/30/2017 1:53:52 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Chainmail

The first was clearly a reference to the Melania nonsense.

The 2nd, a sarcastic reply to someone saying no love compares to a mothers; obviously stating that God’s love is greater.

I see no big deal here.


69 posted on 08/30/2017 2:05:00 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: blam
I'm shocked! Fox just had a report about the area!
Yeah, it's pretty deep water in places.

With all of the rain North of us it'll be a couple of days before the water goes down due to drainage.
It all runs through here.

70 posted on 08/30/2017 2:16:22 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamiin Franklin)
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To: the OlLine Rebel; DoughtyOne; Kickass Conservative
"I see no big deal here."

Then I can see the problem: anytime our side - conservatives and I would hope Christians or Jews - see the death of a Mother trying to save her baby as an occasion for humor, we've lost who we are supposed to be.

Apparently most of you haven't seen enough death. I have seen more than enough.. What is this, Antifa?

71 posted on 08/30/2017 2:39:39 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Alberta's Child

“Anyone who believes that the mayor of Houston should have ordered the evacuation of the city (or even just sections of it) should realize that this scene would likely have been multiplied thousands of times if a mass evacuation had been ordered.”

Or, if ordered early enough there is a chance this woman would have made far enough out of the heaviest rains before they hit.


72 posted on 08/30/2017 3:43:09 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

straight north on rt 96 and about six miles out of Beaumont it branches into rt 96 and rt 287. An evacuation command issued early enough was possible to execute and likely would have saved lives - moving many evacuees north of the worst rains before they hit.


73 posted on 08/30/2017 3:50:09 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Chainmail

Oh FGS. It’s not joking ABOUT the death, how absurd. It’s making quips about the current political climate or jabbing at another post simply arguing what the greatest love it (perhaps being too touchy about it for this thread).

As far as death - don’t go there.

I watched - yes, WATCHED - my sister die horribly from rare cancer almost exactly 5 years ago. The pain of remmembering how her eyes were, how she writhed, all too much. Don’t tell me I haven’t seen enough. That’s enough for me.


74 posted on 08/30/2017 4:15:35 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Chainmail

I was talking about how these Insane Liberals made an issue with the Shoes the FLOTUS chose to wear when leaving the White House and their apparent Hatred for the people of Texas who they think deserve what is happening to them.

It had nothing to do with the poor Woman who drowned.
I was merely being facetious.

If that offended you, my apologies.


75 posted on 08/30/2017 4:40:01 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative ( Democracy, two Wolves and one Sheep deciding what's for Dinner.)
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To: Chainmail

I replied to another one of your Posts up thread.

My comment had nothing to do with the Woman who drowned.

My other Reply to you explains that.


76 posted on 08/30/2017 4:42:39 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative ( Democracy, two Wolves and one Sheep deciding what's for Dinner.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

I am very sorry for what your sister went through and I will remember her in my prayers.

Just remember that the thread was about the death of a good mother and her poor, shivering motherless baby. The idea of facetious posts was offensive to me.

I am a combat veteran of Vietnam and I saw a lot of good people die. That kind of thing leaves you with a sadness that stays.


77 posted on 08/30/2017 5:55:21 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

I understand where you were coming from - I just found the tragedy of the shivering baby in the arms of her drowned mother too sad to enjoy any humor.


78 posted on 08/30/2017 5:57:28 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian
A Formerly Proud Canadian wrote:
"A lay pastor friend of mine was telling me about negotiations for a lot for his mobile home. When he tried to speak of Jesus to the owner of the land, a Jewish man, the man referred to himself as his own god, that Abraham never existed and that both the OT and NT were nothing but stories. He was his own god and he worshipped money."

During the 1990s, an old farmer northeast of Edmonton, Alberta, wrote a nearly identical report along with the story of his family's move to Canada, when he was 10 years of age. Quite a migration to Alberta from Germany immediately after the end of World War 2, eh?


79 posted on 08/30/2017 7:53:30 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian

What about the vestige of Roman culture that we came from? It’s not doing very well, either. We should all study more to find out why.


80 posted on 08/30/2017 8:06:42 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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