Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 27 August 2017

Various driveby media television networks ^ | 27 August 2017 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

[Alas Babylon!]

I do believe Yiddish is about 70% German, 20% Slavic (Russian/Polish) and 10% Hebrew.

My understanding is Yiddish speakers can read most German and understand about 50% in a conversation (accents and slang lowers understanding of spoken words vice most printed texts).

Someone correct me if I’m wrong.

[Cheerio]

Apple has over $5 Billion parked overseas

Apples - the pride and joy of millenials through out the nation.

[ROCKLOBSTER]

He was lying Ted when it came to immigration (amnesty) and the importation of foreign workers (h-1B).

He also was "Lying Ted" when he said he was eligible.

[ROCKLOBSTER]

Yiddish, he is called Chicken-schtupper.

Wow, that's....uh, it's really uh....

Hmmmmm....

[Unrepentant VN Vet]

“Chicken-schtupper”?

“Merde”?

Lord, you should hear the names that [BLEEP] gets called by some people who are living there.

The last time we were visiting, our sweet little DIL walked into the livingroom when he came on the TV, called him some things that just about made ME blush and then almost broke down in tears in embarrassment.

Sure am grateful we moved out...now, we’ve just gotta get the kids to leave.

[joesbucks]

Saw your post. Interesting. But one thing bugs me. I keep reading companies are looking for people but can't find them. Not only looking but begging. They can't find people who can pass a drug test. Or they don't have the qualifications necessary to fill the position. But drug test takes out a lot of qualified folks.

In Michigan of all places which is having a building boom both in buildings and infrastructure, they can't find people to train to become journeymen for skilled trades jobs. If they get past the drug testing, they can't get past the math skilled needed to do the training.

It appears to me that immigrants, illegal or otherwise, aren't the real issue. The real issue is us with our poor skills, education and drug habits.

[kabar]

I keep reading companies are looking for people but can't find them. Not only looking but begging. They can't find people who can pass a drug test. Or they don't have the qualifications necessary to fill the position. But drug test takes out a lot of qualified folks.

And what would be their motivation to lie about such things? It used to be that immigrants are doing the jobs Americans won't do. Now it is that immigrants are doing the jobs Americans can't do. The bottom line is the reason they keep putting forth this crap. They want a cheap, inexhaustible supply of labor, unskilled and skilled.

H-1B Disclosure Data Show Employer's Wage Savings

It appears to me that immigrants, illegal or otherwise, aren't the real issue. The real issue is us with our poor skills, education and drug habits.

The real issue is a massive surplus of labor that forces people on to welfare and encourages drug usage. If we had a shortage of labor, salaries would be going up not down or stagnating.

There has been a long-term decline in the labor force participation rate of working-age (18 to 65) natives without a bachelor’s degree. Only 70.4 percent of natives in this group were in the labor force in the third quarter of this year; in 2007, before the recession, it was 74 percent, and in 2000 it was 75.9 percent.

In the third quarter of 2016, there were a total of 50.5 million immigrants and natives ages 18 to 65 not in the labor force, up from 43.4 million in 2007 and 37.9 million in 2000.

Of the 50.5 million currently not in the labor force, 40.1 million (79.5 percent) did not have a bachelor’s degree.

The above figures do not include the unemployed, who are considered to be part of the labor force because, although they are not working, they are looking for work. There were almost eight million unemployed immigrants and natives in the third quarter of this year; almost three-quarters of the unemployed are adults who do not have a bachelor’s degree.

[DanZ]

Statistics - One way for people to cheat and deceive
Looking for root causes is difficult, G’ment Statistics tell us that there are more votes cast than there are voters in some areas. Whom to believe ???

[joesbucks]

The Michigan jobs I am aware of were union jobs. Unions want to suppress wages?

[kabar]

Union leaders want increased membership. Historically, the unions have wanted decreased immigration. However, today union leaders want more of it, legal and illegal. They could care less about their own members. It is all about power and votes. Take a look at this video from the former head of the SEIU. It will blow your mind.

Eliseo Medina Speaks on Immigrants for Votes

[joesbucks]

I can see that from low level jobs such as what the SEIU represents. But I’m speaking more to jobs that traditional unions represent in the skilled trades. Iron workers. Electrical Workers. Plumbers and Pipefitters. Even the railroads are once again looking for people. Jobs that require more than just showing up and moving a broom. Those labor leaders represent well paying jobs and their goal is to keep it that way. The unions in those skilled trades can’t get people who are drug free in to train and deploy.

[kabar]

No, it is not just the union leaders of low skilled unions. They are all supportive of amnesty and more immigrants. The rank and file is not, which is why Trump was able to tap into their vote. American jobs for American workers.

[joesbucks]

Too many American workers areally too stoned and low skilled.

If you look at the bls site, the people with lowest employment are those with less than a high school diploma. Well duh.

I would have bought the need for jobs in the height of the recession. Now, it’s down to the bottom of the barrel.

[kabar]

Too many American workers areally too stoned and low skilled.

Really? You have a very low opinion of your fellow countryman. What is your solution? Continue to bring in millions of foreign workers? Immigrants, legal and illegal, use the welfare system to a greater extent than the native born. Your attitude stinks.

[going hot]

Well, that does pose a problem, a small one indeed.

How does one get 90% participation in anything, much less a primary?

I am not asking with sarcasm, as the reasoning is sound, just how to go about it, short of bribery or gunpoint.

[bray]

Targeting. You spend all your time talking to Repubs. We got as high as 95% in some areas.

[joesbucks]

Yep. My attitude does stink for those who have chosen to either be stoned or won't get the training necessary to play in the sand box or have the skills needed to become productive citizens.

Simply drying up the labor poor does no good if the remaining pool of natives is polluted with non-contributors.

[joesbucks]

Something I was reflecting on the other day. In my circle of friends, family and acquaintances we are all gainfully employed and making decent money with the exception of one person. Sure, we'd all like to earn more. But we're making it ok, working decent jobs with decent benefits.

That one exception is a person who has a hair trigger temper and shoots off his mouth too often or storm out of the work place. Thus his employment record is checkered, he is underemployed and he finds it difficult to get a good reference. But other than that, all others are doing ok. None of us have specialty degrees or fancy backgrounds. We simply have good work ethics and have demonstrated we are flexible and can take on a challenge. But I don't live in a depressed area like Youngstown, OH or Harlan, KY where steel and coal once reigned. I live in an area that while we suffer from a downturn, we don't have the severed valleys when times or bad or high peaks when times are good. We tend to ebb and flow. In my 40+ years of working, I've been unemployed twice. Once I was laid off from a failing construction company very early in my career and was out of work for about 2 weeks. The second time was a closing of my location (I was offered a chance to relocate, but turned it down)and I was out of regular work for 3 months. That was in 2001. During the time off, I did find temporary work to fill the gap until my career job was found.

My reality is vastly different from what I often hear regarding the employment picture. And I'm the first to admit we do have problems. But a significant amount of the problems we face, at least in my area, isn't from illegal or legal immigrants. It's from ill prepared to work natives.