Birmingham-based Somali gang jailed for 60 years for rape and torture of woman

Agreed

Not saying it doesn’t happen here

I did a 6-month tour in Somalia from Dec 92 to May 93. It was a hellhole then and it is a hellhole now. It was completely run by different gang factions then and it is still the same today with ISIS coming in. No good ever came out of this country. I wouldn’t trust one of these people as far as I could throw them. Keep them out of the US.

Thank you for your service. I can’t imagine how awful Somali must be.

I can’t remember who or what talk show, but a radio host had a guest who put out the idea that any muslim who is arrested for any bad deed, immediately has his/her family deported.

This is a great idea; I see no down side to it. Cut all the cancer out and be done with it.

Evidently importing all of those heathens is not working out to well for Eurabia

“The taxpayers get to pay to house and feed them for decades to come. Culturally enriched! “

I read an article probably ten years ago which stated the cost of an average Florida state prisoner was $30,000 per year. I suspect that was the direct cost. Indirect costs would include the amortized value of the building and the apportioned long term cost of employee health and retirement benefits. At some point we need to address the costs of keeping people in prison who are simply too dangerous to let go.

There are a number of aspects to preventing crime. One of them, a huge one at that, is fatherless wards of the state who are raised as feral human-shaped psychopaths who will kill you just because they think you looked at them wrong. That would be an easy one. End the financial incentive to produce them.

Years ago a buddy of mine stationed in a graffiti covered section of New York walked over to the union run shipping facility and asked a driver why there wasn’t a speck of graffiti on their building or trucks. The driver said, “’Cause we don’t allow it.” We simply allow crimes. In Tampa the mayor forbade the police from chasing suspects. The number of carjacking’s skyrocketed. It became a teenage right of passage. Until they changed the policy and then carjacking’s dropped to almost nothing. They went from allowing it to disallowing it and that worked.

Another thing we might consider is corporal punishment. Years ago Singapore sentenced a foreign kid to the lash. It created a worldwide furor but they held firm and did it. The very liberal news commentator who had railed against it said afterwards, “Well, I bet he never does that again.” Face palm! That was the point!

Politicians aren’t doing any of these things because it is much easier to make the taxpayer pay so they don’t have to make any controversial decisions.

Diversity!

Heck, in the US we are much much more (cough) tolerant and (gag) compassionate. Somalis have their own policeman's association.

Buck-toothed Somalis organized to divide and conquer.

Somali Police Association. Lookit the smirking police lady w/ the Muslim thingy on her head.

Lying in wait to slaughter Americans.

that Somali moslem who murdered Justine Damand has still not been arrested ...

You’re thinking of the Tony Martin case. Tony Martin, 54 at the time, was a Norfolk farmer. Confronted by three burglars one night in 1999, he shot and killed one (Fred Barras, 16, on bail at the time; 29 convictions, including theft and assault, going back to when he was 13), shot and wounded a second (Brendon Fearon, 30, with 33 convictions, including assault), while a third got away (Darren Bark, 34, 52 convictions, five for assault).

Initially convicted of murder, he successfully appealed for its reduction to manslaughter, and his mandatory life imprisonment was reduced to five years. Notoriously, he was kept in prison longer than the burglar that he had shot and wounded (Fearon being released August 2001 while Martin was not released until 2003).

Timeline: The Tony Martin case: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfolk/3087003.stm Anthony Edward Martin v R. Appeal Judgement: http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Crim/2001/2245.html

Here’s another one. Munir Hussain, along with his wife and family, were held at knifepoint by raiders in their home. They managed to turn the tables, and one of the raiders was chased down by Munir and his near-neighbour and brother, Tokeer, and they gave him a good beating. Munir was then sentenced to 30 months and Tokeer to 39 months; the raider was given a non-custodial supervision order. (Interesting in that being top or near top of the ‘Progressive Stack’ didn’t save Munir—might have gone better for him if the raiders had been white.)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1237632/New-let-brain-damaged-burglar-got-decent-man-sent-jail.html

Are you familiar with the late Sam Francis?

What we have in this country today, then, is both anarchy (the failure of the state to enforce the laws) and, at the same time, tyranny—the enforcement of laws by the state for oppressive purposes; the criminalization of the law-abiding and innocent through exorbitant taxation, bureaucratic regulation, the invasion of privacy, and the engineering of social institutions, such as the family and local schools; the imposition of thought control through “sensitivity training” and multiculturalist curricula, “hate crime” laws, gun-control laws that punish or disarm otherwise law-abiding citizens but have no impact on violent criminals who get guns illegally, and a vast labyrinth of other measures. In a word, anarcho-tyranny.

Francis, Samuel. “Synthesizing Tyranny.” Chronicles. Apr. 2005. Available from the Internet Archive at: http://web.archive.org/web/20061103022139/http:/www.chroniclesmagazine.org/Chronicles/2005/April2005/0405Francis.html

Many, many stories like this one in the Daily Mail. When comments are allowed, one of the most common is “bring back the death penalty.” Of course, the elites will never allow that. But the people are thoroughly pi$$ed off by the state of things.

Yes, that was the one. I’m glad to know that he killed one of them since he was going to do time anyway.

Sam Francis-I’m vaguely aware of him, but know that I need to become more familiar. I’ve read the particular lines you quoted, and he’s right-TPTB in this country, and in every western country, are passing more and more laws and regulations so that citizens can’t avoid being criminals even if they try. That’s the state’s power over us, and it’s global-each country comes at it from their particular circumstances, but it’s headed towards the point of global convergence. Slavery? the world hasn’t seen nor can it imagine the global slavery of every human having their every waking breath tracked by a global system of control. Every human transaction, even thought, being subject to the power of the state. The left is leading us there, but even they don’t know just what they’re doing-if they’re human, they’re going to be subject to this tyranny just like the rest of us. Lord come quickly!

Canadian Davis Aurini of the Stares at the World site pithily wrote (works as a complement to Sam Francis’s concept):

[T]he West is no longer a free society. It’s an open-air prison—an internment camp—where the only behaviour that’s valued is compliance. Criminals are allowed to run rampant within, so long as they submit to the guards. Fights between the inmates are the inmates’ problem.

Aurini, Davis M.J. “Corporations, United Airlines, and the Open-Air Prison Planet.” Stares at the World. 12 Apr. 2017. Online: http://www.staresattheworld.com/2017/04/corporations-united-airlines-open-air-prison-planet/

As you say, the Left will be subject to the same tyranny they’re creating for the rest of us. Presumably most fantasise they’ll be running the gulags—if they were less ignorant (they wouldn’t be SJWs), they might know how many Party Faithful ended up in Uncle Joe’s prison cells awaiting a firing squad (Nikolai Bukharin’s grovelling letters to Stalin pleading for his life are pathetic). Onkel Adi was just as ready to throw his own under the bus when convenient—the Night of the Long Knives saw some SA, such as Karl Ernst, thinking it a counter-revolution and cried ‘Heil Hitler’ as they died.

One more example of the modern British legal system at work:
In the early hours of Saturday, May 7, 2005, Mary-Ann Leneghan, 16, and an unnamed friend, 18, were raped and tortured over about 3 hours by six men (five with previous convictions, four on probation at time); Mary-Ann was then stabbed to death and her friend shot in the head (still has bullet fragments in her skull). Shortly after 5AM, the seriously wounded survivor staggered out of the park, and a passer-by came to her aid and called emergency services.

Mere hours after our emergency services became involved, the first arrests were being made.
South London addresses were being searched and a fourth man arrested on Monday.
More arrests on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, and on Friday it is reported that ‘Twelve people have now been arrested in the case to find the killers of Mary-Ann …’
The next day—only 7 days after the murder—the ringleader appears before court charged with murder and other related offences. On May 19—12 days after the murder—it is reported that seven men are charged in relation to the murder.

That is solid police work and shows our police can do their job when they’re motivated to do so (as Sam Francis argued).

On November 7, 184 days after the murder and first arrests, seven men appear at the Old Bailey to enter their pleas, and a trial date scheduled for January 2006.
The trial begins on January 12, 2006; there is an interruption 4 days later and a new jury impanelled.
Finally, on March 17, five are found guilty and on March 20, the sixth is also found guilty. Except not ‘finally’ as sentences are deferred for whatever reason (usually ‘background reports’).
Finally, on April 28—356 days after the murder—the six men are sentenced to mandatory life imprisonment, with minimum tariffs (the period before they can be considered for parole) of 27 years for four of them and 23 years for two.

(The six men who killed Mary-Ann: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4778704.stm )

By way of comparison, on May 11, 1928, one Albert George Absalom fatally wounded his fiancée Mary Reed in the street; arrested by passers-by, he was frogmarched to the nearest police station. He was on trial by July, contesting the charge; and after conviction, was hanged on July 25. From fatal attack to lawful execution: 75 days.