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U.S. Manufacturers ĎAlarmedí by Trumpís Push for Natural Gas Exports
gCaptain ^ | August 17, 2017 | Ari Natter

Posted on 08/18/2017 8:59:07 PM PDT by artichokegrower

President Donald Trump’s effort to boost U.S. energy is facing push back from manufacturers who say exporting more natural gas may undercut his “America First” jobs focus.

The Industrial Energy Consumers of America asked the administration Wednesday for a moratorium on U.S. approvals for liquefied natural gas projects. The trade association, which represents U.S. manufacturers that depend on cheap energy to fuel their factories, sent a letter to Energy Secretary Rick Perry Wednesday.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: americafirst; doe; exports; manufacturing; naturalgas; third100days; trumpenergy
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The chief executives of both companies, Andrew Liveris for Dow and Wendell Weeks for Corning, are members of the president’s manufacturing council. Trump said he would disband that council Wednesday after a number of members quit in the wake of his comments about white supremacists who marched in Charlottesville, Virginia.


You billionaire industrialists sure showed Trump a thing or two by making big publicity in bailing out of the president's economic councils. Go talk to Antifa and see if they give you any sympathy.

1 posted on 08/18/2017 8:59:07 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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There is a glut of gas already, plus a lot in the ground that hasn't been touched. I doubt shipping the gas will affect the cost much.
2 posted on 08/18/2017 9:22:49 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason (The U.S. Senate - where American freedom goes to die.)
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What happened to the many LNG projects that were predicted?

Any E&C companies hiring process design engineers?


3 posted on 08/18/2017 9:28:01 PM PDT by 353FMG
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All the LNG terminals and ships that could conceivably be built wouldn’t make a 1/4 of 1% difference in the amount of available natural gas. This is a complete nothing.


4 posted on 08/18/2017 9:38:42 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them!)
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Well, boo freekin’ hoo.

It is not the job of the US government to guarantee below market rate energy to businesses.

We are kicking the Russian’s and Saudi’s teeth in with these LNG projects. This is a very good thing.

Call me a cynic, but I suspect Russian influence behind this request. We are freeing the Baltic states and Eastern Europe from the tyranny of the Russian’s energy monopoly. We should have done this a long, long time ago.


5 posted on 08/18/2017 9:43:58 PM PDT by Haiku Guy (eliminate perverse incentives)
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In a quaint time long passed, the market took care of such matters.


6 posted on 08/18/2017 10:07:10 PM PDT by FirstFlaBn
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

DITTO!


7 posted on 08/18/2017 10:23:26 PM PDT by Dapper 26
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To: artichokegrower

Sorry, we are free to sell gas all over the world


8 posted on 08/18/2017 10:23:39 PM PDT by Titus-Maximus (It doesn't matter who votes for whom, it only matters who counts the votes - Joe Stalin)
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For those companies who may be too comfortable with crony capitalism, it’s weening off time. It is time to use American ingenuity, hard work, imagination and a can-do attitude. American industry will have to DESERVE the American consumer. Quit belly aching.......get it done.


9 posted on 08/18/2017 10:27:24 PM PDT by Dapper 26
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What happened to the many LNG projects that were predicted?

In fact, the tremendous increase in natural gas supply has actually revived America’s plastics industry, since natural gas is a perfect base material to make plastics.

Low energy cost and abundant supplies of oil and gas

Feedstock for various petrochemicals, agrochemicals industries.

The USA will end up owning big chunks of these industries The U.S. is expected to see a wave of petrochemical plant openings between now and next year. Those plants represent about $50 billion of $160 billion in manufacturing investment earmarked by the industry since 2012, according to James Fitterling, president and COO of Dow Chemical. Among them are several big ethylene plants, including one expected to be opened by Dow in Freeport, Texas, in the second quarter.

"It's about 1.5 million tons of new capacity for us. It will be up in the second quarter sometime," said Fitterling, speaking in Houston at the CERAWeek conference, sponsored by IHS Markit. He said Dow also opened a billion-dollar propane dehydrogenation plant in Freeport at the end of 2015. "That was the first megaproject we've done on the Gulf Coast for quite some time."

Exxon Mobil this week announced a $20 billion spending program to expand its manufacturing capacity along the Gulf Coast, including some previously announced investment. The announcement came at CERAWeek.

Industry executives say this is the first big wave of chemical plant construction in decades.

President Donald J. Trump tweeted congratulations on Exxon's investment and promise of jobs. But the petrochemical renaissance has been building for several years. Trump's policy may unleash more if it results in the creation of pipelines and other infrastructure.

"The U.S. has gone from a shale gas boom to a petrochemical boom," said Scott Sheffield, CEO of Pioneer Natural Resources. While natural gas industry experts discussed the outlook for a long period of low gas prices at the conference, the petrochemical industry described what only can be viewed as a boom in an industry that had been declining in the United States.

Fitterling said there was a wave of plants that started construction back in the 2012 time frame, and between 2017 and 2018, there will be approximately $50 billion of that total $160 billion of capacity up and running. "These are all downstream petrochemical plants, including ethylene facilities, propylene facilities and all the downstream products associated with them. Another wave of plants — some that started and some that were a little bit delayed and slid out to the 2019 time frame — represent another $12 billion," Fitterling said. There are more than 20 big projects and other smaller ones, all which should be completed by 2023.

Another wave of new capacity is likely to be planned after that, Fitterling said. There are estimates that the current planned investment could generate 70,000 to 80,000 direct jobs.

Just a little bit of the President Donald J. Trump leadership in MAGA.

10 posted on 08/18/2017 10:33:42 PM PDT by spokeshave (The Fake Media tried to stop us from going to the White House, I am President and they are not. DJT)
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To: artichokegrower

How is us exporting undercutting jobs? Between their support of export taxes through income tax and illegal immigrants and now this, I am starting to think the corporations want more corporate welfare and prevent
domestic production from interfering with import international businesses helping China

Chamber of
commerce behind this?


11 posted on 08/18/2017 11:05:20 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucifiedc)
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If we had not lost some much of our manufacturing to China, then maybe we would not need to sell natural gas overseas. Gee who moved their production to China? Who could be responsable?


12 posted on 08/18/2017 11:06:29 PM PDT by Lockbox
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Are those domestic manufacturer customers of petrochemicals going to pass along the cost savings to their customers, like the buyers of tires?


13 posted on 08/18/2017 11:09:30 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: artichokegrower

Interesting position. Was it because of Trump’s energy policy being opposed because it abandons exclusive protectionism that Trump felt it was necessary to shut down those councils ?


14 posted on 08/19/2017 1:03:58 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (Mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslin)
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To: 353FMG

I’m actually building the first of it’s kind liquid natural gas production facility... for export, here in Cove Point, Maryland.

Been on the project for over a year and a half now.

They’ve already started building another LNG production facility in Pittsburgh, PA and Oregon is getting ready to break ground on an LNG production and export facility.


15 posted on 08/19/2017 1:26:56 AM PDT by bayliving
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To: artichokegrower

This is nothing but Fake News. Any organization asking the government to interfere in free enterprise does not represent the way this nation was founded and does not deserve my support.


16 posted on 08/19/2017 4:34:27 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The stone age didn't end because we ran out of stones.)
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To: clearcarbon

What percentage of tires sold in the US are made overseas?


17 posted on 08/19/2017 5:07:17 AM PDT by meatloaf
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To: artichokegrower
An interesting sidebar to this is something I never even gave a thought about - if government ran this, they wouldn't have made the innovations to the ships :

(Bloomberg) Modern LNG Carriers Earning More Taking the Scenic Route

18 posted on 08/19/2017 6:55:46 AM PDT by Oatka
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To: Oatka

Thanks for posting link.


19 posted on 08/19/2017 7:41:47 AM PDT by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: meatloaf

https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/tires/where-are-tires-made


20 posted on 08/19/2017 8:28:14 AM PDT by Ozark Tom
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