Posted on 08/17/2017 12:36:49 PM PDT by Trump20162020
Gettysburg was the terrible scene of a historic tragedy. The many actors in that tragedy are portrayed throughout that large stage in appropriate historical context. This is different from putting one figure in a public park and putting all the emphasis on that person for better or for worse.
I don’t think anyone has tried to say that the Revolution was fought about tea. It was fought about having to pay duties and buy stamps on everything that was imported into the Colonies including tea, the fact that only British ships had rights to do the importing, that the Colonies were not allowed to produce many things, and we had no representation in the British parliament. “Taxation without representation,” remember. Kind of like the people in Puerto Rico and Washington, DC.
What do you have against the 17th Amendment. That gives power to the states. Relevant parts below.
AMENDMENT XVII
Passed by Congress May 13, 1912. Ratified April 8, 1913.
Note: Article I, section 3, of the Constitution was modified by the 17th amendment.
The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, elected by the people thereof, for six years; and each Senator shall have one vote. The electors in each State shall have the qualifications requisite for electors of the most numerous branch of the State legislatures.
When vacancies happen in the representation of any State in the Senate, the executive authority of such State shall issue writs of election to fill such vacancies: Provided, That the legislature of any State may empower the executive thereof to make temporary appointments until the people fill the vacancies by election as the legislature may direct.
CNN has provided a map. http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/08/17/hit-list-cnn-publishes-map-confederate-monuments-u-s/
my wife and I stayed in a Gettysburg B&B last year. the attic,of the house, is known to have been a snipers nest during the early part of the battle.
Several times during the 1st night we heard, what sounded like footsteps coming from the attic.
no one was supposed to be up there, not at 2 am anyway,
very strange.
I’m still trying to get the Christian thing more together myself.
I’ll pass on seeing ghosts.
Haunted History was a good series.
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I am fortunate enough to have ancestors who fought on both sides of that battle. My Northern ancestors were with the 124th New York Volunteer Infantry, the “Orange Blossoms” and they defended Houck’s Ridge and the Triangular field leading to Devil’s Den. My Southern ancestors fought with the 11th Mississippi Infantry, Company C, the “Prairie Rifles”. Those men went forward on the third day with Pickett. It’s insane that in the current climate, only the Union side be honored. Deo Vindice!
Funny how there was no unrest with Obama in the WH, but once trump wins suddenly they become a issue.
The 17th amendment was a huge mistake. It transformed the concept of federalism.
But the states approved this monstrosity. This illustrates my contention that the states could not wait to surrender as much power as they could to the fedgov.
Please explain to me where in my posting of the language of Amendment 17 there is any surrendering of state power? It looks to me as if it is all about how the states elect or replace Senators if one is gone.
It became an issue under Trump because the Nazis and KKKers felt safe to come out and demonstrate, therefore calling more of the general attention to this issue. Of course, murder by auto really got the national attention and not in a good way.
It was. The Gettysburg ones were the most believable and tragic. I could not watch before bed.
The Constitution was created and ratified to pursue the goal of federalism. This meant that the State legislature selection of Senators was presumed to look out for the interests of STATES as states. It was considered to be the equivalent of the House of Lords in Parliament and to have a long-term view of politics. Part of this was to emphasize the REPRESENTATIVE nature of federalism and a check on overly democratic influences on the government.
A senator selected by a legislature would/should have the interests of the state in mind, not being reliant on popular support which does not have the interest of the state as a state in mind.
By having the senators elected directly by the people they became merely longer serving Representatives. It EXPLICITLY reduced the power of states as states and was ratified by the states presumably with that knowledge.
This meant that the states that voted to ratify the 17th did so with the knowledge that it curbed state power as the Constitution as a whole was designed to do. There are many other instances of the states readily giving up their sovereignty.
Thanks for the clarification. I’ll have to take a look at Article I, section 3, of the Constitution which was modified by the 17th amendment, and see the difference.
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