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Scuffle between Indian and Chinese troops in Ladakh as two incursion bids by PLA foiled
The Times of India ^ | Tuesday, August 15, 2017 | Rajat Pandit, TNN

Posted on 08/15/2017 10:18:50 PM PDT by Jyotishi

Highlights

o PLA soldiers tried to enter the Indian side in two areas -- Finger Four and Finger Five -- twice on Tuesday morning

o Personnel from both sides received some injuries in stone-pelting

o The rival troops pulled back from the confrontation site after banner drills to defuse the situation

NEW DELHI: A major scuffle, which included stone-pelting, took place between Indian and Chinese soldiers along the Line of Actual Control at eastern Ladakh in the western sector on Tuesday even as the tense troop stand-off in Doklam area in the eastern sector remains locked in a stalemate.

Sources said the confrontation between the rival soldiers took place on the north bank of the Pangong Tso (Tso means lake) in eastern Ladakh, two-thirds of which is controlled by China as it extends from Tibet to India, early on Tuesday morning.

"There was a scuffle between the two sides, which included some stone-pelting as well, after Indian soldiers blocked two attempts by People's Liberation Army troops to enter Indian territory at the Finger-4 and Finger-5 areas early in the morning," said a source.

"Personnel from both sides received some injuries in the stone-pelting. The rival troops later pulled back from the confrontation site after banner drills to defuse the situation," he added.

But the Army, on being contacted, refused to say anything once again. The PLA soldiers continue to needle Indian forces in all the three sectors of the 4,057-km LAC --western (Ladakh), middle (Uttarakhand, Himachal) and eastern (Sikkim, Arunachal Pradesh) -- in the backdrop of both sides having militarily reinforced their positions due to the Dokalm standoff near the Sikkim-Bhutan-Tibet tri-junction, as reported by TOI earlier.

Late last month, 10-15 PLA soldiers had "transgressed" almost one km into a disputed pocket -- a mutually agreed "demilitarized zone" -- at Barahoti in the Chamoli district of Uttarakhand two times in quick succession.

Eastern Ladakh, in particular, has emerged as a major flashpoint between the two armies, especially in the areas of Chumarr, Depsang and Pangong Tso, over the last several years. Located at an altitude of 13,900-feet across the Changla Pass, Pangong Tso is a 134-km long brackish lake in which both armies have also deployed armed boats against each other. There are boat, motorised and foot-patrol transgressions on a regular basis in the area. The region became an even bigger flashpoint when, during the 1999 Kargil conflict with Pakistan, China even constructed a "track" right up to the lake's southern bank.

"Transgressions occur due to differing perceptions between India and China about where the LAC actually lies, right from eastern Ladakh to Arunachal Pradesh. Around 300 such transgressions by the PLA are recorded every year," said a source.

On the eastern front, China remains adamant about Indian troops unilaterally withdrawing from the ongoing face-off in the Doklam area, which is actually Bhutanese territory but coveted by China. The Doklam imbroglio, of course, is different from the usual transgressions across the LAC since it is located in a third country (Bhutan), and India has reinforced its military posture near the tri-junction in the face of escalating rhetoric from China.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: arunachal; bhutan; china; doklan; india; ladakh; pakistan; pla

1 posted on 08/15/2017 10:18:50 PM PDT by Jyotishi
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To: Jyotishi

Good so far. Of course they’re literally only at the point of throwing stones. We’ll see what happens once the lead begins to fly. Hope the Indians are prepped for that.


2 posted on 08/15/2017 10:22:18 PM PDT by House Atreides (Send BOTH Hillary & Bill to prison.)
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To: Jyotishi

the PLA needs to change their name. We’ve already got the PLO to worry about, and it’s too confusing to track vowels. I don’t think it’s taken yet, so how about JERKS. India vs JERKS. Works for me. Go India.


3 posted on 08/15/2017 10:28:29 PM PDT by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: Jyotishi

In a dustup between India and China I’m behind India.

Remember when the leader of India was hugging Trump and acting like he was the messiah!?

China has met its match in India, China is more advanced in many ways than India but India can take out Beijing with a nuke so in the end it’s a stalemate.

Pakistan, as always, is a wild card.


4 posted on 08/15/2017 10:31:51 PM PDT by Bobalu (Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses, yearning to be freeloaders.)
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To: Jyotishi

A most risky situation. I think this is the big danger for military conflict, rather than North Korea.


5 posted on 08/15/2017 10:35:37 PM PDT by BlackVeil ('The past is never dead. It's not even past.' William Faulkner)
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To: Bobalu

“Pakistan, as always, is a wild card.”

CHINA PLANNING TO ATTACK INDIA WITH PAK HELP, CLAIMS MULAYAM

PTI, The Pioneer, Wednesday, August 16, 2017

Etawah — The country faces the “biggest” threat from China, former defence minister Mulayam Singh Yadav on Tuesday said, claiming that it is plotting to attack India in collaboration with Pakistan.

“There are a number of threats before the country but the biggest threat is from China... It is continuously encroaching on our land and is planning to attack but is not able to advance because of our army,” he said at a function here. . . .

Excerpt from:
http://www.dailypioneer.com/nation/china-planning-to-attack-india-with-pak-help-claims-mulayam.html


6 posted on 08/15/2017 10:57:43 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Jyotishi

Nuclear powers throwing stones at each other. The world is going mad.


7 posted on 08/15/2017 11:08:17 PM PDT by montag813 (ue)
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To: Jyotishi

Let them kill off each other. Good distraction for China, good for US economy if both India and China are disrupted. Move some of those businesses back to the US, send home Indians from H1B and L1 visa programs so they can serve in their military, return those jobs to Americans.


8 posted on 08/15/2017 11:08:51 PM PDT by Reno89519 (Drain the Swamp is not party specific. Lyn' Ted is still a liar, Good riddance to him.)
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To: Bobalu
In a dustup between India and China I’m behind India. Remember when the leader of India was hugging Trump and acting like he was the messiah!?

India also has developed a strong alliance with Israel, buying modified fighter jets and conducting training exercises.

9 posted on 08/15/2017 11:09:20 PM PDT by montag813 (ue)
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To: Jyotishi

Communism is not static; it has to expand to survive. If I’m not mistaken, this is the region the Dalai Lama escaped to after leaving Tibet (which sadly no longer is shown on maps). The communists still see him as a threat...


10 posted on 08/15/2017 11:47:14 PM PDT by SueRae (An administration like no other.)
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To: Reno89519

India has about 1 million soldiers already — they don’t need those H1B engineers to become soldiers.


11 posted on 08/16/2017 12:40:13 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Jyotishi

The two rudest groups of people I have ever met. I hope they both lose.


12 posted on 08/16/2017 12:53:22 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: Jyotishi

Oh look...China and India are fixing for another dust up.


13 posted on 08/16/2017 2:46:58 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Jyotishi

LET’S GET READY to RUMBLE!!!


14 posted on 08/16/2017 2:54:22 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (President Trump makes obammy look like the punk he is.)
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To: Reno89519

I’m all in favor of bringing jobs back to America, but I’m not hoping for a war where millions die to get it.


15 posted on 08/16/2017 3:35:37 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Prayers for our country and President Trump)
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To: montag813
Nuclear powers throwing stones at each other.

"I don't know what weapons will be used in the next World War, but the war after that will be fought with sticks and stones." ~ Einstein paraphrase I think. I'm too lazy to look it up.

16 posted on 08/16/2017 3:50:31 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (In God We Trust, In Trump We Fix America)
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To: montag813

surely there must be some video or pics of this pelting that occurred .. .


17 posted on 08/16/2017 6:08:06 AM PDT by ▀udda▀udd (>> M A G A << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: Jyotishi
Rock-pelting incursion?

THIS is an "incursion":


18 posted on 08/16/2017 6:14:36 AM PDT by PLMerite ("Government should be done to cattle and not human beings." - John Milius)
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To: Jyotishi; TBP

Pinging TBP for his expert Paki & Taliban-loving ChiCom points of view. Heck, his current boss (Aulakh) even got a award from the Pakis as a reward.


19 posted on 08/16/2017 11:56:40 PM PDT by indcons (Drain the swamp - ban "Council of Khalistan")
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