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Flake extends his attacks on Trump and the GOP all the way back to the dawn of birtherism
WaPo ^ | August 6, 2017 | Avi Selk

Posted on 08/07/2017 10:18:39 AM PDT by Seizethecarp

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To: Conservative Gato

Well like you I’m very thankful to have Trump in office. Unfortunately Sessions and Rosenstein have done what they could to kneecap him. If anyone ever needed proof of a swamp, Mueller is that proof.


61 posted on 08/07/2017 1:40:12 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

I’m trying to have patience with Sessions but it’s wearing thin. I understand the swamp is wide and deep so I’m trying to be patient on getting the swamp cleaned up. I just hope Sessions is just not wasting all of our time. His past character says he is not like that but I guess we’ll see.

I’m just glad President Trump is not the type of person to keep unproductive people in his administration for very long so we should know something in the short run.

CGato


62 posted on 08/07/2017 1:50:35 PM PDT by Conservative Gato (There are NOW 4 kind of LIES; Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and the Media.)
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To: Conservative Gato

Sessions enjoys a stellar reputation but he did lie on his security clearance application. That’s what precipitated the Mueller disaster/boondoggle.

Unfortunately Trump is stuck with Sessions. The Senate GOP excuse for preventing recess appointments was specifically to safeguard Sessions. The Permanent Political Class has decided they like Sessions as AG, and they have circled the wagons.

I hope Sessions comes through in this job. But being a senator for decades is poor training. A senator believes his/her job is talking. Of course they vote, but it’s really up to McConnell to get the outcome the swamp wants.

Trump needed a pitbull of action in that job...and he got a talkative senator instead.


63 posted on 08/07/2017 2:00:21 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Defiant

Agreed. We could organize it here, state by state. Can’t be caught unaware.


64 posted on 08/07/2017 2:24:51 PM PDT by Az Joe (Gloria in excelsis Deo)
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To: pharmacopeia

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Principles?

Pedophilia is principles?
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65 posted on 08/07/2017 2:48:19 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Yes, of course. I believe that Sen. Flake is a pedophile and that preying on children is one of the principles he was standing by. WTF?


66 posted on 08/07/2017 9:39:25 PM PDT by pharmacopeia (All will be well and all will be well and every kind of thing shall be well. (Julian of Norwich))
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To: butterdezillion

So is the engine running normally on this Cessna 208 just before it crash landed?

https://youtu.be/0ppi93kE6vQ

Here is the NTSB preliminary report.

https://app.ntsb.gov/pdfgenerator/ReportGeneratorFile.ashx?EventID=20160513X05838&AKey=1&RType=Prelim&IType=LA

“The pilot reported that following takeoff from runway 26, he made a right turn and continued his climb for the skydive drop, however, while passing through 1,000 feet above ground level (agl), the engine lost power.”

Sound familiar?

So do you still insist that Rosa and Puentes were standing on solid ground?

Did you ever get the deck log for the USS La Jolla?


67 posted on 08/08/2017 9:24:10 AM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan

As usual, nothing you have said even addresses what I said. Go talk to yourself.


68 posted on 08/08/2017 9:30:40 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Seizethecarp

“WaPo reporter failed to do minimum journalistic investigation that would reveal that a top EU lab and a top HI document examiner declared White House BC a forgery.”

All he could report is that Zullo says two experts claim something. Could he cite from their reports? Could he talk to the two experts?

If the WaPo reporter goes to Hayes website, he would see this,

“In short, there are indications that the Obama Certificate of Live Birth released by the White House in April 2011 may be a manufactured document or perhaps even an outright forgery. But without examining the original document housed at the Hawaii Department of Health, there can be no absolute certainty.”

“[M]ay be” and “perhaps” are not exactly unequivocal statements that the birth certificate is a forgery.

Bonus question: in October, 2013, Sheriff Arpaio said Donald Trump was a double agent. What did he mean by that?


69 posted on 08/08/2017 9:35:10 AM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: Seizethecarp
With all these renewed attacks on "birthers" I suspect that finally, some of the vast evidence that's certainly buried deep in the musty archives of the Deep State vaults is starting to be discovered by some of Trump's people.

There had to be a lot of people and documents involved in keeping Barry's little secret a secret... and sooner or later its going to bubble to the surface. I guess the left wants to be ready and shout down anyone who mentions it with the "BIRTHER!!!!" refrain.

70 posted on 08/08/2017 9:46:39 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: 4Zoltan

Have you figured out why, after no reported sightings for ~10 months, Stanley Ann suddenly popped up in Seattle? No Obot has offered a *plausible* explanation yet.


71 posted on 08/08/2017 1:23:46 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: 4Zoltan

Have you figured out why, after no reported sightings for ~10 months, Stanley Ann suddenly popped up in Seattle? No Obot has offered a *plausible* explanation yet.


72 posted on 08/08/2017 1:23:51 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: 4Zoltan

Have you figured out why, after no reported sightings for ~10 months, Stanley Ann suddenly popped up in Seattle? No Obot has offered a *plausible* explanation yet.


73 posted on 08/08/2017 1:23:52 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: butterdezillion

Address what? Your ridiculous claim that Dr. Onaka refused to certify the letter of verification? Where is your proof of that claim?

So if not the seal of the Department of Health, what seal should have been on the letters of verification?

What seal appears on Hawaiian birth certificates and why isn’t the Director’s signature on those certificates?

Should I have addressed your silly claim that they ditched a plane with a perfectly good engine?

I did when I showed you a similar plane with the same type engine crash landing with “engine” noise louder than in the Puentes video.

The fact is every one of your claims has been shown to be nonsense.


74 posted on 08/08/2017 3:35:00 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: Fantasywriter

Reported sightings? Hahaha

Who was keeping track of an eighteen year old pregnant nobody fifty years ago?

Of course there is the University of Hawaii’s Foreign Student advisor, Mrs. MaCabe’s April 10, 1961 phone call stating Obama Sr. married Stanley Ann Dunham, a United States citizen from Seattle, Washington, on February 2nd, 1961 on Maui.


75 posted on 08/08/2017 4:06:45 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan

Yes, SIGHTINGS. People saw and remember Stanley Ann from high school—people still alive today. People saw and remember SA from her first two semesters at the UoH—people still alive today.

But next comes a protracted black hole. You point to a wedding with no witnesses. Obama himself (via Bill Ayers) notes in Dreams that the ‘wedding,’ was a verboten topic. Something was wrong with it, but he didn’t want to open that can of worms. As a result, it was simply never mentioned.

Apart from your non-witness citation, NO ONE actually saw SA in HI. She’s not at her parents’ house. There’s no other address for her. She’s MIA.

The next actual sighting is in Seattle. Here real people, alive today, saw and remember her. No one has a clue (no Obot, anyway) as to how she got there; she just magically appears.

Had she been in HI for her pregnancy someone would remember her. Your mindless Obot claim satisfies only your fellow Obots. To augment your lack of evidence you adopt an infantile attitude about the issue. I.e.: the fact that people remember SA from every other period of her life, for you, just makes the black hole more believable. Being pregnant made SA less memorable than even when she was in high school. It’s complete irrationality, of course, but it’s all you have.


76 posted on 08/08/2017 4:28:29 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

What report of sightings for the time period June 1960 to September 1960?


77 posted on 08/08/2017 5:12:41 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan

Your comments have caused me to think afresh about that ‘wedding.’ There has to be a reason that Michelle Obama said Stanley Ann was, “very young and very single,” when she had Little Barry. MO wouldn’t have referred to Obama’s mother as “very single,” if she were married. Michelle knows more about that situation than you or I do, and she denies the wedding.

Then there’s the language used in Dreams. It’s a very weird description. The only rational reason for Ayers to put in such strange, iffy comments about the purported wedding is that it didn’t happen, and he was guarding against the discovery of that fact. Otherwise, just state that it was a simple civil ceremony. If in fact it was, then that’s the way to describe it. But to have Obama engage in a long winded hem and haw about a “bill of particulars,” that he wanted no part of—that’s cover for something hinky.

Indeed Obama Sr must have reported a wedding to the university. He may have mentioned it elsewhere. But when it comes to facts, I’m with Michelle on this one. SA was very young and very single when she had Little Barry.


78 posted on 08/08/2017 5:16:55 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

The 1964 divorce papers lists her marriage as February, 1961 on Maui. Man that’s an old conspiracy.

Single mother as it is used today often means raising the child without input from the father (married or not).

Where did she spend Thanksgiving and Christmas in 1961. Another black hole?

Can you list all the people who were specifically asked “did you see her between November 1960 and August, 1961” and responded no?


79 posted on 08/08/2017 6:24:10 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan

Where was SA in June of 1960?

Where was she in Sept 1960?

Perhaps in between June and September SA pulled a disappearing act and had a baby. Maybe Little Barry isn’t her first after all! Although, if she had a baby in Aug 1960, it would be pushing it to have another in July of ‘61 (Obama having identified the third week in July as his actual birth date).

Plus, there’s the fact that no one noticed she was pregnant when she graduated high school. If she ‘dissappeared,’ to deliver in July or Aug of ‘60, surely she’d have been showing in June.

Your dumb strawmen waste so much time. Let me know if you can find another ~10 month black hole in SA’s life that corresponds to a purported pregnancy. Meanwhile, enough of your stupid non-issues. They prove nothing except that you have a gift for missing the point.


80 posted on 08/08/2017 6:32:08 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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